NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10^th, 2021 at 7:58pm:


The world has a lot to learn from the version of sweeden, their response and how it worked out in Scoot head, not the reality of what actually happened.

There was a time before the consequences of their poor decisions came to fruition that the claim could have been made in reality, that it's that snapshot in time that scoot is holding onto.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 2:52pm:


And the reason why it has been ignored for so long is due to apathy and everyone being told and believing "Oh, its the flu. We get that every year. Can't do anything about it. Sorry".

Which suited governments, big business and airlines, etc. perfectly because they didn't have to do anything about it which might have (heaven forbid) cost them money and eaten into the obscene amounts of money they make.

But now COVID-19 and all the travel restrictions and quarantine, etc. that have happened as a result of it has proved that something can be done (and should have been done) about the spread of the flu worldwide every year with the hundreds of thousands of deaths that it causes and hopefully the general population won't go back into their usual slumber and forget about all this once the Covid pandemic is over and demand that more be done to prevent the worldwide spread of the flu from now on.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 3:33pm:


I agree, Bobby.

But, the flu always comes to Australia from overseas every year. Usually from travellers coming from the northern hemisphere winter. Then we 'return the favour' by sending it back to them (plus any new variants, of course) for the start of their winter season.

Same way that Covid has been/still is arriving here.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 3:52pm:


Oh, yes.

I've seen men coming out of cubicles after taking a 'dump' (and many usually don't bother flushing) or they've finished peeing at the urinal in shopping centre toilets and they walk straight out without even washing their hands.

Good reasons to believe COVID cases may not skyrocket as NSW opens up


Professor Catherine Bennett is chair of epidemiology at Deakin University. She is a leading researcher and teacher in public health.

NSW has begun the process of opening up in earnest. Former premier Gladys Berejiklian warned the state could expect cases to “go through the roof” once it reached this stage. But NSW may well avoid a calamitous rise in infections, with quite a few things working in its favour already.

First, there has already been some progressive easing out of restrictions throughout September, according to the mobility data. This is not unexpected after a long lockdown, and we are seeing the same pattern in Victoria and the ACT. The mobility reports linked to retail and recreation show NSW achieved a nearly 50 per cent reduction in mobility in August compared with pre-pandemic, but this eased back to just over 35 per cent by the first week of October.


This anticipation of rule changes and increased movement actually makes the 70 per cent easing of rules a somewhat smaller step in epidemiological terms than it might otherwise have been. While the range of retail, services and hospitality businesses now opening up were excluded then, the increased mobility may reflect a greater degree of engagement in other unallowed activities including home visiting which is, in many ways, more risky than managed indoor encounters in work, retail or hospitality settings.

NSW’s staged opening is also occurring with vaccination levels in the eligible population over 16 years of age closer to 75 per cent then the scheduled 70 per cent and may even reach close to 80 per cent by the weekend when most will really start to enjoy the extra freedoms. In addition, more than 90 per cent of this group has at least one dose, so more than half those not yet fully vaccinated do at least have one dose, reducing their risk of hospitalisation by as much as two thirds.

Two temporary COVID-19 wards closed in Sydney due to waning demand last week, a good sign of where things might be heading. Hospitalisations in NSW have now declined by one third since the peak, same with ICU admissions. They may rise over future weeks, but the pattern to date suggests this will be below the Burnet modelling estimates and within surge capacity.

Importantly, the population level protection from vaccine coverage will be at its peak right now with more than 50 per cent of recipients having completed their second dose within the last six weeks. The timing of the opening up leverages this period of maximum risk reduction for both infection and forward transmission among those who are fully vaccinated.

NSW is heading towards becoming one of the most highly vaccinated populations in the world, with 75 per cent of the entire NSW population, including infants and children, having had at least one dose. That’s now just in front of Britain today, and equivalent to Denmark, which has also opened completely but with case numbers in check.

But we have to remember that we don’t have the same natural immunity in Australia that many other countries have. It is important to ease into living with the virus, and we will continue to have rules in place, density restrictions and caps at events as we take this step by step. The public health teams will continue to manage outbreaks and monitor community transmission, but we may go for days at a time without paying attention to the case numbers.

It is also important that we remember it’s not just what we are allowed to do as restrictions progressively lift, but how we do it. We can also help manage local and global risk by staying mindful of transmission risks, especially those linked to household gatherings that we know only too well now. We can make an impact on next week’s hospitalisations by staying in step with the rules as they ease, and making the most of the outdoors when we have people to our homes, or meeting at venues where COVID-safe rules are in place.

All eyes are now on NSW – may these next weeks be epidemiologically uneventful. There is a lot that all states and territories will want to learn from this next, more substantial, step towards living with the virus.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/good-reasons-to-believe-covid-cases-may-not-...

Carl D wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 4:04pm:



They are animals.

Belgarion wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 12:03pm:



Water taps in public toilets should be foot operated.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 12:19pm:



But he's right -
if you've just had a shower and have fresh underwear
your dick will be a lot cleaner than any public toilet tap.