Islam is a flat earth belief, why do leftists defend this flat earth belief?

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issuevoter wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:03am:



issue,

Do you have a specific phrase in mind, from any of the BBC reports on that WWW page,
which suggests that...... "the BBC recognises the Taliban is Islam" ?

I had a look.

Nothing jumped out at me ?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Islamophobia again.  Tsk, tsk.   

Oh, look, it's that transvestite.  Do you enjoy wearing slacks?  Tsk, tsk.   

The sad truth of islam.

From the day they are born, children are indoctrinated into believing that Allah is the one true god and that everyone else are pagans and must be murdered because they dont believe.

Daily rituals of bowing and mind numbing mantras to their god reinforce that belief continually.

Anyone, ANYONE who dares to question ANYTHING about this cult are either tortured or killed, along with their families.
Leaving the cult is forbidden and brings death to them and their family members.

There is no open discussion, only pure enforced pilgrimage to this god who promotes murder, rape and torture of infidels (non-believers)

Now, all this is done for what?
All the hardships, murder, torture and poverty in this life is for one reason.
They sacrifice their wealth, pleasure, joy and life for a mythical afterlife.
To be given a wondrous afterlife with 40 virgins (what about the women, do they get virgins for their sacrifices?)

How many have actually seen this afterlife?
How many have come back to extol the virtues of this life after death?

So, they are murdering, torturing and punishing people for what?
A dream some sociopath, lying, murderer, self confessed pedophile told them so?

Think about this.
This cowardly prophet RAN AWAY AND HID UNDER HIS BED when his enemies were after him.
He then later, probably in an attempt to hide his cowardly sins, went and destroyed those who kept him safe...Nice guy
Then he tell about the flying donkeys, watching the sun set into a muddy hole and numerous other lies.
The best yet is that he outsmarted the devil..........You have to be kidding.

He rapes some pre-pubescent girls and boasts about it.
Comes up with his only solution to everything (beheading) and sets about forming a cult of death and destruction.

And this is who the followers of islam believe that murder, rape and destruction will take them into an afterlife of joy and heaven?

Seriously???????

You would have to be a total nutcase to believe this liar and follow his doctrines.

ISLAM, THE CULT OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 6:08pm:


How about you pop over to Afghanistan, they'd put you up against the wall in less than 30 seconds. When you poop your pants from an overdose of islamophobia, would you're arse make a tsk tsk sound?   'Tard.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  A populist and a Islamophobe appear upset with my viewpoint.  Tough.  You lot really are quite foolish in your attitudes towards ordinary Muslims.  Tsk, tsk.   

Setanta wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 8:44pm:


Isn't tard just an abbreviation tardy, to be late or delayed?

Gordon wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 8:49pm:


I believe he has a problem with any word with "tard" as part of it, In his past life they called him petard and it kinda rankles him to be reminded. It's where we get the term "hoist with his own petard". As Brian will tell you, he's "Da bomb!"

Gordon wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 9:03pm:


He used to be Da bomb, but now he's just a crater beside a wrecked car with dead and dying, bleeding and screaming, surrounding it, what a dastardly thing to be!

issuevoter wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 10:37pm:






http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1629432510/14#14

Yadda said.....
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Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 11:29pm:


They have no choice in the matter you undemocratic self-righteous fanatical rigid zealot

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21^st, 2021 at 11:29pm:



Er... why not defeat the Taliban instead of running away? We have been encouraging them, supporting them to do so for 20 years. There are 37 million of the peacefuls against 75,000 talibs. They should fight for their own country.


And it's wonderful to hear that they will learn to tolerate Australians in Australia.

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 10:27am:


You answer my questions, Freediver and I might answer yours.  Tsk, tsk.   

issuevoter wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 1:33pm:


First and foremost, islam is not a religion.

Islam is a political organizational cult pretending to be a religion.

What you say about islamic intolerance is the absolute truth.
They demand religious tolerance wherever they go.

Yet, in any islamic country, there is no tolerance for any religion other than the cult of death.
They enforce this with financial penalty, threats and murder.
To even mention another religion will be the end of you.

This political cult of death and destruction has but one aim.
Total world domination.
Dragging the world back to the 6th century with murder and destruction.

If they cannot get you, they will go for your friends and family.
This is how they control the people.
They know that islam is full of cowards who will give you up rather than suffer at the hands of their enforcers, barbarian criminals working for sociopath imams.

There is no good side of islam.
It is a cult that lies
A cult that has no morals
A cult that will kill friend or foe equally as long as it is to their benefit.

Idiots who protect islam are cowards who hope that by protecting the cult of death, may save them from the cult.
Sadly, for them, this is not the case.
Once the cult has finished with using them, they will simply kill them and move on.

What we see now in Afganastan

Is the true face of islam.

This is what is in store for any country who allows islam to get enough control.

Its a wake up call people.
Just as it was when Hitler started coming to power.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 3:18pm:


What about Abu? Or did you close your eyes every time he posted?

Or how about "tough titties, off with their heads" Gandalf? Just your average, ordinary, everyday genocide supporting Muslim, right? You could could probably talk to him about Islam for a decade and avoid the topic altogether.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 1:07pm:


Yes, yes, we've already seen your ad-hom, white flag accepted, although we didn't need it to know how dismally wrong you are.

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 4:27pm:


All in your imagination, Bias.   I am very democratic in anything except morality.  Indeed, I laugh at your views on the matter because I have never heard of or seen a vote called on moral values.  Tsk, tsk.   

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More ad hominem insults.  What is intolerable is your Islamophobia.  You are Xenophobic in the extreme.  You obviously belong with Pauline Hanson, over there, in the naughty corner for being ignorant and rude.  Tsk, tsk.   

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 5:53pm:


My "ad-hom" is very mild compared to some of the insults I have been subjected to.  Childish, ignorant and foolish in extremis.  Usually posted to try and insult me and prove the original posters' superiority to me.  I keep my head and are very mild in what I serve in return.  You appear not to like that.  I wonder why?   This forum is going further and further into the pockets of the Xenophobes.  Tsk, tsk.   

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 6:20pm:


Ad-hom is ad-hom Brian. Is it not? Or are you only giving me a part, a strip of a white flag? A white hanky perhaps?
When you said "You realise that when you resort to ad hominem insults you are signalling that you've already lost the argument?" it didn't mention scales. If you don't want to be hoist on your own petard, don't be a petard.

Bertie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:06pm:


Do you think that as well as being a doctor of divinity he may also be a Urophiliac?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:20pm:


Personally I see Brian as a wheelchair bound moralising keyboard warrior that can no longer get out and see the world. An impotent loser who sees his whole relevance in some stupid online Don Quiote moral conquistador mentality.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:38pm:


Absolutely! That's why we should import some Taliban along with the "good people".

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:34pm:


Gawd.......try as I might, I just cannot resist.  Fuq me, talk about idiots in glass houses!

Personally I see Setanta as an unemployed wounded wanker dependent on his kids wheelchair bound moralising keyboard warrior that can no longer get out and see the world, other than in a soup kitchen and places like this.  An absolute dead seat impotent loser who sees his whole relevance in some stupid online Don Quixote moral conquistador mentality circle jerking with the mindless windmills here....and he manages to self- servingly elevate his significance because freediver gave him some buttons here.  He has played tribally, revealing to people information he refuses to reveal to others.  He has trusted people who have used/played him beautifully and then......they have immediately betrayed his trust.

You have no standing in the stakes of moralising about the merit of other posters Setanta, and those you have trusted (not me) have breached that trust, large.

Get back in your box.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:06pm:


No, his self delusion.

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:02pm:


Cool story bro!

You're in no position to designate boxes or be wondering about them.

The sad truth of islam.

From the day they are born, children are indoctrinated into believing that Allah is the one true god and that everyone else are pagans and must be murdered because they dont believe.

Daily rituals of bowing and mind numbing mantras to their god reinforce that belief continually.

Anyone, ANYONE who dares to question ANYTHING about this cult are either tortured or killed, along with their families.
Leaving the cult is forbidden and brings death to them and their family members.

There is no open discussion, only pure enforced pilgrimage to this god who promotes murder, rape and torture of infidels (non-believers)

Now, all this is done for what?
All the hardships, murder, torture and poverty in this life is for one reason.
They sacrifice their wealth, pleasure, joy and life for a mythical afterlife.
To be given a wondrous afterlife with 40 virgins (what about the women, do they get virgins for their sacrifices?)

How many have actually seen this afterlife?
How many have come back to extol the virtues of this life after death?

So, they are murdering, torturing and punishing people for what?
A dream some sociopath, lying, murderer, self confessed pedophile told them so?

Think about this.
This cowardly prophet RAN AWAY AND HID UNDER HIS BED when his enemies were after him.
He then later, probably in an attempt to hide his cowardly sins, went and destroyed those who kept him safe...Nice guy
Then he tell about the flying donkeys, watching the sun set into a muddy hole and numerous other lies.
The best yet is that he outsmarted the devil..........You have to be kidding.

He rapes some pre-pubescent girls and boasts about it.
Comes up with his only solution to everything (beheading) and sets about forming a cult of death and destruction.

And this is who the followers of islam believe that murder, rape and destruction will take them into an afterlife of joy and heaven?

Seriously???????

You would have to be a total nutcase to believe this liar and follow his doctrines.

ISLAM, THE CULT OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:17pm:


you should be more concerned with your self delusion

Gordon wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:


Is one BBC as good as ABC?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 7:38pm:



The Libs and Labs are going to do what they want so expressing views isn't going to make much difference

The policies they have make up the enforced status quo we have at the present time and you either agree with them or you are left in the political lurch, politically disenfranchised.

What the politically disenfranchised are being asked to accept is that voters put those parties in power, but then, John Smith said that if you place the Libs and Labs last and second last on the ballot paper, you're still voting for those two parties, the Libs and Labs

Smith then said, if a third party received a majority of primary votes, the preferences would then flow to that third party (implying that they will then win power)

So what happened when a third party received a million votes from the disenfranchised in the late nineties? Not that they could win power with a million votes, but just the same ...

Now when the disenfranchised put forward their views, it's in the hope that the Libs and Labs will tweak their status quo policies by taking into consideration those views of the disenfranchised. And/or spark enough interest in the general community to establish one or more third parties that would enhance the democratic process and greatly minimize political disenfranchisement

This would mean some give and take, rather than the jurassic winner takes all

At the moment, and generally speaking, a winning vote retains 100% of it's value ... a losing vote loses 100% of it's value and is discarded into the waste bin, this is the case with the votes of the passionate disenfranchised voters, many of whom vote for anyone other than the Libs and Labs every election

The proponents of the current system who conscientiously and stridently support it, say it's our duty to vote, even if the disenfranchised lose 100% of the value of their vote every election

Well, a million people did their duty when they voted for One Nation in the late nineties ... but suddenly, nearly everyone thought they did the wrong duty, they shouldn't have done their duty that way at all ... the sky fell in and the World was coming to an end, people were shocked that anyone could possibly call that their duty

That's your "even keel" Bobby, my fellow dutiful voter

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 10:24pm:



What did I just say? ... "Not that they could win power with a million votes" ... do you have trouble reading and comprehending?

But those voters did their duty, just as you and Smith say they should ... and now you're saying votes can be meaningless. So what's that mean, how would you put it now? ... "Do your duty, but don't expect your vote to mean anything unless your team wins government or you get a seat in Parliament" ... that would be it wouldn't it?



Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 10:24pm:


Not completely true, there is always an excess of votes that are not needed to finalize the preference distribution. Those excess votes lose 100% of their value and are discarded 

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:


They are meaningless is the context of "winning power", not in the context of expressing their opinion.  You really are being a nasty piece of work, you realise that.  Tsk, tsk.   

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All votes are counted.  All votes are noted.  All votes have meaning.  If you decide to vote for a candidate who is discarded early in the process who is to blame?  Tsk, tsk. 

issuevoter wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:03am:




IN 2021, IN CANADA'S 'LIBERAL' GOVERNMENT....
IN 2021, IN CANADA'S 'LIBERAL' GOVERNMENT....
IN 2021, IN CANADA'S 'LIBERAL' GOVERNMENT....


WWW search....




Politics, in Western, 'Liberal' nations, in 2021.

No integrity.

Zero accountability.     ....[for the consequences of their 'mastery'].

Yadda appears happy, displaying his Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   

Yadda wrote on Aug 26^th, 2021 at 5:16pm:



She was referring to the muslim culture where they call themselves "brothers" and "sisters"

Only problem with that is she's a Minister and Canada is not a muslim country. She's copping a lot of flak from Canadians and she's trying to save her skin now by pointing out that the Taliban are a terrorist organization ... well why didn't she disown them from the start, instead of coming out and calling them "our brothers"? They certainly won't be brothers to Canadians

issuevoter wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:03am:


No.

Every member of the Taliban is a Muslim, however, not every Muslim is a member of the Taliban.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:44pm:


If they aren't interested in playing the Talibans game ... how come they downed weapons & fled?

I reiterate what I said - you don't know what an ordinary muslim is ....

there are no "ordinary" muslims.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:





I'm shocked !

/sarc off


disingenuous = = not candid or sincere, especially in pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

sanction = = official permission or approval


"ordinary" Christians     have no sanction      from their God [or from the religious precepts of their religion] to rape altar boys.

Any "ordinary" Christian who does rape altar boys, would be considered [by another Christian, or by his whole community] to be a criminal.

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Whereas, "ordinary" moslems DO have a sanction....
     from Allah,
     from the Holy Koran,
     and from Mohammed [the Messenger of Allah],
to persecute      and to kill      everyone who rejects the primacy of ISLAM and ISLAMIC law.





"there are no "ordinary" muslims."



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"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06




"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."


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THE HADITH....


hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



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IMAGE.....





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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/australia-islamic-bonnie-and-clyde-plotted-ne...







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Brian Ross wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 10:39pm:


brian,

For an honours graduate student, your English comprehension is a FAIL.

In my post, i said that pedophiles are criminals, and should be regarded as criminals.



Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 5:41pm:



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brian,

Pedophiles, and ISLAM,     .....and the marrying 6 years old little girls ?



Take the example of Allah's Messenger....

ISLAMIC texts attest that Aisha [Mohammed's wife]     was 6 years old     when she was married to Mohammed,
and that she was 9 years old when their wedding was consummated, by Mohammed.



And further,     ....ISLAM's deity, Allah, describes every aspect of Mohammed's behaviour, in his life, as,
PRAISEWORTHY.

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. "
Koran 33.021



brian,

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:


I bet there are plenty of questions you are afraid to ask them that you would not like the answer to.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 5:23pm:



greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 5:29pm:



issue,

That is what allowing moslems to live among us, does.

And what a constant association with moslems will do.

It is easy to conclude, that greggery has 'gone native', and learned their mores.


.....simply dismiss as being 'irrelevant', the reasonable argument, of anyone who does not belong to their 'tribe'.
.....reason be damned.




mores = = the customs and conventions of a community.



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And i maintain....followers of ISLAM ought not to be allowed to live among us.

Followers of ISLAM are morally corrupting, and wholly incompatible [to live] with/among any society of men, who respect truth and freedom of expression.





http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34


and....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0

Are you suggesting that whatever issue you have with trinitarian theology is just as bad as the Quran literally instructing Muslims to go out and slaughter the infidel, and Muslims going out and slaughtering the infidel in response?

Can you quote it?

This is where his doctor of divinity comes in handy. Defending Islamic terrorists and making up stuff about Christianity. Perhaps he got it from Gandalf's madrassa.