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Mt Warning to stay closed.
Jul 28th, 2021 at 7:22am
 
It looks like the petition to keep MT. warnings climbing trail open has been a wasted effort.

Note the last paragraph where the Minister side steps the issue with waffle about govt. expenditure on walking trail alternatives.

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Ms Helen Minnican
Clerk of the Legislative Assembly
Parliament House
Macquarie Street
SYDNEY NSW 2000
Dear Ms Minnican
Thank you for your email about an ePetition with more than 500 signatures requesting
reopening the Wollumbin (Mount Warning) summit track in Wollumbin National Park.
Wollumbin National Park was closed by the National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) in
March 2020 due to COVID-19 health restrictions. The closure has been extended until the
end of November 2021 due to public safety risks associated with the summit walking track
and permit further consultation with the Aboriginal community and other key stakeholders
about the future management of the site.
I am advised the decision to extend the closure due to public safety risks was based on a
structural assessment carried out in August 2020 by an independent engineer. The
assessment identified significant safety issues with the post and chain system used in the
final approach of the summit track. Given the findings, NPWS removed the climbing chain in
November 2020.
As you may know, the upper reach of Wollumbin was declared an Aboriginal Place in 2014
in recognition of its special significance to Aboriginal people.
This affords the place special
protections. I understand the local Aboriginal community has long expressed a view that
access to the summit should be closed due to its significance.
An Aboriginal Place Management Plan is being finalised which formally sets out the
Aboriginal community’s advice on access to the summit and documents Wollumbin’s
significant Aboriginal cultural heritage values.
The Plan has been prepared in consultation with the Aboriginal community including the
Wollumbin Consultative Group, which represents a range of Aboriginal groups and families
with connection to Wollumbin and has been providing advice to NPWS since 2000. The
decision to extend the closure to the end of November 2021 will enable further consultation
with the Aboriginal community and other stakeholders about the future of the track.

While this consultation process takes place, the NSW Government is investing in a range of
visitor infrastructure across the region as part of the largest capital investment program ever
undertaken in our national parks.

By way of example, the $7.35 million Tweed Byron Hinterland Trails project will provide a
four-day walk from Unicorn Falls to Minyon Falls with new and upgraded visitor facilities at
key points along the trail. Initial works at the Minyon Falls visitor precinct commenced in
December 2020.

If you have any further questions about this matter, please contact Mr Russell Madeley,
Director North Coast, NPWS on 6652 0923 or at russell.madeley@environment.nsw.gov.au.
Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to the Government’s attention.
Yours sincerely
26 July 2021
Matt Kean MP
Minister for Energy and Environment
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Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 7:33am
 
Changes include increased security, raising the internal height barrier fencing, installation of greater anti-climb mesh and additional surveillance cameras to prevent people climbing the Sydney Harbour Bridge illegally. The penalty will also increase from $3300 to $22,000 in line with illegally climbing the Sydney Opera House.
Minister for Roads, Maritime and Freight Melinda Pavey said the NSW Government is delivering on a promise to toughen up deterrents.

However, Aboriginal groups will force their way to the summit as a traditional custom.
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Reply #2 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 7:44am
 
chimera wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 7:33am:
Changes include increased security, raising the internal height barrier fencing, installation of greater anti-climb mesh and additional surveillance cameras to prevent people climbing the Sydney Harbour Bridge illegally. The penalty will also increase from $3300 to $22,000 in line with illegally climbing the Sydney Opera House.
Minister for Roads, Maritime and Freight Melinda Pavey said the NSW Government is delivering on a promise to toughen up deterrents.

However, Aboriginal groups will force their way to the summit as a traditional custom.


Roll Eyes Yeah well... groups? Or just a section of those groups.... i.e. males?
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Reply #3 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:14am
 
Pure unadulterated RACISM against whites

Whites who made this country great.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #4 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:20am
 
Weasely two-faced politicians and public servants, living off the fattest in the land while people struggle to put food on the table, and using their position like some petty dictator to impose their latest bout of insanity on those without even a Voice to oppose them....

Take back the funny farm............
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Reply #5 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:39am
 
Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.
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Reply #6 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:48am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:39am:
Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.



It's called standing united with those that like to climb. It's called freedom. Something a lot of political people seem to hate.
Why do you want to lock up the country bojack?



And stop changing your name ffs. It is making you look like someone who has something to hide, although it is typical school yard behaviour.  Wink
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Reply #7 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:49am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:39am:
Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.


So? Have you?

And had I wished to?

Shorten up your moniker to Dill.

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Reply #8 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:49am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:39am:
Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.




Amazing stretch there, but nothing unusual in discussion.... any dream will do.....

Let's all just agree that Stan can't physically climb Mt Warning, but that he has the right to climb Mt Warning.. all in favour??

Keep going, Grasshopper - you will one day stumble across the chasm between rights and wants.

Always was Australian land - always will be!  The country and especially National Parks - are for everyone, and the latter are held in trust by governments on behalf of ALL people.

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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:56am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:49am:
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:39am:
Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.




Amazing stretch there, but nothing unusual in discussion.... any dream will do.....

Let's all just agree that Stan can't physically climb Mt Warning, but that he has the right to climb Mt Warning.. all in favour??

Keep going, Grasshopper - you will one day stumble across the chasm between rights and wants.

Always was Australian land - always will be!  The country and especially National Parks - are for everyone, and the latter are held in trust by governments on behalf of ALL people.



Its just what I usually find from my canyoning/bushwalking stuff. People who regularly bushwalk are respectful of land concerns.
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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:03am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:56am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:49am:
John Dillermand wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:39am:
Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.




Amazing stretch there, but nothing unusual in discussion.... any dream will do.....

Let's all just agree that Stan can't physically climb Mt Warning, but that he has the right to climb Mt Warning.. all in favour??

Keep going, Grasshopper - you will one day stumble across the chasm between rights and wants.

Always was Australian land - always will be!  The country and especially National Parks - are for everyone, and the latter are held in trust by governments on behalf of ALL people.



Its just what I usually find from my canyoning/bushwalking stuff. People who regularly bushwalk are respectful of land concerns.


So are others given the chance... kind of a circular argument there - the bushwalker respects, so what about the non-bushwalker?  Just take away any right to walk part of the bush on the assumption that he/she might not 'respect'?

To be a Right a right must be universally applied... equal rights for all or no rights at all.

We saw that ridiculous argument about Ayers Rock - tourists pissing and sh1tting etc.. what did the Abos who climbed it for thousands of years do when up there?  Hold on to it?  Ban climbing because it damages the Rock - so only Abos can climb it now but that doesn't 'damage' the Rock?

All bullshit arguments put together by a group of mainly white back room boys and girls who never themselves walked a trail... but are 'empowered' to make decisions binding on all, as if by some kind of divine right.

Get back to me when I finish my dissertation on the Divine Right Of Elected Government, handed down by God, innit?
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Reply #11 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:08am
 
[quote author=Jones link=1627420955/5#5 date=1627425554]Spoken by a bunch of people not likely to have done the walk anyway.[/quote]

At least 10 times.


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Reply #12 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:09am
 
There's no such thing as sacred, its just oogey boogy.
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Reply #13 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:15am
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:09am:
There's no such thing as sacred, its just oogey boogy.


National Parks, held in trust by government on behalf of all the people, must not be used to make political statements designed by a bunch of backroom layabouts on high pay.
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Reply #14 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:20am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:15am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:09am:
There's no such thing as sacred, its just oogey boogy.


National Parks, held in trust by government on behalf of all the people, must not be used to make political statements designed by a bunch of backroom layabouts on high pay.


Charge $25 for adults and use the money for scholarships for local Abo kids. Close the climb a few times a month so Abos can get their boong on.

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