Jordan Peterson suggest 10 percent of all people are a drain on society.

Complete bullshit....Most people never apply for military service especially those with high IQ's who pursue other careers....It is also bullshit to assume people with a low IQ are not productive!!!

Bobby. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 10:40pm:


With a 5% unemployment rate that would mean 5% of those with an average to low IQ are either in sheltered workshops or are unproductive....Bullshit....People with an average to low IQ do most of the productive work self entitled arse holes consider below them!!!



https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peters...

Covid is a drain on society and is smarter than everyone. Even the Coordinator General of the National COVID Vaccine Taskforce. Or the person who invented such a title.

There is the strange anomaly that certain high-functioning autistics (particularly the former Aspergers) who perform poorly on IQ tests, yet are laser-focussed brilliant (genius, even) in particular intellectual capacities.

Wasn't Einstein considered dull-minded as a child?

chimera wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 11:05am:


Ya got me, baby.....

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 10:01pm:


Kill them.

Captain of a nuke sub.  Up or down. Fast /slow. Position from GPS.  Code red, turn the key. To the right, stupid.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:



Castrate them so they cannot pollute the world.

Gordon wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:23pm:



Africa is scary and we import them here:


The country with the lowest IQ score, on average, is the Equatorial Guinea in Africa. Those who reside in Equatorial Guinea have an average IQ of 59, which is 49 points lower than the average IQ of Singapore and Hong Kong.

Gordon wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:



In Africa?

Notice the smartest countries are the Asian ones?
IQ 105 or higher on average in China and Japan.
Australia is below average just like the Yanks only 98.

Gordon wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:33pm:
Poor nutrition  and environmental influences skew IQ statistics considerably.  I also suspect the higher IQ scores of some Asian countries is due to higher educational expectations.

There is a correlation between average IQ and the risk of contracting infectious diseases. The reason being (apparently) developmentally the brain and the immune system compete for energy. High pathogenic loads and the contraction of diseases focuses the body's energy on the immune system at the cost of neural development.

Junkies like Peterson are a drain on society

John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

You only say that because you do not understand what he is saying.  No, actually you are not even listening to what he is saying. If you listened and understood and then disagreed, you would have articulated your reasons.  But you do not listen, but if you did you wouldn't understand, but if you did understand you couldn't  say where he went wrong in his thinking, but if you could say that, you couldn't articulate your better idea.

You are a mindless ijit at so many levels! 

Gordon wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:23pm:


I refuse to believe that we Australians are only as smart as the Americans.

I have found that a good proportion of the most successful people that I know are not very smart and also a largish portion of the smartest people I know are not very successful in monitory or business terms.

To be a success you only need to be good at one thing but being strong at everything seldom works the same way.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:12pm:

Did that....er.... 'wisdom' work in your own life?



No.  Bbwian, k'anal, gweggy, gino smiff love you. You are all in the same boat. Hug.

John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 6:04pm:

You dont like his views because they lead to conclusions which conflict with your views on race, unfortunately his views are based on information which is well researched and accurate. At least 10 percent of people are a drain on society due to low IQ, thats just a fact. It is a fact that non white people for whatever reasons make up most of that 10 percent.

rhino wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:



his views on what exactly? I've seen many of his videos over the years so which one are you referring to? What I don't like is his hypocrisy, irrespective of his views.

rhino wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:38pm:



are you on the same drugs as Peterson?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:41pm:


i haven't memorized his speeches. I tend to forget what he said 3 minutes after he said it, I find him that boring. I saw several of his rants over the years and was never impressed by anything he said. He's an over educated idiot. Sure he's well spoken, but he's an idiot nonetheless.  The one thing that stuck with me was his hypocrisy. One instance that comes to mind he was going on and on about how the left like to label people and how it's such a bad thing and we shouldn't do it ... and throughout the whole spiel he was labeling the left every disparaging label he could think off  .... so what? using labels is only bad when the left do it? the guys a dickhead and I just don't like him. He appeals to a certain group and between themselves they all tell each other how great they are. Not for me.

John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:52pm:

Have you ever read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'? He's the Phaedrus character.

Like Phaedrus in the novel, there's the Pirsig pre-hospitalisation for psychosis and the Pirsig post-hospitalisation (when he wrote the book)... Peterson's at the early phase of Pirsig's post-hospitalisation and getting better at finding his feet.

John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 6:04pm:



Let's face it - you could not point to ANYTHING he said that was a 'mindless dribble' . Nothing. You are too stupid and incomprehending.

Give us one example of 'mindless dribble'. Go on, articulate.



You won't because you can't. YOU ARE the mindless dribbler.

Have cannoli. Have two.

Could there be a greater drain on society than those war deaths? Starting at the top (Kaiser, Lord Grey) down to the generals condemned by the UK government.

chimera wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 9:33pm:

The top would be Mao's great famine.

Frank wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 9:51pm:

Why? You either love a Van Gogh or you hate it. What's to figure?

Watch this video to see how retarded the POMs are:


https://www.bitchute.com/video/Cs0vWybdiPYL/

rhino wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:



Hilarious. His views are not backed by facts. They're never backed by facts. That's the entire problem with him. He cherry picks segments of facts, tailors them to his own devices and preaches them to idiots to whom they serve as exquisite confirmation bias. They never question them, they just resonate with them.

The4 facts of the matter are that 10% of the population are not useless. TO suggest otherwise is lunacy.

Firstly, you'd have to accept that IQ tests are worth a damn. Not many do anymore. Other than to be applied in the broadest possible way.

Gordon wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:23pm:



Ok look! One of it's believers is Gordy.

Colour me surprised.

Just went back and watched it again and yes, he argues that the military is as complex as society at large.

Upon this, he rests his case.

I'm not even kidding.

Complex. His word.

And thus, as the military has no "use" for these people, how could society?

And there are people here who bought this poo? You should hang your heads in shame.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 9:53pm:



Ah - life is an art form..... who'd 've thunk it!!

Apparently it seems there is something in IQ (despite anomalies)... It is the best indicator of mental capacity (when it can be reasonably measured), but it must be factored alongside the so-called 'big five' 'OCEAN' personality traits:

Openness (with sub-categories: openness to new experience and intellect)
Conscientiousness (industriousness and orderliness)
Extroversion (Enthusiasm and assertiveness)
Agreeability (Compassion and politeness)
Neuroticism (Withdrawal and volatility).

A person who is average to below average in successfully measurable IQ but high in conscientiousness, is likely to succeed above the average.

However, if someone is very high in successfully measurable IQ and very high in conscientiousness is likely to succeed towards the top 1%.

The above has to also be balanced against the person's score in openness, extroversion and neuroticism.

There's generally no perfect personality profile, but agreeableness is a factor that will generally detract from personal success as is being high in neuroticism.

mothra wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 2:02am:


I judge by actions, not the 'official' word.  And yon feminists did indeed trot out such ideas, but of course, you don't need to cull young males when you can control their minds and their destiny and marginalise them at whim ... and perhaps you could explain to us the end game of all these Indigenous demands .. where does this 'ownership' and 'special rights' rationally end?

Over to you.....

chimera wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 7:43am:


40 million plus.

Then there's his successors contributions on top of that.

Anyway - despite vows to the contrary, IQ 'tests' remain orientated towards certain groups.  A person who assiduously works at doing - say - number sequences etc or patterns - does not necessarily have a higher IQ than someone who has never set eyes on those things - and thus the 'test' can be biased.

Repeat doing of the same thing can appear to be intelligent - i.e. doing the cryptic crossword puzzle - but it is often mainly a matter of rote and experience, and not intelligence pure and simple. I used to routinely do the cryptic during morning tea break in the CPS - practice..... doesn't mean I could read music, though... never tried... huge difference.

Same applies to many things.

I, for example, allegedly have a very high IQ - but I'm one of those who tend to generalise rather than specialise, and so, unless in the proper place, my comparative 'success' could be limited to less than that of people with a technically lower IQ, but who specialise.

It's not rocket surgery.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 9:22am:


An IQ score is most useful within similar demographics, and is not an end point but a starting point.

Gordon wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 9:26am:



Bullshit. It's not worth the paper it's written on.

They are only used these days for exploitation or academic navel gazing.

Gordon wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:


Tell us more, Gordy?

Gnads wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

Oh aye, the top 10% of society. Well, Comrade Xi is 1/ 1,400,000,000 like Mao.  The higher you go the bigger the drain.. doesn't sound right.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 1:03pm:


You've missed the point, Graps. Although I agree with you about the need to teach morality, IQ is a test of intelligence. The clue is in the name. Morality and intelligence are separate, although the former is greater than the latter.

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 3:48pm:



I'm impressed by Brian he has 3 degrees:

BA,
MA,
DD.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 3:37pm:


I guess my point is that the intelligent man can absorb morality better... just a generalisation there... it comes from understanding rather than following dogma... like the warrior poets of olde.. a man who understood the finer points of life understood why he went to war to defend them... and singing went into battle with a full heart.... hoo-rah....

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 4:13pm:


I come from a long line of people who walk the border between intelligence and madness.... I am the sole survivor of my lot..... makes you wonder, eh?  Sane as a scarecrow... DVA says so... but what do they know?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 4:13pm:

Urban myth, they dont.

rhino wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 4:25pm:


I'm speaking relatively.  They're not Euclids or Schopenhauers. Or Rhinos. Most notably Rhinos.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 3:55pm:




At least I am educated, unlike yourself, Hammer. 

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 4:43pm:


Could you teach me how to fill out shower requisitions please, Prof?

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 5:42pm:



Bwian's's got a doctorate in bending over for Uncle Sam.

You see it in supermarkets where 10% of customers pile up in the check-outs, unable to put stuff on the counter and work out how to pay.
They unload into the previous trolley or build mounds of baked beans and chips on the floor. They use old receipts as credit cards or offer newspaper (picked up from the shelf) as cash.  Many can't steer the trolleys and there is grid-lock in the final dash to the door.  And it's increasing.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:59pm:


No


NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:59pm:


Was Phaedrus a junkie too?

Gnads wrote on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 9:07am:


And?