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Re: Zuby's 'Laws'
Reply #45 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:31pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 4:31pm:

I read somewhere recently that the biggest, most unmentionable secret in the CCP is that the party is not communist, and has never had any intention of communism.

Even Mao knew this. It's the elephant in the room in the upper levels. It's not even socialist.

The CCP is about the party. That's how Deng could get away with suggesting that it doesn't matter what colour the cat is - a travesty in the Mao era.

Yes... It's the reason Hitler and Stalin could ally with themselves (at least for a short while).

It was Hitler's ego that ended the alliance, but if it hadn't been Hitler, Stalin would have made the first move.

Dictatorships and tyrannies don't require any particular ideology, so long as it delivers absolute power.

The ideological source could be political or religious, it doesn't matter.

Communism coopted a dead German's revolutionary politico-social theory to deliver absolute power.

Hitler had the harder job (than Lenin, Stalin and Mao) of having to build his political justification himself, using the past glories of Germany's so-called 1st and 2nd reichs; coupled with the social destruction following WW1 and the notion of a fifth column which caused Germany's destruction.

Islamism offers the same to the charismatic zealot.

The bottom line being: Ideology is irrelevant. It's function is to offer a pathway and a mechanism to deliver absolute power.

Aquascoot knows that. He'll support Trump, Putin or Xi. Either/or, or all.

As long as they're about absolute power, it's all good.

incorrect.

what i WONT do is support mediocre butt hurt chodes who have done nothing, risked nothing and produced nothing, sitting back as arm chair critics as if they could do a better job.

power is an onerous responsibility.

i would consider putin, trump and Xi more fit to lead then you karmal.

i think if they put you in the white house or the kremlin or where ever ccp hangs out , i think you would produce a catastrophe.

and i doubt north would produce a cohesive successful properous society if you put him in charge of 1.4 billion people Roll Eyes

its tough at the top Grin

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Reply #46 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:33pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 4:31pm:

I read somewhere recently that the biggest, most unmentionable secret in the CCP is that the party is not communist, and has never had any intention of communism.

Even Mao knew this. It's the elephant in the room in the upper levels. It's not even socialist.

The CCP is about the party. That's how Deng could get away with suggesting that it doesn't matter what colour the cat is - a travesty in the Mao era.

Yes... It's the reason Hitler and Stalin could ally with themselves (at least for a short while).

It was Hitler's ego that ended the alliance, but if it hadn't been Hitler, Stalin would have made the first move.

Dictatorships and tyrannies don't require any particular ideology, so long as it delivers absolute power.

The ideological source could be political or religious, it doesn't matter.

Communism coopted a dead German's revolutionary politico-social theory to deliver absolute power.

Hitler had the harder job (than Lenin, Stalin and Mao) of having to build his political justification himself, using the past glories of Germany's so-called 1st and 2nd reichs; coupled with the social destruction following WW1 and the notion of a fifth column which caused Germany's destruction.

Islamism offers the same to the charismatic zealot.

The bottom line being: Ideology is irrelevant. It's function is to offer a pathway and a mechanism to deliver absolute power.

Aquascoot knows that. He'll support Trump, Putin or Xi. Either/or, or all.

As long as they're about absolute power, it's all good.

incorrect.

what i WONT do is support mediocre butt hurt chodes who have done nothing, risked nothing and produced nothing, sitting back as arm chair critics as if they could do a better job.

power is an onerous responsibility.

i would consider putin, trump and Xi more fit to lead then you karmal.

i think if they put you in the white house or the kremlin or where ever ccp hangs out , i think you would produce a catastrophe.

and i doubt north would produce a cohesive successful properous society if you put him in charge of 1.4 billion people Roll Eyes

its tough at the top Grin

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 92269 Gender:	Re: Zuby's 'Laws' Reply #47 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:43pm Oh? What did Trump produce in the White House that wasn't a catastrophe? Apart from getting there in the first place, you've never actually said.
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Reply #48 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:46pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 4:31pm:

I read somewhere recently that the biggest, most unmentionable secret in the CCP is that the party is not communist, and has never had any intention of communism.

Even Mao knew this. It's the elephant in the room in the upper levels. It's not even socialist.

The CCP is about the party. That's how Deng could get away with suggesting that it doesn't matter what colour the cat is - a travesty in the Mao era.

Yes... It's the reason Hitler and Stalin could ally with themselves (at least for a short while).

It was Hitler's ego that ended the alliance, but if it hadn't been Hitler, Stalin would have made the first move.

Dictatorships and tyrannies don't require any particular ideology, so long as it delivers absolute power.

The ideological source could be political or religious, it doesn't matter.

Communism coopted a dead German's revolutionary politico-social theory to deliver absolute power.

Hitler had the harder job (than Lenin, Stalin and Mao) of having to build his political justification himself, using the past glories of Germany's so-called 1st and 2nd reichs; coupled with the social destruction following WW1 and the notion of a fifth column which caused Germany's destruction.

Islamism offers the same to the charismatic zealot.

The bottom line being: Ideology is irrelevant. It's function is to offer a pathway and a mechanism to deliver absolute power.

Aquascoot knows that. He'll support Trump, Putin or Xi. Either/or, or all.

As long as they're about absolute power, it's all good.

Yes, unfortunately true... All of us have an instinct for absolutism... Insofar as we can imagine exercising unlimited power... Like in dreams where we kill off our enemies without accountability (like Dumb and Dumber).

Fortunately most of us learn to accede to the strange world of being a social animal, while some cannot.

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Reply #49 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:50pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:26pm:

I think Aquascoot's into Zuby for the words, North.

Strong Advice.

I don't think he's read the book.

Ahh... Takes me back to the good ole days when we all bought porn mags for the articles.

Indeed. While some read Zuby's book for the thirty day workout plan, Aquascoot reads it for the authoritarianism.

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Reply #50 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:54pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:26pm:

I think Aquascoot's into Zuby for the words, North.

Strong Advice.

I don't think he's read the book.

Ahh... Takes me back to the good ole days when we all bought porn mags for the articles.

Indeed. While some read Zuby's book for the thirty day workout plan, Aquascoot reads it for the authoritarianism.

I couldn't have said it better!

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Reply #52 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 8:19pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

horseboys heros

Zuby
Tony Robins

hmmmm! Roll Eyes

Yeah... Then there's 'self-help' guruism - Offering one-liners as golden rules... And just a handful;

Attend the lecture at a one-time-only low price, buy the videos, tune in to the audio, buy the book...

Follow the plan. It'll work if you're on the path to the right spiritual plane... But, if it fails... it's you, not the guru. Practise more and log in, for a one-time-only low price, to a webinar where the guru will adjust your wrong thinking...

Religion has not survived for multi-millenia for no reason...

We all fear doubt and death... That's our burden... 'our cross to bear' of mega-sentience.

How else could gurus and dictators take hold of our minds and bend us to their will?

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Reply #53 - Jul 25^th, 2021 at 11:02pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 8:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

horseboys heros

Zuby
Tony Robins

hmmmm! Roll Eyes

Yeah... Then there's 'self-help' guruism - Offering one-liners as golden rules... And just a handful;

Attend the lecture at a one-time-only low price, buy the videos, tune in to the audio, buy the book...

Follow the plan. It'll work if you're on the path to the right spiritual plane... But, if it fails... it's you, not the guru. Practise more and log in, for a one-time-only low price, to a webinar where the guru will adjust your wrong thinking...

Religion has not survived for multi-millenia for no reason...

We all fear doubt and death... That's our burden... 'our cross to bear' of mega-sentience.

How else could gurus and dictators take hold of our minds and bend us to their will?

North, I believe Aquascoot thinks just that. You've just broadcast his thoughts.

Zuby agrees too, and he stole Aquascoot's ideas to begin with.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Zuby's 'Laws' Reply #55 - Jul 26^th, 2021 at 10:49am aquascoot wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 5:31am: aquascoot believes he has pinched a nerve Sciatica? Stop bending at the hip.
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Reply #57 - Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:59am

Zuby's 'Laws' is another example of arrogated religious rhetoric in a largely post-religious world.

In the politico-speak of totalitarianism, the 'heretic' becomes the 'perfidious, delusional, false ideological, individual sovereignty/individual rights provocateur and enemy of the people', delivered with the venom of a medieval Spanish Catholic Cardinal.

For those who've knocked up 'the secret to a successful life' (usually involving accumulating easy cash), the 'heretic' is 'a loser, an automaton, a bleating sheep wandering in the fogged 'hell' of their own dullness', delivered with the venom of a medieval protestant evangelist.

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Reply #58 - Jul 26^th, 2021 at 12:35pm

"Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:31pm:
I read somewhere recently that the biggest, most unmentionable secret in the CCP is that the party is not communist, and has never had any intention of communism.

Even Mao knew this. It's the elephant in the room in the upper levels. It's not even socialist.

The CCP is about the party. That's how Deng could get away with suggesting that it doesn't matter what colour the cat is - a travesty in the Mao era. "

You are so on the money when you speak on your proper metier - why do you choose to just disrupt every discussion with nonsense? You can be smart without being a smart-arse - didn't your mother ever teach you that?

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Reply #59 - Jul 26^th, 2021 at 12:48pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 11:59am:

Zuby's 'Laws' is another example of arrogated religious rhetoric in a largely post-religious world.

In the politico-speak of totalitarianism, the 'heretic' becomes the 'perfidious, delusional, false ideological, individual sovereignty/individual rights provocateur and enemy of the people', delivered with the venom of a medieval Spanish Catholic Cardinal.

For those who've knocked up 'the secret to a successful life' (usually involving accumulating easy cash), the 'heretic' is 'a loser, an automaton, a bleating sheep wandering in the fogged 'hell' of their own dullness', delivered with the venom of a medieval protestant evangelist.

Either that, North, or their dicks are wider than they are long.

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