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Reply #15 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:02pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 12:58pm:
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5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.

This is a stupid, meaningless statement. Anything and everything is pretty smacking all-encompassing, and the way its worded, apparently the only people that don't politicize things are those who don't trust the government, which is demonstrably false.


Oh, I don't know. Who would have ever thought a world leader would turn medical masks in a pandemic into an identity issue?

I guess it didn't help that wearing masks in public was seen as an 'Asian thing'.



I thought it was an expression by certain Asians that they are a Silenced Mxxority group or were "without a Voice" in their own nation and government..... all are Entitled™ to a Voice™, no?

... now define Voice™, then Entitled™ ..... such terms are malleable... though many who use them are malletable.....
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Reply #16 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:20pm
 
chimera wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:15pm:
If Trump followers didn't know about Asian masks, how were they manipulated?

Yes... Dat my poing.
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Reply #17 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:22pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
chimera wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 12:41pm:
While some people don't believe in Confucius or that Xi was elected by rigged voting machines, those born in Biden's time may not. History proves that propaganda is circular and the incumbent chairman is not.
North is definite on that point.


Zuby is correct. The Chinese cherish their inability to choose their leaders as a virtue. They value safety and security more than political freedom.

The "noble Han", as Aquascoot might say, is quite willing to accept authoritarianism and all that comes with it in return for the economic benefits.

The job, the apartment, the motorscooter, the health care, the pension, the consumer economy.

Or as Aquascoot would say, the accoutrements of the chode, who lives a  life of pure garbage.

Hey - Zuby stole Aquascoot's ideas.



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Reply #18 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:28pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The Chinese cherish their inability to choose their leaders as a virtue. They value safety and security more than political freedom.

This segues into the reactions of victims of the floods in Henan.

A Chinese journalist (located in the US) was moved to tears by the passivity of the victims who were caught in the tunnel on the trains. She could see that they were passive even when facing their own imminent deaths. As she observed, they had been so indoctrinated that the regime always 'had their backs' that they believed it would save them to the point that they did nothing to save themselves.

You might also note how many spectators stood by taking videos of the unfolding disaster instead of helping the drowning victims.

It's now estimated that probably thousands drowned in the floods
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Reply #19 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:33pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The "noble Han", as Aquascoot might say, is quite willing to accept authoritarianism and all that comes with it in return for the economic benefits.

The meaning of scoot's life is Xi.
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Reply #20 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:35pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:08pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:04pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:02pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 12:58pm:
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5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.

This is a stupid, meaningless statement. Anything and everything is pretty smacking all-encompassing, and the way its worded, apparently the only people that don't politicize things are those who don't trust the government, which is demonstrably false.


Oh, I don't know. Who would have ever thought a world leader would turn medical masks in a pandemic into an identity issue?

I guess it didn't help that wearing masks in public was seen as an 'Asian thing'.


Exactly. An Asian thing implemented in their last SARS pandemic, but I doubt many Trump followers would be aware it was an Asian thing.

I'd bet they were (aware it was an Asian thing)... I think it was a worldwide perception of Asians for them to wear masks in public, and way before the last SARS pandemic.


It only became a perception for me when I went to Asia and saw them wearing masks. I doubt Trump's so-called rustbelt community had made that observation.

It's possible the burqa debate had an influence, Americans believing in showing their faces rather than hiding behind masks. But do you know? It's probably just the inconvenience. The anti-maskers turned their refusal to make the effort into a virtue.

This demonstrates Zuby's rules perfectly. It's the ultimate metaphor for everything Trump represented: toxic individualism, not giving a fuck, laziness as a patriotic virtue, infect or be infected, it's all good.
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Reply #21 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:42pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:35pm:
It only became a perception for me when I went to Asia and saw them wearing masks. I doubt Trump's so-called rustbelt community had made that observation.

It's possible the burqa debate had an influence, Americans believing in showing their faces rather than hiding behind masks. But do you know? It's probably just the inconvenience. The anti-maskers turned their refusal to make the effort into a virtue.

This demonstrates Zuby's rules perfectly. It's the ultimate metaphor for everything Trump represented: toxic individualism, not giving a fuck, laziness as a patriotic virtue.

Well, maybe... Although I don't know of anyone who didn't think it was an 'Asian thing' (before it wasn't)...

Even in the deep south, (maybe especially), even petty xenophobic stereotypes travel as memes at the speed of light.

That's also true throughout China... As white Africans will tell you, Chinese people are generally stunned to discover that a white person they meet may have an African passport.
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Reply #22 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:59pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:28pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The Chinese cherish their inability to choose their leaders as a virtue. They value safety and security more than political freedom.

This segues into the reactions of victims of the floods in Henan.

A Chinese journalist (located in the US) was moved to tears by the passivity of the victims who were caught in the tunnel on the trains. She could see that they were passive even when facing their own imminent deaths. As she observed, they had been so indoctrinated that the regime always 'had their backs' that they believed it would save them to the point that they did nothing to save themselves.

You might also note how many spectators stood by taking videos of the unfolding disaster instead of helping the drowning victims.

It's now estimated that probably thousands drowned in the floods


It's easy to read that into it from a distance, but possibly true. Older Chinese people lament the lack of social consciousness they see in recent generations, after economic reform. They say the China of their childhood is gone. Not only the rampant individualism and greed, but the lack of social responsibility that comes with this.

From one angle, all those "capitalist contradictions" Mao tried so hard to eradicate and purge have now come to define Modern China.

Whoops - Zuby must have stole Mao's ideas.
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Reply #23 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 2:25pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:59pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:28pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The Chinese cherish their inability to choose their leaders as a virtue. They value safety and security more than political freedom.

This segues into the reactions of victims of the floods in Henan.

A Chinese journalist (located in the US) was moved to tears by the passivity of the victims who were caught in the tunnel on the trains. She could see that they were passive even when facing their own imminent deaths. As she observed, they had been so indoctrinated that the regime always 'had their backs' that they believed it would save them to the point that they did nothing to save themselves.

You might also note how many spectators stood by taking videos of the unfolding disaster instead of helping the drowning victims.

It's now estimated that probably thousands drowned in the floods


It's easy to read that into it from a distance, but possibly true. Older Chinese people lament the lack of social consciousness they see in recent generations, after economic reform. They say the China of their childhood is gone. Not only the rampant individualism and greed, but the lack of social responsibility that comes with this.

From one angle, all those "capitalist contradictions" Mao tried so hard to eradicate and purge have now come to define Modern China.

Whoops - Zuby must have stole Mao's ideas.

Yes... Although you may have heard of 'evil uncles' and 'dancing grannies'?

They are the boys and girls who grew up during the Mao era and are now left with nothing other than Maoist ideology...

The 'evil uncles' wander round dobbing everyone in for anything, even posing as 'security' or 'police' as Mao had asked of them from when they were 5. The regime does nothing about them.

The 'dancing grannies' or 'dancing aunties' are weirdest and most ridiculous legacy of the Mao era when they were praised for singing certain songs and dancing in praise of the glorious Mao... On first sight they look like older women keeping fit by dancing to loud music... But after a while it's clear they're almost psychotic; trying to recreate their Maoist youth. They invade any open space at will and at any time of the day and night and blast discordant music to dance to. They have become hated by Chinese when they're trying to sleep as they'll turn up on a quiet road at 10PM and start up. The regime does nothing about them.

The post-Mao generations just want them all dead.

But, of course, the post-Mao generations are all one-child 'little emperors', so... There goes the neighbourhood 2.0.

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Reply #24 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 2:52pm
 
What's the guy's name? Zuby?
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Reply #25 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:00pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:59pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:28pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The Chinese cherish their inability to choose their leaders as a virtue. They value safety and security more than political freedom.

This segues into the reactions of victims of the floods in Henan.

A Chinese journalist (located in the US) was moved to tears by the passivity of the victims who were caught in the tunnel on the trains. She could see that they were passive even when facing their own imminent deaths. As she observed, they had been so indoctrinated that the regime always 'had their backs' that they believed it would save them to the point that they did nothing to save themselves.

You might also note how many spectators stood by taking videos of the unfolding disaster instead of helping the drowning victims.

It's now estimated that probably thousands drowned in the floods


It's easy to read that into it from a distance, but possibly true. Older Chinese people lament the lack of social consciousness they see in recent generations, after economic reform. They say the China of their childhood is gone. Not only the rampant individualism and greed, but the lack of social responsibility that comes with this.

From one angle, all those "capitalist contradictions" Mao tried so hard to eradicate and purge have now come to define Modern China.

Whoops - Zuby must have stole Mao's ideas.

Yes... Although you may have heard of 'evil uncles' and 'dancing grannies'?

They are the boys and girls who grew up during the Mao era and are now left with nothing other than Maoist ideology...

The 'evil uncles' wander round dobbing everyone in for anything, even posing as 'security' or 'police' as Mao had asked of them from when they were 5. The regime does nothing about them.

The 'dancing grannies' or 'dancing aunties' are weirdest and most ridiculous legacy of the Mao era when they were praised for singing certain songs and dancing in praise of the glorious Mao... On first sight they look like older women keeping fit by dancing to loud music... But after a while it's clear they're almost psychotic; trying to recreate their Maoist youth. They invade any open space at will and at any time of the day and night and blast discordant music to dance to. They have become hated by Chinese when they're trying to sleep as they'll turn up on a quiet road at 10PM and start up. The regime does nothing about them.

The post-Mao generations just want them all dead.

But, of course, the post-Mao generations are all one-child 'little emperors', so... There goes the neighbourhood 2.0.



Ah. No, I've only spoken to Chinese oldies in Australia who've been back and don't recognise the society they grew up in. None of them are pro-Mao, but they remember the sense of community China once had, along with a pragmatic sense of personal responsibility - making do with very little, but ensuring everybody got fed.

They now see China as a dog eat dog kind of place. You?
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Reply #26 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:05pm
 
chimera wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
What's the guy's name? Zuby?


He's a personal trainer who wrote a fitness book. It's Aquascoot's latest self-help fad.

Aquascoot's been going through a bit of a lull since the "noble Donald" fell from grace. Aquascoot's scrambling to find a new authoritarian to cling to.

Read Zuby's rules for the details.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
Ah. No, I've only spoken to Chinese oldies in Australia who've been back and don't recognise the society they grew up in. None of them are pro-Mao, but they remember the sense of community China once had, along with a pragmatic sense of personal responsibility - making do with very little, but ensuring everybody got fed.

They now see China as a dog eat dog kind of place. You?

They sound more like pre-Mao or those who were already adults during Mao's worst excesses.

Either that or they're from Hong Kong.

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Reply #28 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:08pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:05pm:
chimera wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
What's the guy's name? Zuby?


He's a personal trainer who wrote a fitness book. It's Aquascoot's latest self-help fad.

Aquascoot's been going through a bit of a lull since the "noble Donald" fell from grace. Aquascoot's scrambling to find a new authoritarian to cling to.

Read Zuby's rules for the details.

And watch for evidence of 'rules' 2, 4, 8 and 20 in his posts.

As he's a gullible fool, I'd advise him to be wary of those with small lists for life.
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Reply #29 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:35pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
They now see China as a dog eat dog kind of place. You?

I have been told that 'getting involved' with an issue in China is 'not done'.

Foreigners will tell you that Chinese people (probably more city than rural) will not assist someone in need of help for fear of being dragged into it by regime police who may even accuse the rescuer of causing or worsening the problem.

Apparently there was an infamous case in Nanjing of a man who assisted an old lady who was mugged; took her to hospital and paid for all her costs. When the regime could not find the perpetrator, they accused the 'good samaritan' of being the perpetrator. As the regime requires a 99.9% successful prosecution rate, the judge sided with the prosecution adding that he was swayed by his belief that only the perpetrator, driven by remorse, would help a victim; the man was convicted of assault and robbery.
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