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Chinas Trade bullying
Jul 25th, 2021 at 9:03am
 
No depths to which China will not sink
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Sunday Mail 25/07/21
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CHINA has shot itself in the foot.

Bullying on the industrial scale displayed by the Chinese has left them isolated and a target.

The Beijing Winter Olympics next year just got interesting after the latest cyber attack.

Far be it for western democracies to threaten a boycott but China’s intentions with Taiwan may alter that view.

If the CCP could have derailed Queensland’s 2032 Olympics bid they would have – it’s certain they were one of five countries who voted against Queensland – but the die was cast after IOC boss Thomas Bach said he would support only one city for 2032 and that was Brisbane.

Not content with trying to sabotage our meat, wine, fishing, coal and timber industries, now the Chinese are accusing us of neglect of the Great Barrier Reef.

Seriously? It’s a bit rich from a country that emits 30 per cent of the world’s global emissions and says its emissions will increase over the next decade, before they reach zero levels by 2060. That’s right. Zero emissions from China, the world’s most populous and concrete and steel hungry nation, by 2060. Of all the bullying, hectoring, mistruths and fantasy that emanates from China, the great global emissions hoax is the worst. Trying to lecture Australia on what impact global warming is having on the Great Barrier Reef is the height of arrogance. It’s like trying to tell Tiger Woods how to play golf. All because Australia led the charge to find out the origin of coronavirus. Did it come from a bat or a lab? Our motivation is to learn from it and ensure it doesn’t happen again. China’s lack of transparency and its obfuscation is all about saving face. China would rather save face, than save lives. It’s a terrible, regressive regime that will stop at nothing to hurt Australia. The great thing about China’s attack on Australia is that the rest of the world are not only awake to the tactics, but abhor the bullying. The other good thing is that Australian farmers have reacted swiftly and positively to China’s tariffs and are quickly diversifying away from that market.

What China doesn’t want to acknowledge in this fracas is that the cream will always rise to the top on the international trading stage. Australia has the best meat, lobsters, wine and coal in the world.

Other nations are queuing up to get a slice of that pie.

So China’s people freeze without our coal, eat goat instead of meat, and have to put up with reserve grade lobsters, timber and wine.

With UNESCO becoming woke it has taken the Australian Institute of Marine Science to allay fears about the Reef, citing significant increases in hard coral cover over the past two years.

The AIMS report looked at 53 reefs between Cooktown and the Whitsundays and found “moderate’’ hard cover coral had increased by 26 per cent.

This is at odds with UNESCO’s desire to put the Reef on the “endangered’’ list, which could hurt tourism.

Experts say the Reef has been given a breather over the past year with no big cyclones.

For China to so nakedly attempt to undermine Queensland tourism by pushing UNESCO to put the Reef on the “endangered’’ list, shows how far these people are prepared to go.

It’s as if they have a hit list on Australia and they are working their way through.

The great thing is that Prime Minister Scott Morrison has not backed down on any of the pandemic rhetoric aimed at China. Aussies won’t be bullied by anybody.

China needs to learn some manners before getting our respect back.
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Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:33pm
 
As in the imperial past, with China, other countries are expected to “tremble and obey”; tributaries to the ruler of “all under heaven”. To its leadership caste, China has always been the “middle kingdom”, the dominant country on Earth, with the “century of humiliation” an aberration to be expunged, even avenged. Thanks to globalisation, the whole world has become China’s neighbourhood; and thanks to Marxism-Leninism, the Chinese leadership’s overlord instincts have been reinforced.

The “14 grievances” against Australia that the Chinese embassy published last year: that Australia had blocked some Chinese investments; banned Huawei from sensitive national infrastructure; backed international law in the South China Sea; arced up against Chinese cyber attacks; and blocked Victorian participation in the contemporary version of an “unequal treaty”, the Belt and Road Initiative; all of them are replete with expectations that no self-respecting country could ever meet.

Yet it’s the West itself that’s done so much to empower the bully we now face; a strategic challenger that’s likely to prove a far stronger competitor than the old Soviet Union because, unlike Russia, it’s a first-rate economy with increasingly a military to match.

Most obviously, from the time president Bill Clinton auspiced its entry into the World Trade Organisation, China has made use of other countries’ investment and technology to expropriate their industrial base. To us, back then, it seemed a richer China would inevitably become a freer China. To the CCP, of course, a richer China would be a stronger China, with the added bonus of being able to bring economic as well as military pressure to bear on its adversaries.

Cheap consumer goods now no longer seem such a bargain in return for the hollowing out of the industries that were the foundation of our economic strength and technological edge.

The pandemic has brought home the extent to which even the US had become dependent on China for drugs and PPE; and in Australia’s case, we simply cannot afford to be so dependent on an economic partner that uses trade as a strategic weapon to be turned on and off like a tap. But this isn’t just a problem for a country like us with 30 per cent of its trade with China. Every business with Chinese intermediate goods in its supply chains is exposed to economic pressure, which naturally enough has created a vast lobby for Western governments to do nothing to alienate Beijing. Hence the politics of standing up to Beijing has become so fraught that no one is prepared to challenge the developing-country status of the world’s number one trading nation already and soon-to-be number one economy.

Still, if there’s to be one lasting legacy of the Trump presidency, it’s likely to be the new consensus in Washington for economic decoupling from China. But this will require a very different approach from Western businesses that have grown so accustomed to outsourcing to China so many of their inputs, and it will mean higher short-term costs – yet vital though it is, it’s only one factor in our strategic vulnerability.

Countries such as the US, Britain and Australia are moving at breakneck speed to decarbonise our economies. To us, saving the planet is more important than our own relative place in it – more important, for instance, than affordable and reliable power and preserving the jobs and industries that depend on it. Yet even assuming that human emissions are the key factor in climate, it’s a one-sided and ultimately futile struggle if the world’s biggest emitter by far is not involved.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/wolf-warrior-at-the-door/news-story/6d...

A key factor in the Beijing regime’s belligerence towards Taiwan is the palpable demonstration it provides that Chinese people can be both prosperous and free. It’s a real-life example of a genuine “democracy with Chinese characteristics”.
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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 5:46pm
 
China has always done that
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Reply #3 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 12:51am
 
Iron ore prices are still sky high and they are consuming cheap wine and 3rd grade lobsters for their trouble.

TAKE BACK AUSTRALIA FROM THE CHINESE starting with the port of Darwin to teach them a lesson.
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Reply #4 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 6:31am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 3:33pm:
As in the imperial past, with China, other countries are expected to “tremble and obey”; tributaries to the ruler of “all under heaven”. To its leadership caste, China has always been the “middle kingdom”, the dominant country on Earth, with the “century of humiliation” an aberration to be expunged, even avenged. Thanks to globalisation, the whole world has become China’s neighbourhood; and thanks to Marxism-Leninism, the Chinese leadership’s overlord instincts have been reinforced.

The “14 grievances” against Australia that the Chinese embassy published last year: that Australia had blocked some Chinese investments; banned Huawei from sensitive national infrastructure; backed international law in the South China Sea; arced up against Chinese cyber attacks; and blocked Victorian participation in the contemporary version of an “unequal treaty”, the Belt and Road Initiative; all of them are replete with expectations that no self-respecting country could ever meet.

Yet it’s the West itself that’s done so much to empower the bully we now face; a strategic challenger that’s likely to prove a far stronger competitor than the old Soviet Union because, unlike Russia, it’s a first-rate economy with increasingly a military to match.

Most obviously, from the time president Bill Clinton auspiced its entry into the World Trade Organisation, China has made use of other countries’ investment and technology to expropriate their industrial base. To us, back then, it seemed a richer China would inevitably become a freer China. To the CCP, of course, a richer China would be a stronger China, with the added bonus of being able to bring economic as well as military pressure to bear on its adversaries.

Cheap consumer goods now no longer seem such a bargain in return for the hollowing out of the industries that were the foundation of our economic strength and technological edge.

The pandemic has brought home the extent to which even the US had become dependent on China for drugs and PPE; and in Australia’s case, we simply cannot afford to be so dependent on an economic partner that uses trade as a strategic weapon to be turned on and off like a tap. But this isn’t just a problem for a country like us with 30 per cent of its trade with China. Every business with Chinese intermediate goods in its supply chains is exposed to economic pressure, which naturally enough has created a vast lobby for Western governments to do nothing to alienate Beijing. Hence the politics of standing up to Beijing has become so fraught that no one is prepared to challenge the developing-country status of the world’s number one trading nation already and soon-to-be number one economy.

Still, if there’s to be one lasting legacy of the Trump presidency, it’s likely to be the new consensus in Washington for economic decoupling from China. But this will require a very different approach from Western businesses that have grown so accustomed to outsourcing to China so many of their inputs, and it will mean higher short-term costs – yet vital though it is, it’s only one factor in our strategic vulnerability.

Countries such as the US, Britain and Australia are moving at breakneck speed to decarbonise our economies. To us, saving the planet is more important than our own relative place in it – more important, for instance, than affordable and reliable power and preserving the jobs and industries that depend on it. Yet even assuming that human emissions are the key factor in climate, it’s a one-sided and ultimately futile struggle if the world’s biggest emitter by far is not involved.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/wolf-warrior-at-the-door/news-story/6d...

A key factor in the Beijing regime’s belligerence towards Taiwan is the palpable demonstration it provides that Chinese people can be both prosperous and free. It’s a real-life example of a genuine “democracy with Chinese characteristics”.



I like most of what is written from the highlighted section there Frank

I cannot totally agree on the decarbonisation rhetoric in the last paragraph

It is obvious to me with China buying Volvo and majority stakes in land Rover Peugeot
With Tesla opening a massive factory in Guangdong
With China controlling 90% of the rare earth minerals and producing 90% of the batteries on Earth
And with a command and control economy

China is going to move to fully electric vehicles
And China is going to produce most of the world's fully electric vehicles
Decades in front of the rest of the world

And that is going to be such an enormous economic advantage

Similar to in Ford and Holden we're blazing ahead in Detroit

I mean how do you convert Australia to electric vehicles
It will be incredibly expensive and draining on the economy

All the authorities in China need to do
Is issued a decree that everybody will be driving an electric vehicle as of tomorrow and it will pretty much happen

That will clear the skies over the polluted cities

I also can't see how Australia can compete in manufacturing when we have completely shot themselves in the foot by having some of the dearest electricity prices on Earth

Time will tell I suppose

If the west is to rectify the situation
Literally billions of rather fat lazy and entitled unskilled people
Are going to have to completely turn their lives around

I'm not sure if that is possible
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Reply #5 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 7:38am
 
Quote Aquascoot:

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I like most of what is written from the highlighted section there Frank

I cannot totally agree on the decarbonisation rhetoric in the last paragraph

It is obvious to me with China buying Volvo and majority stakes in land Rover Peugeot
With Tesla opening a massive factory in Guangdong
With China controlling 90% of the rare earth minerals and producing 90% of the batteries on Earth
And with a command and control economy

China is going to move to fully electric vehicles
And China is going to produce most of the world's fully electric vehicles
Decades in front of the rest of the world


And that is going to be such an enormous economic advantage

Similar to in Ford and Holden we're blazing ahead in Detroit

I mean how do you convert Australia to electric vehicles
It will be incredibly expensive and draining on the economy

All the authorities in China need to do
Is issued a decree that everybody will be driving an electric vehicle as of tomorrow and it will pretty much happen

That will clear the skies over the polluted cities

I also can't see how Australia can compete in manufacturing when we have completely shot themselves in the foot by having some of the dearest electricity prices on Earth

Time will tell I suppose

If the west is to rectify the situation
Literally billions of rather fat lazy and entitled unskilled people
Are going to have to completely turn their lives around

I'm not sure if that is possible


It doesn't matter if they move to all electric vehicles.... they will remain one of the worlds biggest polluters ... because of their industrial base industries ... because of their rare earth mining ... because of their iron ore & coal consumption that drives their industry ... so there still won't be clear skies over their cities.

and because of the greed of blokes like Elon Musk
who should not be entertaining building Tesla factories in China.

and that situation has everything to do with Western Govts soft exploitive policies on China for the past 20 to 30 years.

Their territorial expansionism outside of China proper in the guise of global philanthropy has always been the old wolf in sheeps clothing.

They target poorer countries & carry out projects that are designed to have those countries influenced & controlled by an unpayable debt trap.

You should have a rethink as to the praise you heap on their so called ingenuity & achievement.

In the end bringing them in from the cold will be to our detriment.

Oh yes... & we are full tilt down the renewables path & our electricity prices are so high?

How come? that's supposed to make it cheaper.

It never will.  Coal fired power is still our cheapest option.
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