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Jul 24th, 2021 at 9:27pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 24th, 2021 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Gay married men have no sons from their gay marriage.


My gay married friends offspring's biological mother begat ( if we can stretch that ancient term) their offspring after becoming pregnant first to one gay male parent, then the other.
She has frequent contact with both offspring being regarded as a member of the family. And no, it wasn’t via any form of artificial insemination.
Too queer for you darling? I wonder then how you view artificial insemination and donated embryos now so popular with infertile heterosexuals?


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Gay is a late luxury, tolerated but still unnatural. It is an aberration and should be treated, tolerated as an aberration. It could obviously not be the norm.


May I suggest you acquaint yourself with more of our species history?

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But you are not like your mum and dad. You are a dead end. You could not produce even you.


I suppose you could describe my reproductive history as a dead end after a one night stand long ago with a young Vietnamese student. At the time I didn’t know I’d gotten her ‘up the duff’ until she returned home and told me she was pregnant, later on giving birth to a son. However the Vietnamese war put an end to that connection. When all contact was broken I learnt her village had been napalmed by Americans not caring too much which ‘gook’ village, North or South, they destroyed. An abiding dislike of US hoons has remained with me ever since.
What is the point I’m trying to make here? Simply that your simplistic view of the world is just that.  

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Homosexuality, apart from everything else, is a decadent self-indulgence of the me-me-me.  It's a dreadful narcissistic self-centredness. A lot is made of its sexual incontinence but it is really a moral incontinence, a moral inability.


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Returning to the original topic of this thread - I’m reading a strange little collection of short stories by an Oz author Jon Cleary ’These Small Glories’ (Publ’ Angus & Robertson LTD.1946)
I don’t think I’ll get very far due to him consistently referring to anyone not Anglo-Saxon as ‘WOGS’.
Wikipedia tells us "He was a regular churchgoer, attending Mass every Sunday." HMM!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Cleary



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Homosexual ########## Frank needs to co-mod with Bobby a gay sub-forum

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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 12:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2021 at 9:27pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 24th, 2021 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Gay married men have no sons from their gay marriage.


My gay married friends offspring's biological mother begat ( if we can stretch that ancient term) their offspring after becoming pregnant first to one gay male parent, then the other.
She has frequent contact with both offspring being regarded as a member of the family. And no, it wasn’t via any form of artificial insemination.
Too queer for you darling? I wonder then how you view artificial insemination and donated embryos now so popular with infertile heterosexuals?


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Gay is a late luxury, tolerated but still unnatural. It is an aberration and should be treated, tolerated as an aberration. It could obviously not be the norm.


May I suggest you acquaint yourself with more of our species history?

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But you are not like your mum and dad. You are a dead end. You could not produce even you.


I suppose you could describe my reproductive history as a dead end after a one night stand long ago with a young Vietnamese student. At the time I didn’t know I’d gotten her ‘up the duff’ until she returned home and told me she was pregnant, later on giving birth to a son. However the Vietnamese war put an end to that connection. When all contact was broken I learnt her village had been napalmed by Americans not caring too much which ‘gook’ village, North or South, they destroyed. An abiding dislike of US hoons has remained with me ever since.
What is the point I’m trying to make here? Simply that your simplistic view of the world is just that.  

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Homosexuality, apart from everything else, is a decadent self-indulgence of the me-me-me.  It's a dreadful narcissistic self-centredness. A lot is made of its sexual incontinence but it is really a moral incontinence, a moral inability.


Have you the slightest idea what it is you’re inadvertently telling us about yourself here?
 
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Returning to the original topic of this thread - I’m reading a strange little collection of short stories by an Oz author Jon Cleary ’These Small Glories’ (Publ’ Angus & Robertson LTD.1946)
I don’t think I’ll get very far due to him consistently referring to anyone not Anglo-Saxon as ‘WOGS’.
Wikipedia tells us "He was a regular churchgoer, attending Mass every Sunday." HMM!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Cleary



From another thread which shouldn't be clogged by this.



My apologies, I have no idea why this post ended up here. Besides, it’s a discussion I suspect has now gone as far as it can. Additionally nobody is going to have their perspective altered by either side.
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https://www.abc.net.au/religion/marriage-equality-or-the-destruction-of-differen...

Marriage equality or the destruction of difference?
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Not another poofter thread?
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When, at the Reformation, the idea of marriage as a sacrament was discarded, the Protestant churches retained the power to "consecrate" the unions of their members. It was probably not until the French Revolution that the State declared itself to be the true broker and undoer of marriages, though neither the Catholic nor the Protestant church has ever accepted this as doctrine or afforded its comforts to those who view their marriages as purely civil affairs.

Since then, however, we have experienced a steady de-sacralisation of the marriage tie. It is not merely that marriage is governed now by a secular law - that has been the case since Antiquity. It is that this law is constantly amended, not in order to perpetuate the idea of an existential commitment, but on the contrary to make it possible for commitments to be evaded, and agreements rescinded, by rewriting them as the terms of a contract. What was once a socially endorsed change of status has become a private and reversible deal.
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Underlying that argument is a conception of equality that is having an ever-increasing influence over legal reasoning and social practices in our time, and that is undermining and destroying every institution that human beings have erected in order to defend and perpetuate difference. Equality no longer means - as it ought to mean - the equal opportunity to participate in the benefits of society. Instead, it means the removal of all forms of social difference, all the ways in which people have tried to define and maintain institutions and paths through life that require something more than mere humanity of their members.

Already, all our institutions and all employment contracts must conform to principles of "non-discrimination," providing open-ended lists of the differences between people that must be discounted if the law is to permit things to continue. The idea of an institution whose benefit depends precisely on emphasizing sexual difference begins to look like an offence against the first principles of social order.

However, the argument from "non-discrimination" is deeply flawed. For it assumes that the institution of marriage has been only accidentally connected to its social function - the function of passing on social capital from one generation to the next. It assumes that an institution, in which absent generations are essentially involved, can be endlessly amended for the sake of the living and without reference to the unborn and the dead (to use the terms bequeathed to us by Burke). To put it another way: marriage is an arrangement whose beneficiaries, in the normal case, exist only after it and because of it.
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Reply #6 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm
 
@Frank,

Do you want me to move this thread or are you Ok with it here in Philosophy?

I am OK with it here.
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Reply #7 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 7:30pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm:
@Frank,

Do you want me to move this thread or are you Ok with it here in Philosophy?

I am OK with it here.

Leave it here, I am interested in the moral, philosophical aspects of the subject.
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Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2021 at 7:37pm
 
Male homosexuals have a deeply misogynistic take on the world which they want to elevate to 'equality' with the obviously and essentially heterosexual nature of all mammals.

Gay ideology ignores and repudiates and then rejects the obvious nature of humanity in order to elevate the rejecters to the level of the affirmers of male and female complementarity.



If straight males made fun of women as drag 'queens' do, they would be up for prosecution. But gays, claiming victimhood for themselves, can despise and ridicule women many of whom will clap on just to be 'inclusive, even as they are ridiculed and excluded themselves.

Imagine anyone making fun of gays as drag queens make fun of women and the idea of being a women. There would be law suits and indignation. But making fun of gays? it's hate!!!

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Reply #9 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 8:11am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 7:37pm:
Male homosexuals have a deeply misogynistic take on the world which they want to elevate to 'equality' with the obviously and essentially heterosexual nature of all mammals.

Gay ideology ignores and repudiates and then rejects the obvious nature of humanity in order to elevate the rejecters to the level of the affirmers of male and female complementarity.



If straight males made fun of women as drag 'queens' do, they would be up for prosecution. But gays, claiming victimhood for themselves, can despise and ridicule women many of whom will clap on just to be 'inclusive, even as they are ridiculed and excluded themselves.

Imagine anyone making fun of gays as drag queens make fun of women and the idea of being a women. There would be law suits and indignation. But making fun of gays? it's hate!!!


Where to start with that mess of delusion and denial? Maybe you should view the character Mr Humphries in ‘Are You Being Served” and if that doesn’t get through the thick layer of ignorance you’re infected with continue your research viewing ‘Little Britain’.

Obviously heterosexual nature of mammals? Seriously, what planet do you live on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Gay ideology? There are so many totally different kinds of sexuality, not just gay, that to suggest there’s a single ‘ideology’ adhered to by gays in general is so completely out of touch with reality I wonder what planet you’re living on.

And by the way, where do you place human female/female romantic relationships? Probably in the porn you get off on.

As to victimhood you’re on the right path to creating victims yourself. Your ignorance of the deep and lasting friendships many gay men have with women is something you’d never have experienced so I suppose we can’t blame you for complete unfamiliarity with such relationships.

Underneath all of this is the idea gay and heterosexual males are totally separate kinds of creatures. May I suggest you research male/male sexual interaction in war zones and in prisons and see how you then categorise those involved?
http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-secret-history-of-sexuality-on-the-front-20121220-2bp9m.html


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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 8:32am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 7:30pm:
Super Nova wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm:
@Frank,

Do you want me to move this thread or are you Ok with it here in Philosophy?

I am OK with it here.

Leave it here, I am interested in the moral, philosophical aspects of the subject.

Well, that takes us back to ancient Greek philosophy, or should I say some very ‘queer' philosophers. Although we need to keep in mind the ancient Greeks didn't think of sexual orientation as a ’type' as modern Western societies do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece
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Reply #11 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 12:17pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 8:32am:
Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 7:30pm:
Super Nova wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 5:49pm:
@Frank,

Do you want me to move this thread or are you Ok with it here in Philosophy?

I am OK with it here.

Leave it here, I am interested in the moral, philosophical aspects of the subject.

Well, that takes us back to ancient Greek philosophy, or should I say some very ‘queer' philosophers. Although we need to keep in mind the ancient Greeks didn't think of sexual orientation as a ’type' as modern Western societies do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece



Ancient societies were dependent in myriad ways on slavery, and women were often kept in sexual servitude to the men who had captured or purchased them. But already in Homer we encounter quite another relation between man and woman, for which the word gamos, marriage, is reserved. In the Greek marriage the woman was a free partner in a monogamous and in principle lifelong relation, which had the oikos or household as its goal, and that household was not some domestic confinement but the site and foundation of social and economic activity. In this sense marriage in principle was freedom from pure servitude, enshrining as it did distinct roles and responsibilities in the care of children and the constitution of the family. The definition and maintenance of this institution was from the earliest times a concern of the polis, the city state, and although the gods took an interest in marriages, as they took an interest in just about everything, the institution was regarded as of human rather than divine provenance.

The Romans adopted a similar conception, and placed the monogamous marriage at the heart of their legal and political order, conferring on it the name - matrimonium - that recognised the centrality of motherhood in the social order. The origin of the institution was undoubtedly religious, and involved the worship of ancestors and the sanctity of the hearth. But it was incorporated into the civil law so as to acquire a purely secular definition, because it had so many self-evident secular benefits. In due course the Roman civil marriage was Christianised, to become one of seven sacraments recognised by the medieval Church. And although Protestants reject the belief in marriage as a sacrament, the Anglican Church retains the expression "Holy Matrimony" in which the historical experience of Western civilisation is perpetuated.

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Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 9:55pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 12:17pm:
Ancient societies were dependent in myriad ways on slavery, and women were often kept in sexual servitude to the men who had captured or purchased them. But already in Homer we encounter quite another relation between man and woman, for which the word gamos, marriage, is reserved. In the Greek marriage the woman was a free partner in a monogamous and in principle lifelong relation, which had the oikos or household as its goal, and that household was not some domestic confinement but the site and foundation of social and economic activity. In this sense marriage in principle was freedom from pure servitude, enshrining as it did distinct roles and responsibilities in the care of children and the constitution of the family. The definition and maintenance of this institution was from the earliest times a concern of the polis, the city state, and although the gods took an interest in marriages, as they took an interest in just about everything, the institution was regarded as of human rather than divine provenance.

The Romans adopted a similar conception, and placed the monogamous marriage at the heart of their legal and political order, conferring on it the name - matrimonium - that recognised the centrality of motherhood in the social order. The origin of the institution was undoubtedly religious, and involved the worship of ancestors and the sanctity of the hearth. But it was incorporated into the civil law so as to acquire a purely secular definition, because it had so many self-evident secular benefits. In due course the Roman civil marriage was Christianised, to become one of seven sacraments recognised by the medieval Church. And although Protestants reject the belief in marriage as a sacrament, the Anglican Church retains the expression "Holy Matrimony" in which the historical experience of Western civilisation is perpetuated.


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The point is, Frank is homosexual and he is coming for your arse.
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Why do such ideas even cross your mind?
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