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China will rule the world. It's over for the West! (Read 6004 times)
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Reply #90 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:13am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:38am:
In China, the law is that women are equal to men in every way - the reality is that they are not, and remain largely in the sphere of 'homemaker' or 25yo+ 'leftover woman'... also to add to this mix, given that these 'leftover women' who often are in the top bracket in many ways, find it impossible to have an 'illegitimate' child.  The law is that such children will not be adversely treated - but the reality is that they can and usually are refused healthcare and education and so forth, and the same can happen to their mothers.

Essentially these children and sometimes their mothers can instantly become Uncitizens..... contrast that with the West where we have laissez-faire breeding programs sponsored by government... or at the very least we ensure that children from any source get a fair go.

Remember that little blurb about the mess hall at Guantanamo Bay?  It's not in the manual, the nation just kind of follows the crowd - written rules v culture, innit?

For such a 'superior' culture, Middle Kingdomese is very, very backward in many ways.  No wonder the high class play wants to leave town....  Shocked

That is almost exactly the sentiment that foreigners (who have lived in China) report.

There is no rule of law, only 'law rule' which party officials are generally immune to. The regime's police and security personnel operate under a 'grey zone' meaning many 'laws' broken are generally ignored... Until they're not. Then they clamp down out of the blue. This is where foreigners get caught up in the regime's Orwellian dystopian system. Sometimes the issue stems from a political stouch the regime is having with the foreigners' country of origin (e.g. right now being American, Canadian or Australian could land you in jail for the most minor of offences or no offence committed at all).

The regime prefers to blame the 'spreading of rumours' or the 'causing a nuisance' on foreigners wherever it can. And the penalties for even minor offences can be as severe as anything Stalinism and Nazism might have applied.

The regime does not care much more for Chinese nationals, of course, and nationals can be harrassed wherever they are in the world if they, say, criticise the regime. If these 'regime detractors' cannot be got to directly, their families will be harrassed and disenfranchised of rights. Their relatives can lose their jobs, be expelled from educational institutes, detained, arrested, tortured and jailed.

Any opportunity by apparatchiks can be used to discriminate against ethnic minorities, migrant workers, illegitimate children, foreigners or those who otherwise fall foul of the regime.

The regime operates like the Mafia than a government.
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Reply #91 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm
 
Remarkable similarities with Stalinism and Nazism...

Good to see someone who understands these things - most have no idea and either consider posts around them to be verbose or in the realm of 'absent minded professor' - a title I've worn proudly for many years.
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Reply #92 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 1:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm:
Remarkable similarities with Stalinism and Nazism...

Good to see someone who understands these things - most have no idea and either consider posts around them to be verbose or in the realm of 'absent minded professor' - a title I've worn proudly for many years.

From what I'm told, foreigners visiting or working in China are lulled into this sense that everything is 'easy going' in China.

What they don't know is that they're being watched by the regime and reported on by random people for any hint of being anti-regime.

Foreigners often speak freely (as they would in their own country) in bars and restaurants or anywhere in public not realising that some may speak their language and are recording them or taking notes or pictures. They also generally don't know that most Chinese have been taught to act on xenophobic instincts and keep an eye on foreigners, entertain them even, and watch for signs they may be 'spies' or 'undercover reporters'.

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Reply #93 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 8:33pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 1:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm:
Remarkable similarities with Stalinism and Nazism...

Good to see someone who understands these things - most have no idea and either consider posts around them to be verbose or in the realm of 'absent minded professor' - a title I've worn proudly for many years.

From what I'm told, foreigners visiting or working in China are lulled into this sense that everything is 'easy going' in China.

What they don't know is that they're being watched by the regime and reported on by random people for any hint of being anti-regime.

Foreigners often speak freely (as they would in their own country) in bars and restaurants or anywhere in public not realising that some may speak their language and are recording them or taking notes or pictures. They also generally don't know that most Chinese have been taught to act on xenophobic instincts and keep an eye on foreigners, entertain them even, and watch for signs they may be 'spies' or 'undercover reporters'.




Stalinism to a T... a watcher in the pay of the KGB on every street corner.
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Reply #94 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 2:43pm
 
Kurt  Vonnegut saw it all, 50 years ago!


Western civilization is nearing collapse as oil runs out, and the Chinese are making vast leaps forward by miniaturizing themselves and training groups of hundreds to think as one. Eventually, the miniaturization proceeds to the point that they become so small that they cause a plague among those who accidentally inhale them, ultimately destroying Western civilization beyond repair.


Slapstick, 1976.
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Reply #95 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 3:12pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 2:43pm:
Kurt  Vonnegut saw it all, 50 years ago!


Western civilisation is nearing collapse as oil runs out, and the Chinese are making vast leaps forward by miniaturising themselves and training groups of hundreds to think as one. Eventually, the miniaturisation proceeds to the point that they become so small that they cause a plague among those who accidentally inhale them, ultimately destroying Western civilisation beyond repair.
Slapstick, 1976.

Given Vonnegut’s usually mangled expression we can’t be sure what the hell he was predicting.
Ok, I know Covid conspiracy theorists believe we’re being injected with microchips along with the vaccine but inhaling them? HUH?
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Reply #96 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:27pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 2:43pm:
Kurt  Vonnegut saw it all, 50 years ago!


Western civilization is nearing collapse as oil runs out, and the Chinese are making vast leaps forward by miniaturizing themselves and training groups of hundreds to think as one. Eventually, the miniaturization proceeds to the point that they become so small that they cause a plague among those who accidentally inhale them, ultimately destroying Western civilization beyond repair.


Slapstick, 1976.

Given western and colonial empires had been hand-wringing about the Yellow Peril since the 19th century, more like Kurt was not so much prescient than on the absinthe.
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Reply #97 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 6:51pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 3:12pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 2:43pm:
Kurt  Vonnegut saw it all, 50 years ago!


Western civilisation is nearing collapse as oil runs out, and the Chinese are making vast leaps forward by miniaturising themselves and training groups of hundreds to think as one. Eventually, the miniaturisation proceeds to the point that they become so small that they cause a plague among those who accidentally inhale them, ultimately destroying Western civilisation beyond repair.
Slapstick, 1976.

Given Vonnegut’s usually mangled expression we can’t be sure what the hell he was predicting.
Ok, I know Covid conspiracy theorists believe we’re being injected with microchips along with the vaccine but inhaling them? HUH?

For a vibrant, diverse type you are laughably blinkered and literalist.
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Reply #98 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 6:54pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 2:43pm:
Kurt  Vonnegut saw it all, 50 years ago!


Western civilization is nearing collapse as oil runs out, and the Chinese are making vast leaps forward by miniaturizing themselves and training groups of hundreds to think as one. Eventually, the miniaturization proceeds to the point that they become so small that they cause a plague among those who accidentally inhale them, ultimately destroying Western civilization beyond repair.


Slapstick, 1976.

Given western and colonial empires had been hand-wringing about the Yellow Peril since the 19th century, more like Kurt was not so much prescient than on the absinthe.

They had a long view and their warnings have been unheeded. Vonnegut sensed that, correctly.

Do note - the book is imaginative fiction. True like parables are true, not like climate change models or CCP pronounements/announcements.






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Reply #99 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 7:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 6:54pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 2:43pm:
Kurt  Vonnegut saw it all, 50 years ago!


Western civilization is nearing collapse as oil runs out, and the Chinese are making vast leaps forward by miniaturizing themselves and training groups of hundreds to think as one. Eventually, the miniaturization proceeds to the point that they become so small that they cause a plague among those who accidentally inhale them, ultimately destroying Western civilization beyond repair.


Slapstick, 1976.

Given western and colonial empires had been hand-wringing about the Yellow Peril since the 19th century, more like Kurt was not so much prescient than on the absinthe.

They had a long view and their warnings have been unheeded. Vonnegut sensed that, correctly.

Do note - the book is imaginative fiction. True like parables are true, not like climate change models or CCP pronounements/announcements.

Noted.

Absinthe stimulates the imagination... And subjectively colours the world yellow.
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China will rule the world?

Not a chance.

I'd bet the regime is in the process of reversing the entire Deng Xiaoping project...

It's the last desperate act of a regime that senses it's own destruction.

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Ah yes... How culturally generational memory fades!
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Reply #103 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 8:09pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 10:53pm:
China will rule the world?

Not a chance.

I'd bet the regime is in the process of reversing the entire Deng Xiaoping project...

It's the last desperate act of a regime that senses it's own destruction.


I wish. However, never underestimate the power of nation wide communal delusion. Remember Nazi Germany if you need an illustration.
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Reply #104 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 11:07am
 
"Beijing has accused the UK of still living in its “colonial days”."

That is the nature of China's policy. Taiwan was tribal until the Dutch colonised it and then China's Qing Empire held the colony 1683-1895. It's been independent since, with Chinese population. China's colonial push now is ethnic to keep all the Han race in 1 land as in Hitler's German racial lands.  In India, China is starting to have non-Chinese ethnic territory which is a true colonial policy.
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