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Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data
Reply #105 - Aug 1^st, 2021 at 3:16pm

BTW - Why do even modellers say that they are projection too warm?

"But as climate scientists face this alarming reality, the climate models that help them project the future have grown a little too alarmist. Many of the world’s leading models are now projecting warming rates that most scientists, including the modelmakers themselves, believe are implausibly fast."

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"Already scientific papers are appearing using CMIP’s unconstrained worst-case scenarios for 2100, adding fire to what are already well-justified fears. But that practice needs to change, Schmidt says. “You end up with numbers for even the near-term that are insanely scary—and wrong.”

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07/un-climate-panel-confronts-implausibly-h...

That's Gavin Schmidt, co-author of the paper you touted. Wink

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Reply #106 - Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 6:46am

They look pretty good so far:

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You have already said that the corrections are smaller than the uncertainties, You tell us.

No I haven't. Why do climate "skeptics" lie so habitually?

Do you understand that it is a lie to insist your temperature measurements are correct because you can find a completely unrelated error bar that is bigger than one of their mistakes?

Would you like to have another go at telling us which of the various measurements of atmospheric temperatures from satellites, if any, you think are correct?

You lied when you said you were capable of explaining how to measure atmospheric temperature with a satellite. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

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Reply #107 - Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 11:19am

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 6:46am:

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You have already said that the corrections are smaller than the uncertainties, You tell us.

No I haven't. Why do climate "skeptics" lie so habitually?

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 7:41am:

Lee, do you understand that a measurement is not "correct" merely because you can google an unrelated uncertainty bar bigger than the amount they change their mind by?

You are just trolling. All has been explained. You don't want to know. We understand that because you "believe". You can't even read the "science" that I gave from the paper referred to y NASA. Grin

The liar is you.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47316 At my desk.	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #108 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 6:59am Do you know what the uncertainty is on your satellite "measurements" of atmospheric temperature? Or are you full of crap?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16397 Gender:	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #109 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 12:03pm freediver wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 6:59am: Do you know what the uncertainty is on your satellite "measurements" of atmospheric temperature? Yes and so do you. You told us you did.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47316 At my desk.	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #110 - Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:41am What is it Lee? Or are you full of crap?
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #111 - Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:58am Measurements, shmeasurements already. Reality will soon grab you all by the balls anyway.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16397 Gender:	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #112 - Aug 4^th, 2021 at 11:22am Measurements, without adjustments, are reality. The rest is "feelings".
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47316 At my desk.	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #113 - Aug 5^th, 2021 at 6:35am They make regular "adjustments" to the satellite measurements of atmospheric temperature that you keep bringing up. Are you trying to disown your own BS now Lee?
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #114 - Aug 5^th, 2021 at 10:50am Those of you who imagine climate change is a delusion need read no further :- https://link.newyorker.com/view/5d87c528283d8e22f8320025eod5h.u8x/a2b64a1f
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Reply #115 - Aug 5^th, 2021 at 11:05am

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

They make regular "adjustments" to the satellite measurements of atmospheric temperature that you keep bringing up.

poor petal. Just doesn't understand satellites. These orbiting satellites are not geostationary. Wink

But he otherwise believes adjustments such as BoM does from 100 years ago are better than ok. Grin

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47316 At my desk.	Re: Climate “skeptics” lie: measured temperature data Reply #116 - Aug 7^th, 2021 at 8:03am Were the satellite measurements of atmospheric temperature correct before or after the adjustments Lee? And why are you so fond of posting the older "measurements"?
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