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May 13th, 2021 at 8:56pm
 
The name says it all can any of the useful idiots like John Smith, Brian Ross or little pecca who throw the slur of islamophbia at critics of Islam with the intent of silencing criticism of Islam much like the global blasphemy law muslims have been pushing in the UN tell us what Islamic Jihad is does it have anything to do with Islam?

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Into the early hours of Wednesday morning, Gazans reported their homes shaking and the sky lighting up with Israeli attacks, outgoing rockets fired by Hamas and Islamic Jihad,and Israeli air defence missiles intercepting them.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-rocket-fire-israeli-air-st...


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Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine


The Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine (Arabic: حركة الجهاد الإسلامي في فلسطين‎, Harakat al-Jihād al-Islāmi fi Filastīn), known in the West as simply Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), is a Damascus-based Palestinian Islamist organization formed in 1981. PIJ together with Hamas and six other factions are members of the Alliance of Palestinian Forces, which rejects the Oslo Accords and whose objective is the establishment of a sovereign Islamic Palestinian state.[2]PIJ rejects a two-state solution and promotes the military destruction of Israel.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Jihad_Movement_in_Palestine


More news reports of Hamas and Islamic Jihad here which is something the Islamic apologists in this forum support.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=hamas+and+islamic+jihad&source=hp&ei=XQOdYOLx...

The muslims can't even pronounce Palestine how can it be their country when they can't even say it's name? Muslims call Palestine filistin which is a Hebrew word for invader.  Cheesy
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Reply #1 - May 13th, 2021 at 9:03pm
 
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Tensions Rise In Middle East As One Side Wants To Kill Jews And The Other Side Are Jews Who Don't Want To Die And Neither Will Compromise


JERUSALEM—Israel has tried to get along with Palestine and other neighboring countries, but a core disagreement between the two groups has increased tensions and made peace seem impossible. For many in the Middle East, what they want most of all is to kill Jews -- which they see as a reasonable request. But a majority of Israel is made up of Jews who, first and foremost, do not want to be killed. And neither side is willing to compromise on these desires.

“We’re a simple people with a simple desire,” explained Bob Hamas, Palestinian founder of Hamas. “We just want to kill the Jews. We’re not dead set on how. Stabbings. Gunshots. Explosions. Pushing them into the sea. Any of those are fine with us, but Israel won’t allow any of those. Not even strangling. It’s keeping us from living our truth.”

Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel and a “you can’t murder Jews” extremist, explained that from his point of view it was Hamas that was being unreasonable. “We just don’t want people to kill us, you know,” he said. “It’s the number one thing people say to me: ‘Hey, Ben, make sure no one murders us.’ And I know this throws cold water on what a lot of people out there want, but I am not moving from this position. No killing the Jews.”

Compromises have been attempted, but so far both sides have rejected them. When the “Kill the Jews” side was asked if maybe they could just beat up the Jews, they were adamant that only killing Jews would make them happy. And Israel, which has faced a lot of international pressure to allow some of their people to be murdered, has remained equally adamant in wanting no murder whatsoever.

“We just want peace between us,” said Bob Hamas. “I mean peace with some murder. A lot of murder. But it always seems like an unattainable dream.”

https://babylonbee.com/news/tensions-rise-in-middle-east-as-one-side-wants-to-ki...
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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2021 at 9:07pm
 
Muhammad tried to pass himself off as a Prophet in the jewish religion he adopted many dietry and dress regulations from them even fasted on the day of atonement. The jews rejected Muhammad as a Prophet which resulted in Muhammad preaching hatred of the jews.

There will never be peace between muslims and the jews Islamic ideology doesn't allow it.

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Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying

The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922
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Reply #4 - May 13th, 2021 at 10:47pm
 
Gaza was controlled by Egypt up to 1967 when they lost it to Israel in the 6 day war.

When was it controlled by Palestine perhaps Egypt should take it back.

When Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians it was almost like watching Ali Baba and the 40 thieves.

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Looters strip Gaza greenhouses


Sept. 14, 2005

Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip.

American Jewish donors had bought more than 3,000 greenhouses from Israeli settlers in Gaza for $14 million last month and transferred them to the Palestinian Authority. Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, who brokered the deal, put up $500,000 of his own cash.

Palestinian police stood by helplessly Tuesday as looters carted off materials from greenhouses in several settlements, and commanders complained they did not have enough manpower to protect the prized assets. In some instances, there was no security and in others, police even joined the looters, witnesses said.

“We need at least another 70 soldiers. This is just a joke,” said Taysir Haddad, one of 22 security guards assigned to Neve Dekalim, formerly the largest Jewish settlement in Gaza.“We’ve tried to stop as many people as we can, but they’re like locusts.”

The failure of the security forces to prevent scavenging and looting in the settlements after Israel’s troop pullout Monday raised new concerns about Gaza’s future.

We are not going to tolerate chaos’
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas told his people in a televised speech Tuesday that he would take immediate steps to impose order. “We have one law for everyone and no one is above the law. We are not going to tolerate chaos after today,” he said.

The Palestinian leader is under intense pressure from his people and the international community to stop the growing lawlessness in Gaza, where rival militant groups are jockeying for power. As Abbas spoke, hundreds of masked Hamas gunmen wielding rifles and grenade launchers paraded through the streets of a nearby refugee camp.

The greenhouses are a centerpiece of Palestinian plans for rebuilding Gaza after 38 years of Israeli occupation. The Palestinian Authority hopes the high-tech greenhouses left by the Israelis will provide jobs and export income for Gaza’s shattered economy.

During a tour of Neve Dekalim, Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia implored Palestinians to leave the structures intact. “These greenhouses are for the Palestinian people,” he said. “We don’t want anyone to touch or harm anything that can be useful for our people.”


https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9331863



The jews were always more advanced than the muslims you're comparing a civilised society to backward barbarians.

How does appeasement work out for the jews?

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Ibn Umar reported that 'Umar b. al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) expelled the Jews and Christians from the land of Hijaz, and that when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) conquered Khaibar he made up his mind to expel the Jews from it (the territory of Khaibar) because, when that land was conquered, it came under the sway of Allah, that of His Messenger (ﷺ) and that of the Muslims. The jews asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to let them continue there on the condition that they would work on it, and would get in turn half of the fruit (of the trees), whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:

We would let you continue there so long as we will desire. So they continued (to cultivate the lands) till 'Umar externed them to Taima' ang Ariha (two villages in Arabia, but out of Hijaz).
https://sunnah.com/muslim:1551f
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2021 at 10:09am
 
The present situation stems from WW1, when the Turks and Germans tried to seize the Suez Canal, which was administered by the British in Egypt. The Turks were driven out or the Sainni and Palestine by mainly Australian Imperial Troops. At the time, the Arab and Jewish Palestinians coexisted more or less peacefully. The League of Nations and the British Government decided to allow European Jews to emigrate to the British captured territory. At first, the immigrants bought land off the locals and began to prosper. The Arabs had the opportunity to take part in another successful democratic Mediterranean country, but being Muzlums, they preferred going berserk.
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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2021 at 10:28am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
The name says it all can any of the useful idiots like John Smith, Brian Ross or little pecca who throw the slur of islamophbia at critics of Islam with the intent of silencing criticism of Islam much like the global blasphemy law muslims have been pushing in the UN tell us what Islamic Jihad is does it have anything to do with Islam?

How do you weave-in the issue of ultra-orthodox jews' determination to establish a greater Israel by illegally occupying Palestinian land and confiscation of their property to that end?
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2021 at 10:29am
 
issuevoter wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:09am:
The present situation stems from WW1, when the Turks and Germans tried to seize the Suez Canal, which was administered by the British in Egypt. The Turks were driven out or the Sainni and Palestine by mainly Australian Imperial Troops. At the time, the Arab and Jewish Palestinians coexisted more or less peacefully. The League of Nations and the British Government decided to allow European Jews to emigrate to the British captured territory. At first, the immigrants bought land off the locals and began to prosper. The Arabs had the opportunity to take part in another successful democratic Mediterranean country, but being Muzlums, they preferred going berserk.

And you.. How do you weave-in the issue of ultra-orthodox jews' determination to establish a greater Israel by illegally occupying Palestinian land and confiscation of their property to that end?
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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2021 at 10:36am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 9:09pm:
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Erdogan

Erdogan, in his drive for Islamic leadership, who criticises France for attempting to deal with its internal strife, but no mention of China's persecution of Uighur Muslims?

Or his stopping short of de-recognising Israel because it's not good for business?

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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2021 at 11:36am
 

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Into the early hours of Wednesday morning, Gazans reported their homes shaking and the sky lighting up with Israeli attacks, outgoing rockets fired by Hamas and Islamic Jihad,and Israeli air defence missiles intercepting them.

.....The International Committee of the Red Cross urged all sides to step back, and reminded them of the requirement in international law to try to avoid civilian casualties.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-rocket-fire-israeli-air-st...




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Hamas and Islamic Jihad, are targeting Israeli civilians living in civilian areas, within Israel proper,
with rockets which are being launched by Hamas and Islamic Jihad, from within civilian areas in Gaza.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad need to cease and stop these rocket attacks [coming from Gaza] !

And if they will not, then Israel has a natural right to, itself, stop these rocket attacks, even if they are being launched from within civilian areas in Gaza.

Israel can accomplish this [stop the rocket attacks which are targeting Israeli civilians in Israel], and Israel should to act, to do this.



Israel can't allow its own civilians to be targeted and killed, by Hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets,
without consequence to any Gazan's.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders, are the persons who will be responsible for any casualties, within Gaza.



We can predict, that many international actors will blame Israel for all of the casualties in this conflict.

But Israel must act in its own self defence.

And Israel has a right, to prevent and stop these rocket attacks,
EVEN IF THE ROCKET ATTACKS ORIGINATE FROM WITHIN CIVILIAN AREAS OF GAZA.



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Reply #10 - May 14th, 2021 at 2:50pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:29am:
issuevoter wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:09am:
The present situation stems from WW1, when the Turks and Germans tried to seize the Suez Canal, which was administered by the British in Egypt. The Turks were driven out or the Sainni and Palestine by mainly Australian Imperial Troops. At the time, the Arab and Jewish Palestinians coexisted more or less peacefully. The League of Nations and the British Government decided to allow European Jews to emigrate to the British captured territory. At first, the immigrants bought land off the locals and began to prosper. The Arabs had the opportunity to take part in another successful democratic Mediterranean country, but being Muzlums, they preferred going berserk.

And you.. How do you weave-in the issue of ultra-orthodox jews' determination to establish a greater Israel by illegally occupying Palestinian land and confiscation of their property to that end?


I'd weave it in with everything else since the Balfour Declaration, but I'd do it in chronological sequence, and I would not hesitate to include the Munich Massacre. The whinging Palestinian Muzlums could be taking part in a democracy today, but they believe in a failed tribal and religious system, and you couldn't talk to them about it, if you wanted to. Look at their heroes, Ghaddafi, Amin, bin Laden, Khomenie. Despots the lot of them, they claimed they would destroy Israel, and the Dumb-Phuque Palestinians believed them.

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Reply #11 - May 14th, 2021 at 4:07pm
 
I believe the Jews have every right to take whatever steps they believe they need take, to stabilize their enemies who surround them and outnumber them by 10s of 1,000,000s and have a *religious* satanical requirement to exterminate the Jews.
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Reply #12 - May 14th, 2021 at 4:29pm
 
Don't ya know.

Far right extremism is the bigger threat.

So says bwyannnnnnnnnn the moron and peccarhead the idiot.

Meanwhile, Islam murders, destroys and plans more atrocities.

Luckily, muzzos are so stupid, so useless and so moronic.
That even their planned attacks are lucky to kill one or two people.

The cult of death, Satan's cult, isn't doing real well, is it.

If they keep attacking the Jews, they might just find a huge nuke up their arses.
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Reply #13 - May 14th, 2021 at 5:37pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:29am:
issuevoter wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:09am:
The present situation stems from WW1, when the Turks and Germans tried to seize the Suez Canal, which was administered by the British in Egypt. The Turks were driven out or the Sainni and Palestine by mainly Australian Imperial Troops. At the time, the Arab and Jewish Palestinians coexisted more or less peacefully. The League of Nations and the British Government decided to allow European Jews to emigrate to the British captured territory. At first, the immigrants bought land off the locals and began to prosper. The Arabs had the opportunity to take part in another successful democratic Mediterranean country, but being Muzlums, they preferred going berserk.

And you.. How do you weave-in the issue of ultra-orthodox jews' determination to establish a greater Israel by illegally occupying Palestinian land and confiscation of their property to that end?


No need to. The reality is that Israel has created a liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth. If the Palestinians had any sense, they would want to be part of a greater Israel, like the Muslims who chose to live peacefully with the Jews inside Israel.

The Muslims on the other hand have created suffering and misery for 1400 years.
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Reply #14 - May 15th, 2021 at 12:07pm
 
issuevoter wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 2:50pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:29am:
issuevoter wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:09am:
The present situation stems from WW1, when the Turks and Germans tried to seize the Suez Canal, which was administered by the British in Egypt. The Turks were driven out or the Sainni and Palestine by mainly Australian Imperial Troops. At the time, the Arab and Jewish Palestinians coexisted more or less peacefully. The League of Nations and the British Government decided to allow European Jews to emigrate to the British captured territory. At first, the immigrants bought land off the locals and began to prosper. The Arabs had the opportunity to take part in another successful democratic Mediterranean country, but being Muzlums, they preferred going berserk.

And you.. How do you weave-in the issue of ultra-orthodox jews' determination to establish a greater Israel by illegally occupying Palestinian land and confiscation of their property to that end?


I'd weave it in with everything else since the Balfour Declaration, but I'd do it in chronological sequence, and I would not hesitate to include the Munich Massacre. The whinging Palestinian Muzlums could be taking part in a democracy today, but they believe in a failed tribal and religious system, and you couldn't talk to them about it, if you wanted to. Look at their heroes, Ghaddafi, Amin, bin Laden, Khomenie. Despots the lot of them, they claimed they would destroy Israel, and the Dumb-Phuque Palestinians believed them.


You're ignoring that fact that no peace talks have or will prevent the ultra-orthodox determination to create a greater Israel by confiscating Palestinian land. Israeli courts uphold the confiscation, so there is no redress for those whose home and land has been lost forever to illegal Israeli settlers.

And to speak of uber-religiosity as a Muslim thing? How do you extricate the ultra-orthodox Jews from the same practise such that uber-religiosity is only a Muslim thing?

Cognitive dissonance much?


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