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May 6^th, 2021 at 6:49am

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together

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Reply #3 - May 6^th, 2021 at 10:07am

ADFINSIDER wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 6:52am:

Some defense contractors Australia must keep an eye on.

Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
Honeywell
Dyncorp

I would have thought BAE to be top of that list They are running the majority of big Defence contracts, whilst the others are more sub contractors. BAE run JORN (Airforce) own Williamstown Dockyard, run Henderson Shiplift in WA and have big inputs into maintenance contracts for many platform types. I see them as the biggest danger

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Reply #4 - May 6^th, 2021 at 10:16am

Vic wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

ADFINSIDER wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 6:52am:

Some defense contractors Australia must keep an eye on.

Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
Honeywell
Dyncorp

I would have thought BAE to be top of that list They are running the majority of big Defence contracts, whilst the others are more sub contractors. BAE run JORN (Airforce) own Williamstown Dockyard, run Henderson Shiplift in WA and have big inputs into maintenance contracts for many platform types. I see them as the biggest danger

Hasn't BAE been convicted of bribery in the UK?

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Reply #5 - May 6^th, 2021 at 10:39am

Bobby. wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

Vic wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

ADFINSIDER wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 6:52am:

Some defense contractors Australia must keep an eye on.

Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
Honeywell
Dyncorp

I would have thought BAE to be top of that list They are running the majority of big Defence contracts, whilst the others are more sub contractors. BAE run JORN (Airforce) own Williamstown Dockyard, run Henderson Shiplift in WA and have big inputs into maintenance contracts for many platform types. I see them as the biggest danger

Hasn't BAE been convicted of bribery in the UK?

I believe they were under some form of cloud Bobby. They also have a huge input into British defence as well.

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Reply #6 - May 6^th, 2021 at 10:46am

Vic wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:39am:

I believe they were under some form of cloud Bobby. They also have a huge input into British defence as well.

They were crooks 11 years ago but have they changed?

BAE Will Pay $450 Million to Settle Long-Running Bribery Case

February 5, 2010

In a corruption case that has spanned multiple countries and more than two decades, BAE Systems, Britain's largest defense contractor, has pleaded guilty to two criminal charges and agreed to pay several hundred million dollars in penalties.

In settlements announced simultaneously in Washington and London, the defense giant and a major contractor to the Pentagon, agreed to pay $400 million in the U.S. and nearly $50 million in Britain.
BAE will plead guilty to conspiring to make false statements in its failure to comply with tough U.S. antibribery laws.

In charges brought by the U.S. Department of Justice, BAE will plead guilty to one count of conspiring to make false statements in its failure to comply with tough U.S. antibribery laws. The charge relates to a multibillion-dollar arms deal with Saudi Arabia, and smaller deals with the Czech Republic and Hungary.

The Justice Department delivered its most stinging criticism of BAE's efforts to undermine U.S. laws in criminal court documents released Friday. It accused the British manufacturer of "intentionally failing to put appropriate anti-bribery preventative measures in place," even though the company had assured the government it was taking significant new steps to meet the highest ethical standards.

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2010/02/bae-to-pay-more-than-400...

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