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Reply #30 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:24pm
 
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Its simply an industry.

They have nothing of worth to offer.

So they try to break down the truly successful white man.

We will endure, we always have, we have the skills, knowledge and fortitude to succeed.

The darkies have ..................................................stupidity.


Their downhill run began with the perkins booze bus in the 70s.

Since that time they have gone through the booze and drugs phase, the kids were molested to such an extent that federal intervention was necessary etc. etc..

After the 7os there was massive hate the whiteman sentiment, fueled by the leftwing.

The pre 70s aboriginals were vastly different to todays people.

The thing is we can get along together if there is no bullshit involved.

The answer is to get rid of the leftwing agenda in the aboriginal communities, let the kids from both sides live in harmony, stop the white blame game.

It's the aboriginal kids who are suffering from the sick leftards of the world.
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Reply #31 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:28pm
 
Those Aboriginal Men who hold onto the past and keep 'traditional' culture alive will do well.
Those Aboriginal Women who embrace the 'future' and step outside their Land and into the rest of the world will also do well.

'Traditional' culture (Pre-1788 culture) should be preserved and it will serve 'all' Australians well.

Only have to look at the recent WildFires that 'Whitey' still has a lot to learn from Aboriginal 'Traditional' culture.

...the modern aboriginal  'American Rap' culture is a bit of a wank though.  Roll Eyes
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Re: A real history of Aboriginal Australians
Reply #32 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:30pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 2:20pm:
Oh come off it freak

I have posted so many times about Pascoe and his lies, go look for yourself.

He is a pom
He has no aboriginal blood in him
He falsely claimed that his grandmother was an abbo , but when the people he allegedly belonged to were spoken to they denied his claim.
He has roots in England and absolutely ZERO true knowledge of aboriginal culture.

The man is a chronic liar.

Any idiot who believes anything he states or says is even more stupid than stupid.

But I guess as long as its pro abbo, you can say anything and get away with it.

Tell the truth about their propensity for DV, pedophilia, laziness or chronic unemployment and you are called a liar despite all the available evidence.

It all depends on what you want to hear.


It doesn't matter what we want to hear, dear, it matters what Pascoe says:

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Professor Pascoe has acknowledged his links are distant, writing in his latest essay collection Salt that “clinical analysis of genes says I’m more Cornish than Koori''.

“I am sure a lot of non-Aboriginal people think that pale-skinned Aboriginal people shouldn’t identify, especially when it goes back to great grandmothers and great grandfathers and I understand that,” Professor Pascoe told The Sunday Age.

“I think Australians have the right to know that Aboriginal people who claim to be Aboriginal are actually Aboriginal but I think that conversation needs to be a decent conversation.”

Professor Pascoe told The Sunday Age it seemed to be a “common ploy” to question the identity of Aboriginal people but the community he belonged to was “totally supportive”.

“If they decided you had to have a percentage of blood quantum to be declared an Aborigine or go on some sort of register (and) I wasn’t on it, my life wouldn't change at all because I am so deeply involved in the community and the community expect me to be involved,” he said.


But it also matters what the community says:

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The widely accepted definition of Indigenous heritage in Australia comprises three parts: self-identification, evidence of descent and community recognition.

Yuin elder, Pastor Ossie Cruse, questioned why Professor Pascoe’s Aboriginality was being disputed when he was accepted by his community.

“It does concern me because I don’t think anybody needs that, what’s the gain in it, particularly a person who has really had a hard life and found out they were of Aboriginal descent,” Pastor Cruse told The Sunday Age.


https://www.smh.com.au/national/bruce-pascoe-says-aboriginality-queries-an-attem...

But this is not the point. I don't care whether Pascoe's Aboriginal or not. The point is this, from the same article:

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“I am not saying Aboriginal people were like white farmers, what I am saying is they were engaged in a form of food production which is unlike hunting and gathering. We did hunt, we did gather, we still do,” Professor Pascoe said.


As Marcia Langton says, Pascoe has shown his references, he's made his case. There are no lies going on, just read the citations.

Now you, Matty, choose not to read. You can't even be bothered to come up with a source to make your case. And that's okay.

But all this leaves you is posts full of frothing hyperbole: "freak, stupid, liar, DV, pedophilia, laziness or chronic unemployment."

That's just a whole lot of words. It's not constructive, and it tells where you're posting from; your point.

Your point here is just to vomit on Aborigines. You couldn't care less about the issues or the debate, you just want to launch bile - an endless, bigoted diatribe with no actual substance or any knowledge of what you're discussing.

Me? I dont know either. Pascoe's written a book about traditional Aboriginal land management practices, and I think it's time we started to take the time to learn.

Deforestation, irrigation and phosphate farming have caused most of our agricultural land to go barren. It's not just me saying this, it's farmers themselves. Add global warming and we have more droughts, more bushfires, erosion, rivers turned dry and the near destruction of the Great Barrier Reef.

I think it's time we listened to those who looked after the place for 50,000 years, and I'm not alone. Plenty of farmers, scientists, agricultural associations and rural organisations agree. We'd like a nice, safe, happy country we can all live in, nor the angry, fucked up, racist one you're all about.

Why would I care if Pascoe's a Boong?


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Reply #33 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:30pm
 
...in the future, Whiteys will be the dumb primitive mass breeders. While the Darkies will have the responsibility of running the planet as a minority.

Media is a Black Nation now. They've colonised it like Whitey colonised their land. Now they can put on more TV series of Darkie Man seeding another Whitey Woman.  Cheesy
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Reply #34 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:44pm
 
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Only have to look at the recent WildFires that 'Whitey' still has a lot to learn from Aboriginal 'Traditional' culture.



The fires were caused by leftard / green bureaucracy stupidity, people were not allowed to burn off the undergrowth build up, resulting in massive bushfires.

Farmers are not allowed to run their own places, the stupid green left policy of bureaucracy will tell you when and how to burn is a failure.

Do you really think that the white man has learnt nothing in the last 10s of 1000s of years about farming, only the black man has?

Let the farmers do their job, piss the loony left bureaucrats off, they are the real dickheads in this scenario.

Colour doesn't discern who can and can't farm properly, obviously the white man must be fairly good, after all they are the worlds leaders in farming and feeding the world.

Get rid of the sicko lefties is the answer to so many problems the globe faces right now, not just the undergrowth buildup causing massive bushfires.
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:48pm
 
moses wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:44pm:
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Only have to look at the recent WildFires that 'Whitey' still has a lot to learn from Aboriginal 'Traditional' culture.



The fires were caused by leftard / green bureaucracy stupidity, people were not allowed to burn off the undergrowth build up, resulting in massive bushfires.

Farmers are not allowed to run their own places, the stupid green left policy of bureaucracy will tell you when and how to burn is a failure.

Do you really think that the white man has learnt nothing in the last 10s of 1000s of years about farming, only the black man has?

Let the farmers do their job, piss the loony left bureaucrats off, they are the real dickheads in this scenario.

Colour doesn't discern who can and can't farm properly, obviously the white man must be fairly good, after all they are the worlds leaders in farming and feeding the world.

Get rid of the sicko lefties is the answer to so many problems the globe faces right now, not just the undergrowth buildup causing massive bushfires.

...still Whiteys - doesn't matter if they are left or right. Still 'Whitey'.  Grin
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Re: A real history of Aboriginal Australians
Reply #36 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:50pm
 
moses wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:24pm:
Valkie wrote: Quote:
Its simply an industry.

They have nothing of worth to offer.

So they try to break down the truly successful white man.

We will endure, we always have, we have the skills, knowledge and fortitude to succeed.

The darkies have ..................................................stupidity.


Their downhill run began with the perkins booze bus in the 70s.

Since that time they have gone through the booze and drugs phase, the kids were molested to such an extent that federal intervention was necessary etc. etc..

After the 7os there was massive hate the whiteman sentiment, fueled by the leftwing.

The pre 70s aboriginals were vastly different to todays people.

The thing is we can get along together if there is no bullshit involved.

The answer is to get rid of the leftwing agenda in the aboriginal communities, let the kids from both sides live in harmony, stop the white blame game.

It's the aboriginal kids who are suffering from the sick leftards of the world.


Sorry, how does a book on traditional Aboriginal food gathering break down the truly successful white man?

Is this man so brittle and insecure he can't bear the thought of fish traps, native seed cultivation and backburning?

Does every discussion with the word Aboriginal in it have to be framed as an insidious leftard agenda, including books on indigenous land management?

When you say you want to let the kids on both sides live in harmony, do you mean by  preventing any mention of traditional hunter-gatherer practices?

Who exactly is playing the blame game here?

Matty's said what he thinks. You?

Cheers.
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Reply #37 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:55pm
 
Valkie is insecure because he stole the Black Man's Land.

I'm a Water Spirit and I give thanks to the Land Spirits for the privilege of using 'their Land' while my world is slowly being made, discovered and to one day be lived in underwater... where even Black People are invited.  Wink
It's also why I've never 'owned' Land (or a House) .

Valkie invaded, killed and stole Black Lands like Cecil Rhodes. Grin
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Reply #38 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:01pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:30pm:
...in the future, Whiteys will be the dumb primitive mass breeders. While the Darkies will have the responsibility of running the planet as a minority.

Media is a Black Nation now. They've colonised it like Whitey colonised their land. Now they can put on more TV series of Darkie Man seeding another Whitey Woman.  Cheesy


Are you saying this book is part of Darkie's plan to take over the world and send Whitey back to where he came from?

You sound a bit offended. Was it the sight of one of them seeding a white woman on TV?

Or is the existence of a book on indigenous food cultivation?

Or is it the fact that the Boongs have been mentioned at all? Don't mention the Boongs, eh?

I'm afraid you'll have to blame Matty for that one, JaSin. He started it.
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Reply #39 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:11pm
 
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fish traps, native seed cultivation and backburning?


For goodness sake from a people who had not yet invented the wheel, had no beast of burden, had no way of making anything other then chips of stone, a stone age people suddenly harvesting enough seeds from grass etc. to farm with, no tools of trade making fish traps etc. etc..


In a word:

Bullshit.
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Reply #40 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:12pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:55pm:
Valkie is insecure because he stole the Black Man's Land.

I'm a Water Spirit and I give thanks to the Land Spirits for the privilege of using 'their Land' while my world is slowly being made, discovered and to one day be lived in underwater... where even Black People are invited.  Wink
It's also why I've never 'owned' Land (or a House) .

Valkie invaded, killed and stole Black Lands like Cecil Rhodes. Grin


I see. So you're now introducing the term invasion.

Here we were, having a harmless chat on fish traps and seed cultivation, and you've come along and dropped that one in.

Shame on you, JaSin. You might wish to reflect on Bruce Pascoe's thoughts on being a white man with distant Aboriginal anscestral connections.

After all, he's more English than Aboriginal. How can he blame the white man for anything? Which part of his DNA should he blame?

A search on Google or YouTube should uncover some of his thoughts on this, and more.

Don't mention invasion again, dear. It gets Moses and Matty ever so upset.
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Reply #41 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:14pm
 
moses wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:11pm:
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fish traps, native seed cultivation and backburning?


For goodness sake from a people who had not yet invented the wheel, had no beast of burden, had no way of making anything other then chips of stone, a stone age people suddenly harvesting enough seeds from grass etc. to farm with, no tools of trade making fish traps etc. etc..


In a word:

Bullshit.


Which part's bullshit, Moses? We'll need a reference, dear.
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Reply #42 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:24pm
 
Everything about stone age people suddenly building things and farming.

Stoneage hunter gatherers nothing more nothing less.

The moved to an area hunted it out, set it alight then moved on to the next area.
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Reply #43 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:37pm
 
moses wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:44pm:
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Only have to look at the recent WildFires that 'Whitey' still has a lot to learn from Aboriginal 'Traditional' culture.



The fires were caused by leftard / green bureaucracy stupidity, people were not allowed to burn off the undergrowth build up, resulting in massive bushfires.


I don't think fields of grass or crops are too prone to bushfires, Moses. Haystacks, sure, but nobody's backburning them.

Farmers are not employed to manage Crown land or national parks where bushfires normally spread, so I'm not sure what thousands of years of European agriculture has to do with our bushfire problem.

Tree-felling is managed under federal regulations. I think you'll find most rural councils around Australia are in the hands of the LNP or independents, but the local councils look to Australian standards on cutting down trees on private property. The lefties/Greens have nothing to do with this.

Some national park authorities have been interested in Aboriginal controlled burning practices and have met to discuss. As far as I'm aware, there is no ancient tradition of controlled burning in European forestry management.

Bushfires are not caused by Greens/leftie bureaucracy. Last year's bushfires were the worst in recorded history - same in California. The consensus is they're they've gotten this bad because of the drying effect of global warming.

That, by the way, is the consensus of thousands of years of European thought known as the scientific method, and nothing to do with Greens/lefties - or the Boongs - at all.
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Reply #44 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:40pm
 
moses wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 4:24pm:
Everything about stone age people suddenly building things and farming.

Stoneage hunter gatherers nothing more nothing less.

The moved to an area hunted it out, set it alight then moved on to the next area.


Thanks for the insight, Moses, but which specific part of Dark Emu do you mean by "everything about stone age people suddenly building things and farming"?

Cheers.
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