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Reply #30 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:33pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:18pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:14pm:
What do we expect people to think of a country with over a billion people? Hardly any billionaires? If you are going to work people for a few dollars an hour in massive factories or labour-intensive industries, you are going to profit well. It is surprising that China does not have more billionaires or an even greater economy.

Agree. And income disparity is huge in China, I think Lostnails comments on China are based on him feeling butthurt because of his own missed opportunites here in Oz.


missed opportunities Cheesy LOL

Like what ??
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Reply #31 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


ive been there dude.

a couple of times.

every chinaman in a rural village has an ebay store and even the farmers have better broadband then our cities.

they are all making cash .

went to a steel works.

you could have eaten your lunch off the floor.

you need to get out more.


We've been here before.. You went only where you were allowed to go.

They're all making cash, are they? They're all happy... They're all prosperous... Even first world countries wouldn't make those absolutist claims.
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Reply #32 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:47pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:30pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 1:22pm:
China has a lot of billionares, they also have a lot of people living on $10 a month living next to toxic waste dumps. For the life of me I cant understand why any Australian would such Chinese cock like this. I get that Lostnail missed out and lives in a rented fibro dump but the Chinese wont save him from  his own financial stupidity.

 

oh dear.


surely you arent that ignorant.
I make sure of my facts before I post, you should have learned that by now.  Wink


yeh like the only way to become a billionaire in china is listen to whinos advice and flip some properties long the way Cheesy LOL
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Reply #33 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:33pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:14pm:
What do we expect people to think of a country with over a billion people? Hardly any billionaires? If you are going to work people for a few dollars an hour in massive factories or labour-intensive industries, you are going to profit well. It is surprising that China does not have more billionaires or an even greater economy.


Agree. When there’s a population in a country of over 1 billion people, and 1000 are billionaires....that’s a very low percentage compared to the overall population of the country.
Maybe they made their money importing baby food formula from Australia?

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Reply #34 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:43pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:47pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:30pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 1:22pm:
China has a lot of billionares, they also have a lot of people living on $10 a month living next to toxic waste dumps. For the life of me I cant understand why any Australian would such Chinese cock like this. I get that Lostnail missed out and lives in a rented fibro dump but the Chinese wont save him from  his own financial stupidity.

 

oh dear.


surely you arent that ignorant.
I make sure of my facts before I post, you should have learned that by now.  Wink


yeh like the only way to become a billionaire in china is listen to whinos advice and flip some properties long the way Cheesy LOL

You make me laugh.
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Reply #35 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


ive been there dude.

a couple of times.

every chinaman in a rural village has an ebay store and even the farmers have better broadband then our cities.

they are all making cash .

went to a steel works.

you could have eaten your lunch off the floor.

you need to get out more.

i reckon you need to get out more, the latest scams in  China as reported from their own law enforcement authorities involve artificial meat, eggs and vegetables, They are literally making these things out of spoiled food and  toxic ingredients and passing them off as real food. The authorities are alerted when people start dying from food poisoning but they keep doing it even though people die from eating the food and they themselves get the death penalty for it. People dont do things like that because they arent desperate for money. I suggest they showed you what they wanted to show you when you went to China, you went with a guide, right. You know they have model villages where they take western tourists right? In  the old days if you visited China they had a model village just over the border in Hong Kong where everyone was happy and wealthy which was one of the few places you were allowed to go, now theres a couple of them near every major city.
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Reply #36 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 11:04pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


Your right.
I have been to China, Fiji, South East Asia, Bangkok, Bali, and impoverished areas are off limits and tourists are shown the nicer parts to spend tourism dollars on... I was told ages ago to give ourselves free time to walk the walk and talk the talk to mingle amongst locals.
There really is a huge rift between well off and impoverished... not much in the middle we call middle class.

Basically, I come away feeling saddened for those people and feel annoyed when others choose to turn a blind eye.
Even in Fiji.... a Fijian woman was talking to me about their hardships and make little money .... I don’t understand the low stated unemployment rate when I was told it was 25% of the country unemployed. (Back in 2000).
So what’s the real figure?

What was a “shameful” thing that happened... as our plane was delayed and our 2 hour taxi ride happened in daylight hours.... when it was supposed to be at night .... so we wouldn’t see how those Fijians really lived.
Tin shacks .... the type of old tin sheds old farmers here, keep their old tractors in.

And little shops/stores all with heavily adorned with iron bars....seems to indicate high crime rate.
I didn’t like it there at all, my friend that invited me seemed so blind and oblivious to it all. I actually felt sick to my stomach.

No wonder they (in those countries mentioned) view us as rich white westerners.




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Reply #37 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 11:07pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


ive been there dude.

a couple of times.

every chinaman in a rural village has an ebay store and even the farmers have better broadband then our cities.

they are all making cash .

went to a steel works.

you could have eaten your lunch off the floor.

you need to get out more.

i reckon you need to get out more, the latest scams in  China as reported from their own law enforcement authorities involve artificial meat, eggs and vegetables, They are literally making these things out of spoiled food and  toxic ingredients and passing them off as real food. The authorities are alerted when people start dying from food poisoning but they keep doing it even though people die from eating the food and they themselves get the death penalty for it. People dont do things like that because they arent desperate for money. I suggest they showed you what they wanted to show you when you went to China, you went with a guide, right. You know they have model villages where they take western tourists right? In  the old days if you visited China they had a model village just over the border in Hong Kong where everyone was happy and wealthy which was one of the few places you were allowed to go, now theres a couple of them near every major city.


I saw a doco some years back how the poor had scraped plaster off their walls to make noodles to eat, and sell.
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Reply #38 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 11:51pm
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 11:04pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


Your right.
I have been to China, Fiji, South East Asia, Bangkok, Bali, and impoverished areas are off limits and tourists are shown the nicer parts to spend tourism dollars on... I was told ages ago to give ourselves free time to walk the walk and talk the talk to mingle amongst locals.
There really is a huge rift between well off and impoverished... not much in the middle we call middle class.

Basically, I come away feeling saddened for those people and feel annoyed when others choose to turn a blind eye.
Even in Fiji.... a Fijian woman was talking to me about their hardships and make little money .... I don’t understand the low stated unemployment rate when I was told it was 25% of the country unemployed. (Back in 2000).
So what’s the real figure?

What was a “shameful” thing that happened... as our plane was delayed and our 2 hour taxi ride happened in daylight hours.... when it was supposed to be at night .... so we wouldn’t see how those Fijians really lived.
Tin shacks .... the type of old tin sheds old farmers here, keep their old tractors in.

And little shops/stores all with heavily adorned with iron bars....seems to indicate high crime rate.
I didn’t like it there at all, my friend that invited me seemed so blind and oblivious to it all. I actually felt sick to my stomach.

No wonder they (in those countries mentioned) view us as rich white westerners.




yeah, seasoned travellers know how to sift through the bulldust, tourists get escorted and guided and see what they want them to see, and we are super rich to those Asian people, including the Chinese,.
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Reply #39 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 12:08am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


ive been there dude.

a couple of times.

every chinaman in a rural village has an ebay store and even the farmers have better broadband then our cities.

they are all making cash .

went to a steel works.

you could have eaten your lunch off the floor.

you need to get out more.

i reckon you need to get out more, the latest scams in  China as reported from their own law enforcement authorities involve artificial meat, eggs and vegetables, They are literally making these things out of spoiled food and  toxic ingredients and passing them off as real food. The authorities are alerted when people start dying from food poisoning but they keep doing it even though people die from eating the food and they themselves get the death penalty for it. People dont do things like that because they arent desperate for money. I suggest they showed you what they wanted to show you when you went to China, you went with a guide, right. You know they have model villages where they take western tourists right? In  the old days if you visited China they had a model village just over the border in Hong Kong where everyone was happy and wealthy which was one of the few places you were allowed to go, now theres a couple of them near every major city.



Told yez they don't allow self-drive tourists with cameras without a 'guide'.....
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Reply #40 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 12:15am
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:33pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:14pm:
What do we expect people to think of a country with over a billion people? Hardly any billionaires? If you are going to work people for a few dollars an hour in massive factories or labour-intensive industries, you are going to profit well. It is surprising that China does not have more billionaires or an even greater economy.


Agree. When there’s a population in a country of over 1 billion people, and 1000 are billionaires....that’s a very low percentage compared to the overall population of the country.
Maybe they made their money importing baby food formula from Australia?



If they're all so prosperous, why would they need to import baby formula?  You'd have thought the great socialist government would ensure that babies were well fed and looked after.... like here - at least here even the poorest get enough to live on - so far...

P.S.  Returning to a rural block.... selling the house and liking the quiet acres.... too many people around you makes a toxic environment .... birds and wildlife welcome, including black snakes....they're OK ... won't bite unless you kick them around... never forgave that areshole next door who killed a blackie for no reason and threw it into our dam .... pig..... dead now I trust... could not happen to a more deserving soul... I wanted his arse for killing that snake.... but the world has its ways...

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Reply #41 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 1:20am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 10th, 2021 at 12:08am:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


ive been there dude.

a couple of times.

every chinaman in a rural village has an ebay store and even the farmers have better broadband then our cities.

they are all making cash .

went to a steel works.

you could have eaten your lunch off the floor.

you need to get out more.

i reckon you need to get out more, the latest scams in  China as reported from their own law enforcement authorities involve artificial meat, eggs and vegetables, They are literally making these things out of spoiled food and  toxic ingredients and passing them off as real food. The authorities are alerted when people start dying from food poisoning but they keep doing it even though people die from eating the food and they themselves get the death penalty for it. People dont do things like that because they arent desperate for money. I suggest they showed you what they wanted to show you when you went to China, you went with a guide, right. You know they have model villages where they take western tourists right? In  the old days if you visited China they had a model village just over the border in Hong Kong where everyone was happy and wealthy which was one of the few places you were allowed to go, now theres a couple of them near every major city.



Told yez they don't allow self-drive tourists with cameras without a 'guide'.....
Ive been to China.
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Reply #42 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 7:55am
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 11:04pm:
Your right.
I have been to China, Fiji, South East Asia, Bangkok, Bali, and impoverished areas are off limits and tourists are shown the nicer parts to spend tourism dollars on... I was told ages ago to give ourselves free time to walk the walk and talk the talk to mingle amongst locals.
There really is a huge rift between well off and impoverished... not much in the middle we call middle class.

Basically, I come away feeling saddened for those people and feel annoyed when others choose to turn a blind eye.
Even in Fiji.... a Fijian woman was talking to me about their hardships and make little money .... I don’t understand the low stated unemployment rate when I was told it was 25% of the country unemployed. (Back in 2000).
So what’s the real figure?

What was a “shameful” thing that happened... as our plane was delayed and our 2 hour taxi ride happened in daylight hours.... when it was supposed to be at night .... so we wouldn’t see how those Fijians really lived.
Tin shacks .... the type of old tin sheds old farmers here, keep their old tractors in.

And little shops/stores all with heavily adorned with iron bars....seems to indicate high crime rate.
I didn’t like it there at all, my friend that invited me seemed so blind and oblivious to it all. I actually felt sick to my stomach.

No wonder they (in those countries mentioned) view us as rich white westerners.

Yes, and while it's understandable that any nation should be rightly ashamed of, or at least embarrassed by, abject poverty, it's unconscionable that the CCP perverts the truth of the peoples' suffering with impunity and voraciously (even blatantly) exploits poverty for political and economic capital... Marx that!

Marx... A dreamer who, in fairness, never lived to see the extent of enslavement his theories inflict on the people he sought to liberate. All he did was establish a tyrant's bible.

Religion: an opiate for the masses? Marxism / communism - amphetamine for the psychopath.

And of Marx's (albeit unintended) victims of his ramble - the rural or impoverished Chinese; what do they make of the CCP's flaunting showcase cities in their face, like Shanghai or Beijing, while they live in destitution, I wonder.

However, all governments can become corrupted and tyrannical when able to rule in the dark; the remedy for which democratic governments must accede to: enforced accountability, and the caveat that the executive leader and their government is neither indispensable nor absolute.

But, in sympathy with the Chinese people, the west has had nearly 250 years of democratic state-crafting.

China has had imperial rule, then military rule followed by descent into the hell that is hardline 'communism'. They have never known government where the supreme leader is not an absolute ruler, hiding behind by the cult of personality and perverted by the myth of indispensability.

And these limits to power can only be sustained by the principles of free speech, the right to protest against the government and a free media.

The refusal to accede to this is a measure of the CCP's cowardice.

Is it messy? Emphatically yes. And you wouldn't want it any other way, given the alternatives.
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Reply #43 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 11:09am
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 11:07pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:39pm:
10 dollars A MONTH

there is a lower proportion earning under 10,000 a year (still thats 800 a month, not 10 dollars a month ) in china then in the USA  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Aww.. Come on... The CCP never releases figures that are not exaggerated where they need to be...

There are no free and independent assessors of anything in mainland China.

What gets out tells a way more horrific story, particularly in rural parts of China, where the CCP does not focus much except primarily as a source of potential slave labourers (and not just Uighurs).

These areas tend to be too impoverished to be a potential crucible of dissent, (the exceptions being, in the mind of the CCP: Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia)


ive been there dude.

a couple of times.

every chinaman in a rural village has an ebay store and even the farmers have better broadband then our cities.

they are all making cash .

went to a steel works.

you could have eaten your lunch off the floor.

you need to get out more.

i reckon you need to get out more, the latest scams in  China as reported from their own law enforcement authorities involve artificial meat, eggs and vegetables, They are literally making these things out of spoiled food and  toxic ingredients and passing them off as real food. The authorities are alerted when people start dying from food poisoning but they keep doing it even though people die from eating the food and they themselves get the death penalty for it. People dont do things like that because they arent desperate for money. I suggest they showed you what they wanted to show you when you went to China, you went with a guide, right. You know they have model villages where they take western tourists right? In  the old days if you visited China they had a model village just over the border in Hong Kong where everyone was happy and wealthy which was one of the few places you were allowed to go, now theres a couple of them near every major city.


I saw a doco some years back how the poor had scraped plaster off their walls to make noodles to eat, and sell.


yeh and that dude is probably one of those billionaires now but whino is still only on his alleged third million Cheesy LOL
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Reply #44 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 11:11am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:43pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 5:47pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 4:30pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 1:22pm:
China has a lot of billionares, they also have a lot of people living on $10 a month living next to toxic waste dumps. For the life of me I cant understand why any Australian would such Chinese cock like this. I get that Lostnail missed out and lives in a rented fibro dump but the Chinese wont save him from  his own financial stupidity.

 

oh dear.


surely you arent that ignorant.
I make sure of my facts before I post, you should have learned that by now.  Wink


yeh like the only way to become a billionaire in china is listen to whinos advice and flip some properties long the way Cheesy LOL

You make me laugh.


So your advice to Elon Musk would have been to avoid tech and stick to flipping properties. Where would he be today if he had taken your advice ? Cheesy LOL
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