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Reply #15 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 12:33am
 
I was struck by the way her being requested to resign has become another plank in the feminist victim jihad platform.

Would a man have been treated differently?

Personally I think that's a very cheap shot from Ms Holgate, and a ridiculous attempt to ride on the current crazy wave of feminist demands for everything...  I was leaning towards her side of things until that... had she stuck to the facts instead of that cheap shot I would most likely have been on her side.

Yes - she was correct in saying that AusPost is a commercial operation and it's profit money - perhaps she was Entitled™ to give bonus watches to a few pets - Scotty was wrong to say what he did about that - none of these are 'feminist' issues.... they are industrial issues based around the way such contracted employees are treated.

Did she deserve sacking and a public hanging for it?  NO!

I still say that bonuses are out of the question since the salaries and perks already on flow into the trough are more than enough for simply doing the job, but that's easily fixed without this charade.
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Reply #16 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 8:05am
 
Regardless of what she had done ONCE.

She is now sacked.

So she takes up the great women victim mantle and goes for the money.

Not possible for her to simply take it like a man......oh yeah, thats right, she isnt.
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Reply #17 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 10:36am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 8:05am:
Regardless of what she had done ONCE.

She is now sacked.

So she takes up the great women victim mantle and goes for the money.

Not possible for her to simply take it like a man......oh yeah, thats right, she isnt.


Obviously someone had decided that she needed to go - excuse found - nothing to do with any 'poor woman' thing - I got the distinct feeling she way playing to Hansen-Young in seeking sympathy votes for being a victim of nasty male society.

Watch that space carefully, lads - behind that door be monsters.... don't laugh.

If this keeps up, with Holgate being cited as a poor suffering woman - soon any and every whine by any sheila will become the law of the land.... and one woman's meat is another man's poison, lads, and you will swallow it mightily any time some sheila goes the rat.

Stupid if you don't see that.
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Reply #18 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 10:42am
 
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Reply #19 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 11:02am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 10:42am:


Not a victim of misogyny at all - but he should apologise for his ridiculous comments in an issue that did not affect him or government - this being a business venture these days, by their order - and thus not under his direct control.

Again - nothing to do with misogyny - a matter of industrial relations and lack of understanding ofwhat they have wrought with their privatisation nonsense.  No idea... that's all it is.

Maybe they should just make it illegal to ever sack a woman under any circumstances.

You do see where this is going, don't you - and how totally unthinking those are who are screeching 'misogyny'???
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm
 
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry
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Reply #22 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:35pm
 
0ktema wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry


A: The figure given by the valuer for the airport land had no basis in reality. Land was selling at the same rate and even more at the time that deal was done.

B: Albo said at the time her position was untenable 

"Anthony Albanese said at the time that Christine Holgate's position was untenable. That is what this issue is about."

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/scott-morrison-urged-to-apologise-to-chri...
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Reply #23 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:41pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:35pm:
0ktema wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry


A: The figure given by the valuer for the airport land had no basis in reality. Land was selling at the same rate and even more at the time that deal was done.

B: Albo said at the time her position was untenable 

"Anthony Albanese said at the time that Christine Holgate's position was untenable. That is what this issue is about."

Next?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/scott-morrison-urged-to-apologise-to-chri...


I don't care what Albo said.  He seems to have been as ignorant as Morrison on what the context was.
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Reply #24 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:47pm
 
Anyway - he can't back down now - since these people have tried to cast it as a male/female issue instead of industrial relations, and many will think it is such a thing now - to do so would give those screeching in the streets more fuel for their screechings about 'women's rights' and more impetus to push for more and more until they own everything in sight without any oversight - this has nothing to do with rights other than industrial relations.

He should have done an aquascoot and remained aloof - now he has painted himself into a corner....
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Reply #25 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:35pm:
0ktema wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry


A: The figure given by the valuer for the airport land had no basis in reality. Land was selling at the same rate and even more at the time that deal was done.

B: Albo said at the time her position was untenable 

"Anthony Albanese said at the time that Christine Holgate's position was untenable. That is what this issue is about."

Next?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/scott-morrison-urged-to-apologise-to-chri...


I don't care what Albo said.  He seems to have been as ignorant as Morrison on what the context was.


Nobody cares what you care about, we just want facts.

Everybody at the time was howling for her removal and whether that was right or wrong, I'm open to be swayed either way but her playing the misogyny card sways me against her.
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Reply #26 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:28pm
 
This unit didn't pass the pub test but she would be more than welcome in any inner city cafe latte shop.
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Reply #27 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:39pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:35pm:
0ktema wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry


A: The figure given by the valuer for the airport land had no basis in reality. Land was selling at the same rate and even more at the time that deal was done.

B: Albo said at the time her position was untenable 

"Anthony Albanese said at the time that Christine Holgate's position was untenable. That is what this issue is about."

Next?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/scott-morrison-urged-to-apologise-to-chri...


I don't care what Albo said.  He seems to have been as ignorant as Morrison on what the context was.


Nobody cares what you care about, we just want facts.

Everybody at the time was howling for her removal and whether that was right or wrong, I'm open to be swayed either way but her playing the misogyny card sways me against her.



correct... EVERYONE..my take on Christine is   darling you broke through the glass ceiling  isnt that a fact  so you were in fact living where the men only have been living for a long time......same happened to gillard...you still expect to be treated differently I AM SPECIAL..  no your not.. you alongside the big wigs now and thats what gets dished out  when a bloke gets shafted he just walks mainly because it was deserved  and we never here from him again....

shame about females they want what the big guys have but dont like the consequences.. thats saddens me a bit she even says she felt suicidal....seriously ....it that to impress someone... I would say Christine you are not suitable for a top job...you cant take the heat in the kitchen... sorry love.
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Reply #28 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:42pm
 
0ktema wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry



b.shite  she took on a top job...and to give out rewards like that to the chosen ones  is not on...what would you have Morrison do   send her to the naughty chair then let her keep her job????????>...

yeah right!
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Reply #29 - Apr 14th, 2021 at 4:02pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:39pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 3:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:35pm:
0ktema wrote on Apr 14th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
As I saw it at the time - Scott Scummy Morrison threw Christine Holgate under the bus to gain some political cover from the $30 million Leppington Triangle (Sydney airport) over-payment debacle!

Look over here, $20,000 Cartier watches shinny shinny!

The slimy nasty scum needed to demonize Holgate, so he could be seen as the tax payers champion.  Angry


A: The figure given by the valuer for the airport land had no basis in reality. Land was selling at the same rate and even more at the time that deal was done.

B: Albo said at the time her position was untenable 

"Anthony Albanese said at the time that Christine Holgate's position was untenable. That is what this issue is about."

Next?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/scott-morrison-urged-to-apologise-to-chri...


I don't care what Albo said.  He seems to have been as ignorant as Morrison on what the context was.


Nobody cares what you care about, we just want facts.

Everybody at the time was howling for her removal and whether that was right or wrong, I'm open to be swayed either way but her playing the misogyny card sways me against her.



correct... EVERYONE..my take on Christine is   darling you broke through the glass ceiling  isnt that a fact  so you were in fact living where the men only have been living for a long time......same happened to gillard...you still expect to be treated differently I AM SPECIAL..  no your not.. you alongside the big wigs now and thats what gets dished out  when a bloke gets shafted he just walks mainly because it was deserved  and we never here from him again....

shame about females they want what the big guys have but dont like the consequences.. thats saddens me a bit she even says she felt suicidal....seriously ....it that to impress someone... I would say Christine you are not suitable for a top job...you cant take the heat in the kitchen... sorry love.


Well said, Cods. I couldn't agree more. Females have to stop expecting to be treated any differently to a male in a Top Job. Feminine Wiles doesn't work up there.  Wink
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