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Reply #30 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 2:28pm
 
How wars chamged the thinking and increased the independence of women. This is about the South in the Civil War:

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On the eve of the Civil War Florence Nightingale was as much a heroine to American women as she was in England. Nightingale had revolutionized the inadequate British army medical services in the Crimea. She had also dignified nursing as a profession and in 1860 had established the world’s first school of nursing at St. Thomas’s Hospital in London. When war came to America, several southern white women volunteered their services as nurses or founded small hospitals for soldiers. One of the best such hospitals was established in Richmond by Sally Louisa Tompkins, whom Jefferson Davis eventually commissioned as a captain so that her infirmary could qualify as an army hospital. These examples defied a prejudice against “refined ladies” working in military hospitals. It was permissible for white women to nurse the sick at home or even in the slave quarters, but they had no business in the masculine milieu of an army hospital which presented sights that no lady should see.

Women should stay at home and make bandages, knit socks for soldiers, and comfort the menfolk when they returned from the rigors of battle.

Despite the initial wartime prevalence of this view, numerous southern women of good families braved the frowns of father or brother to volunteer as nurses. One of them was twenty-seven-year old Kate Cumming of Mobile, who in April 1862 went to Corinth where Beauregard’s battered army was trying to recover after Shiloh. “As to the plea of its being no place for a refined lady,” Cumming wrote, “I wondered what Miss Nightingale and the hundreds of refined ladies of Great Britain who went to the Crimea, would say to that!"28

Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era (Oxford History of the United States Book 6) (pp. 478-479). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.


Jeff Shaara wrote a book of fiction about the Vicksburg campaign “A Chain of Thunder: A Novel of the Siege of Vicksburg.” In the city of Vicksburg his heroine was a young woman, recently orphaned and living by herself (already enough to earn the frowns of neighbors) who decided to nurse injured Confederate soldiers. REALLY a cause not just for frowns but protests but she did it to the end of the siege and the entry of the victorious Union soldiers. Gives you a feel for the status of women back then, despite the example of Florence Nightingale.
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Reply #31 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 3:24pm
 
Ajax wrote on Apr 5th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
cods wrote on Apr 5th, 2021 at 10:47am:
yet we feel we should be able to walk through the darkest streets  at all hours....


I cannot understand why women have this illusion that they should be safe walking the streets after dark and in the early hours of the morning by themselves.

Men do not suffer from this illusion, they know that if they are going to cross for example a paddock a park or an area that is not very well lite up there could be danger.

If men are alone in the city on a Saturday night in the early hours of the morning they know that they are an easy target  for a mob of predators.

Is it that a woman's sense of danger is a couple of notches down from a man's sense of danger, in other words men can recognise a dangerous situation better than woman can.

Men do not think that they should be privileged to walk the streets at night all alone without any danger, like you said cods there are predators every where.

I have never heard a man say this to me, but women seem to say it all the time, that we should be safe walking around by ourselves at night.

Criminals are out there just waiting for the easiest of opportunities, a lone male or a lone female, for a group would make an easy target.

As can be seen in the news men get mugged, stabbed, hospitalized and sometimes killed all the time when out and about during the night, especially in the early hours of the morning.

So if men are being attacked on the street in the middle of the night why would women be any different.






its a fact didnt women march to the tune of TAKE BACK THE NIGHT.... Roll Eyes...  they live in HOPE ajax... whats wrong with that?..

you are looking for a reason to argue....take a look at the thread title ajax    it is about women and violence   and sadly its men that deal out that violence....

when men get attacked at night on the streets   its by other men   you dont see gangs of women running the streets and dropping men left right and centre  do you?.....


so of course men wont whinge about the streets being dangerous  its their fault.....
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Reply #32 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 3:42pm
 
What a compelling image:

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you dont see gangs of women running the streets and dropping men left right and centre  do you?.....


Pity it isn’t happening. Bet the streets would suddenly be made safer!
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Reply #33 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 3:50pm
 
Last bit, showing how women working—nursing etc—led them to look to keep more status amnd independence:

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Many other women who did not go into the hospitals also contributed in a crucial way by organizing soldiers’ aid or hospital relief societies throughout the South to provide supplies, services, and money to aid sick and wounded soldiers or their families. These efforts were part of the mobilization of resources for total war in 1862. They projected southern women into public activities on an unprecedented scale and did much to emancipate them from the pedestal of ethereal femininity that had constricted their lives.

Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era (Oxford History of the United States Book 6) (p. 480). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.


The world wars saw women working in factories—they loved the status, pay and independence.
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Reply #34 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.




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Reply #35 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.



are you surprised????....if ever an organization was a huge FAIL its the UN>.. no morals no empathy. and no courage...gutless in other words....useless is another word for them..




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Reply #36 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 7:29pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.



are you surprised????....if ever an organization was a huge FAIL its the UN>.. no morals no empathy. and no courage...gutless in other words....useless is another word for them..





Indeed. It is captured by the grusomest 'nations'.
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Reply #37 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:31am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 7:29pm:
cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.



are you surprised????....if ever an organization was a huge FAIL its the UN>.. no morals no empathy. and no courage...gutless in other words....useless is another word for them..





Indeed. It is captured by the grusomest 'nations'.   



we are ALL responsible .. lets stop passing the buck...
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Reply #38 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 12:07pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:31am:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 7:29pm:
cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.



are you surprised????....if ever an organization was a huge FAIL its the UN>.. no morals no empathy. and no courage...gutless in other words....useless is another word for them..





Indeed. It is captured by the grusomest 'nations'.   



we are ALL responsible .. lets stop passing the buck...



Let's stop treating corrupt and thuggish countries as if they were just like  normal, real countries like Switzerland,  Denmark,  Japan,  UK,  Sweden or Australia.

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Reply #39 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 1:33pm
 
only your version of normal of course..
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Reply #40 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 5:49pm
 
https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/s4-e7-ayaan-hirsi-ali/

There is no gain- saying this.

Listen to an intelligent discussion and see if light is shone on what you have been in the dark about.
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Reply #41 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:54am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.

Given the way the UN makes these decisions I’m not sure ‘elected’ is the correct term.
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Reply #42 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:02pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:54am:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
The United Nations bizarrely elected Iran, one of the most violently misogynistic governments in the world, to a four-year term on its Commission on the Status of Women on Monday.

Given the way the UN makes these decisions I’m not sure ‘elected’ is the correct term.

Elected is correct.

Thug countries are given an equal vote, and then they vote.

Iran, China, Syria are 'equal' in this racket, to Holland,  Norway and Australia.

Multiculturalism.


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Reply #44 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 10:10am
 
A 66 year old woman phoned 999 after stabbing her husband who she claimed had been abusive to her for years.

Bodycam footage also shows the moment Police arrive when she was then arrested

https://mobile.twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1450867905302831109
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