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COVID19 came from animals at a wet market
Apr 1st, 2021 at 4:02pm
 
says WHO:

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Markets that sold animals — some dead, some alive — in December 2019 have emerged as a probable source of the coronavirus pandemic in a major investigation organized by the World Health Organization (WHO).

That investigation winnowed out alternative hypotheses on when and where the pandemic arose, concluding that the virus probably didn’t spread widely before December or escape from a laboratory. The investigation report, released today, also takes a deep look at the likely role of markets — including the Huanan market in Wuhan, to which many of the first known COVID-19 infections are linked.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00865-8

Plenty of new leads to follow up came out of this investigation.
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Re: COVID19 came from animals at a wet market
Reply #1 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 4:18pm
 
This is a house lies!

Lies!

Covid can from Xi's ass.
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Reply #2 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 4:21pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 4:02pm:
Markets that sold animals — some dead, some alive — in December 2019 have emerged as a probable source of the coronavirus pandemic in a major investigation organized by the World Health Organization (WHO).



Do they say how the virus made it to the wet market? A source or merely a tributary?
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Reply #3 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 5:37pm
 
you couldnt trust the WHO on this one.

they are beholden to china.

did you see the WHO interview where they asked tedros about how taiwan had done so well.

he refused to say the word "taiwan" for fear of offending china.

he was asked for comment 3 times and deflected to talking about china , vietnam and japan .

it was quite comical.

i dont blame china for deliberately creating it but the facts are crystal clear.

1  the most advanced level 4 lab in china is in wuhan

2  wuhan had the largest collection of coronaviruses in the world

3 the chinese were trying to get "ahead of the game" by doing "enhancement of virility experiments on corona viruses to try and get a vaccine ready (ironicaly for the virus they would accidently release).

4  wuhan is a very very modern city. its more modern then melbourne.  this image of people dining all the time in wet markets is false.

5  the lab where they were experimenting on corona viruses was collabarating with a lot of highly respected western scientists, who were all for these experiments.
and two of them were contributors to the lancet which came out strongly to say it was a bat/pangolin virus.   they were covering their tracks.  imagine a oxford professor or a harvard professor who was involved in this catastrophe. human nature says they would try to deflect the truth.


the odds that this virus would spring up in the one city where enhanced viral experiments on coronaviruses was going on?

it seem way too much of a coincidence.

add to this that this very lab had already been closed down for security breeches.

believe the WHO if you want.
but you are believing president Xi if you do.

did you know one of their early bullet trains crashed and they buried it

literally, buried it.

only years later did they dig it up due to pressure.

we need to get into that lab and see what happened.
but Xi wont be allowing that
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Reply #4 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:25pm
 
COVID19 could be mutated from US vaping unknown pneumonia.

September 2019, US had a lots of unknown pneumonia said linked to vaping, with about 100 death and thousands infections. Then, during / after COVID 19 started, it disappeared.

About October, north Italy had some unknown pneumonia cases. It could be from US. Then, to China and all over the world.
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Reply #5 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:32pm
 
Victor Sunny wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
COVID19 could be mutated from US vaping unknown pneumonia.

September 2019, US had a lots of unknown pneumonia said linked to vaping, with about 100 death and thousands infections. Then, during / after COVID 19 started, it disappeared.

About October, north Italy had some unknown pneumonia cases. It could be from US. Then, to China and all over the world.



Or earlier in China. Smiley
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Reply #6 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:40pm
 
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September 2019, US had a lots of unknown pneumonia said linked


Don't you ever get suspicious when they cannot even string a sentence together?
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Reply #7 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 7:22pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:32pm:
Victor Sunny wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
COVID19 could be mutated from US vaping unknown pneumonia.

September 2019, US had a lots of unknown pneumonia said linked to vaping, with about 100 death and thousands infections. Then, during / after COVID 19 started, it disappeared.

About October, north Italy had some unknown pneumonia cases. It could be from US. Then, to China and all over the world.



Or earlier in China. Smiley


Don't think China is earlier than July 2019 in US.

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'Respiratory outbreak' being investigated at retirement community after 54 residents fall ill
Two have died and 18 were hospitalized in Virginia, officials said.

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According to the Fairfax County Health Department, 11 days ago 54 people became ill with symptoms ranging from cough to pneumonia, now the "respiratory illness' left 2 dead and many hospitalized.
Two people have died and 18 others have been hospitalized after a "respiratory outbreak" at a Virginia retirement community, according to officials.

The Fairfax County Department of Health said that 54 individuals had become ill with "respiratory symptoms ranging from upper respiratory symptoms (cough) to pneumonia" in the last 11 days at Greenspring Retirement Community in Springfield.

In a letter Wednesday to residents obtained by ABC News affiliate WJLA-TV in Washington D.C., Greenspring described symptoms as "fever, cough, body aches, wheezing, hoarseness and general weakness."

(MORE: 64-year-old plans to spend 'golden' age at Holiday Inn instead of retirement home)
Benjamin Schwartz, a health department director, told ABC News on Thursday that the outbreak had been reported in the assisted-living and skilled-nursing sections. He said the outbreak began with the first case on June 30.

PHOTO: The sign for Greenspring Retirement Community is shown in Springfield, Virgina.
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The specific cause of the outbreak had not yet been identified but additional tests of samples were being done, according to Schwartz.

The assisted-living and skilled-nursing facility in Greenspring is home to 263 residents, Schwartz said. He said the two patients who died in the outbreak had been hospitalized with pneumonia but were "older individuals with complex medical problems."

"One of the things about skilled nursing facilities and assisted living facilities is [that] when you have a lot of people in close proximity, who have underlying medical conditions, there is an increased risk for outbreaks," he said. "Seeing a respiratory outbreak in a long-term care facility is not odd. ... One thing that's different about this outbreak is just that it's occurring in the summer when, usually, we don't have a lot of respiratory disease."

Of those initially hospitalized, seven have returned to the retirement home, said Courtney Benoff, regional communications manager for Erikson Living, which owns the retirement home.

The health department said that although there had been no new hospitalizations in the "past couple of days," residents were still getting sick in the outbreak.

In a statement, Greenspring said that its "highest priority is the welfare of those who live and work on campus."

(MORE: Little boy gives roses to nursing home residents, tickets for 'being too cute')
"In keeping with this commitment the community has acted with an abundance of caution, and in partnership with the Fairfax County Department of Health, has taken all necessary measures to fully implement proven infection prevention and control strategies. We remain vigilant in our response and will continue to provide frequent and transparent updates to residents, staff and family members," the retirement home said in a statement.

The Fairfax County Health Department said it is investigating the incident.

The department said that appropriate measures had been taken to reduce the risk of infection and keep residents safe, including closing the facility to new admissions, cancelling group activities, keeping ill residents in their rooms and increasing cleaning.

Residents experiencing any of those symptoms were urged to call the community's medical center.
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Reply #8 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 7:51pm
 
Victor Sunny wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 7:22pm:
Don't think China is earlier than July 2019 in US.



But was it COVID 19?

And of course Westerners' never visit China. Wink
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Reply #9 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 10:45pm
 
People are still floating the idea of COVID 19 being a biological weapon?  Well, then those people have no idea about biological warfare.  And here are the reasons:
1. Virus are generally harder to manufacture than bacteria.  Which is why baterias like anthrax are used.
2. Stability - espcially in the air, is a key ingredient.  However, COVID 19 fails miserable.  Yes, it is good in indoors, but it appear not to survive well outdoors, especially in sunlight. 
3. High rate of mortality: right now, the COVID 19 virus has some 80% of cases with asymptomatic, and mild symptoms.  A mortality of 5%, it is a fail for biological weapon standard.
4. Protection of user of bioweapon - it is not good if your weapon backfires, and force yourself to close cities, causing immense damage to your own economy.  This was seen with China.  And until now, they are still developing their vaccines. 
5. Threat of use - in the art of war.  One do not just use a weapon for the sake of it, more often its the threat of using it that is being utilized - e.g. nuclear weapons.  Right now, the COVID 19 is so readily available, you can no longer utilize that threat anymore. 

COVID 19 is a poor candidate for biological weapon.  And the Chinese is not stupid enough to release it on their own population for the sake of infecting the world.  Remember, Xi wanted to be Emperor for life in a prosperous China, not a sick China.   He and his fellow power brokers in the CPC have families and assets tugged away in all parts of the world (including USA).   They may be totalitarian, but they are not stupid.
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Reply #10 - Apr 2nd, 2021 at 7:00am
 
what does it matter anymore where it started   as long as the danger is past.......perhaps if we stopped the finger pointing    after all the horse has bolted...and got on with cleaning up the mess its left and making sure it never happens again.....and that means making every country responsible  making them accountable.....

we know a lot more than we did 12 months ago....lets hope we put it to good use.
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Reply #11 - Apr 2nd, 2021 at 7:21am
 
Victor Sunny wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
COVID19 could be mutated from US vaping unknown pneumonia.

September 2019, US had a lots of unknown pneumonia said linked to vaping, with about 100 death and thousands infections. Then, during / after COVID 19 started, it disappeared.

About October, north Italy had some unknown pneumonia cases. It could be from US. Then, to China and all over the world.


Grin It just so happens that China has big interests in Northern Italy though ..... with a lot of Chinese flying in & out .....not Americans

they were virtually the first place to go down with it outside of China(Wuhan) with rapid spread & high death rates.

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Reply #12 - Apr 2nd, 2021 at 7:51am
 
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COVID19 came from animals at a wet market


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Reply #13 - Apr 2nd, 2021 at 9:41am
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 7:21am:
Victor Sunny wrote on Apr 1st, 2021 at 6:25pm:
COVID19 could be mutated from US vaping unknown pneumonia.

September 2019, US had a lots of unknown pneumonia said linked to vaping, with about 100 death and thousands infections. Then, during / after COVID 19 started, it disappeared.

About October, north Italy had some unknown pneumonia cases. It could be from US. Then, to China and all over the world.


Grin It just so happens that China has big interests in Northern Italy though ..... with a lot of Chinese flying in & out .....not Americans

they were virtually the first place to go down with it outside of China(Wuhan) with rapid spread & high death rates.

Stop chasing windmills Chinese Don Quixote. 


Grin Let's be logical.  There were much more Chinese from Wuhan to HongKong, Singapore or other place than north Italy. There were no reports about unknown pneumonia from those place by end quarter of 2019.

For inside China, every day there are thousands people from Wuhan to other cities. If that happened earlier in China, China would have much more people infected than  in USA.

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MARCH 27, 20202:12 AM Reuter

Adriano Decarli, an epidemiologist and medical statistics professor at the University of Milan, said there had been a “significant” increase in the number of people hospitalized for pneumonia and flu in the areas of Milan and Lodi between October and December last year.

He told Reuters he could not give exact figures but “hundreds” more people than usual had been taken to hospital in the last three months of 2019 in those areas - two of Lombardy’s worst hit cities - with pneumonia and flu-like symptoms, and some of those had died.

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Well, by timing, it could be another way around. People from Italy infected Wuhan.
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Reply #14 - Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:12am
 
From same article cited in the OP:

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“We could show the virus was circulating in the market as early as December 2019,” says the WHO’s Peter Ben Embarek, who co-led the investigation. He adds that this investigation is far from the last. “A lot of good leads were suggested in this report, and we anticipate that many, if not all of them, will be followed through because we owe it to the world to understand what happened, why and how to prevent it from happening again.”
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