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Reply #165 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:03pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:00pm:
One day, so the theory goes, China will shake off its capitalist skin and go communist. That's the theory. Communism is always there, off in the future somewhere.

So all those parades with their giant images of Marx, Lenin and Stalin were futuristic imaginings and only a reinforcement of latter-day quasi-religious prophets??

And to think this is the land of of Confucius and Laozi?
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Reply #168 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:07pm
 
Alas, it stopped with Aquascoot, North.

72 years of Correct Party Thought on class consciousness. It hits Aquascoot and - poof! Gone forevermore.

Aquascoot doesn't notice race, you see, or class, or gender.

As long as you're a white Alpha male, it's all good, no?
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Reply #169 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:36pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:07pm:
Alas, it stopped with Aquascoot, North.

72 years of Correct Party Thought on class consciousness. It hits Aquascoot and - poof! Gone forevermore.

Aquascoot doesn't notice race, you see, or class, or gender.

As long as you're a white Alpha male, it's all good, no?

سچ ہے
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Reply #170 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:37pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:27pm:
Sounds like you've got the correct class pedigree, comrade. We'll run your credentials past the Central Committee and get back to you, no?

Please do!

The concubine's grandchild was an arrogant self-absorbed elitist... Seems to me that class consciousness survived Mao!


North, you're not related to Setanta by any chance are you?
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Reply #171 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:40pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:37pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:27pm:
Sounds like you've got the correct class pedigree, comrade. We'll run your credentials past the Central Committee and get back to you, no?

Please do!

The concubine's grandchild was an arrogant self-absorbed elitist... Seems to me that class consciousness survived Mao!


North, you're not related to Setanta by any chance are you?

He's my brother-in-law... At least, I think he is...


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Reply #172 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:41pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:00pm:
One day, so the theory goes, China will shake off its capitalist skin and go communist. That's the theory. Communism is always there, off in the future somewhere.

So all those parades with their giant images of Marx, Lenin and Stalin were futuristic imaginings and only a reinforcement of latter-day quasi-religious prophets??

And to think this is the land of of Confucius and Laozi?


They stopped with Mao, generally recognised as the last in the succession of Marxist-Leninist prophets.

You don't, by any chance, have a Chow descendent by marriage, do you?

You're not, by any chance, not racist, are you?
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Reply #173 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:45pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 4:36pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 3:32pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 3:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 3:21pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 3:10pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
lots of smoke


china does all the hard work of producing all the stuff that the world needs.

And no, as you have previously pointed out we dont "need" the stuff they produce, we want it. Consumer items.
Wheras our iron ore and  agricultural products.....
You cant run an economy if you cant eat and you cant produce and sell stuff without resources.



Oh? We don't need steel and cement and glass for our building boom? China's our biggest exporter. They don't just make cute little cats that wave their paw on your desk, the commies now produce the bulk of our manufactured goods.

As Aquascoot says, the workers united will never be defeated, no?

No, we dont "need" those things in Australia because we are perfectly capable of producing those things ourselves out of our own resources. We want them because we perceive its easier and cheaper to import them.


Who's going to invest in the manufacturing and training? We don't have a princeling class and a command economy.

You?

Maybe WA could supply the cash they are awash with at the moment.


That's called socialism. We don't do that in Australia.

We look for British and American and now Chinese investors.

Oh, we have a pool of super funds. The Libs want to give that back to the chodes to spend on home loans.

You?
Not so much Chinese anymore, thats part of whats got them a bit hot under the collar I think.
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Reply #174 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:52pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:41pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 8:00pm:
One day, so the theory goes, China will shake off its capitalist skin and go communist. That's the theory. Communism is always there, off in the future somewhere.

So all those parades with their giant images of Marx, Lenin and Stalin were futuristic imaginings and only a reinforcement of latter-day quasi-religious prophets??

And to think this is the land of of Confucius and Laozi?


They stopped with Mao, generally recognised as the last in the succession of Marxist-Leninist prophets.

You don't, by any chance, have a Chow descendent by marriage, do you?

You're not, by any chance, not racist, are you?

No Chinese by descent. 100% European.

I despise racism and consider it a scourge of  base human instinct to be overcome, not to be valued or nurtured.
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Reply #175 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:56pm
 
Oh? The Chows are free to invest in land, newly-built real estate, and our jolly ASX.

We, you see, have liberal trade, unlike the Chows.

So I'm curious. After James Packer moved his dad's money offshore, who are the princelings investing in Australian development?

We have diversified, private super funds, a privatised stock market, all our banks and airlines are floated, and we no longer ride on the sheep's back.

So apart from the government, who's putting the capital in?

Im curious, keen to know what you think, etc, etc, etc.
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Reply #176 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:59pm
 
That's a question for Rhino.

North, we're not racist. Some of our best friends are Charlie Chans, no?
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Reply #177 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 10:01pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
North, we're not racist. Some of our best friends are Charlie Chans, no?

Facetiousness must be carefully deployed...

Not everyone gets irony.
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Reply #178 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 9:25am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 10:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
North, we're not racist. Some of our best friends are Charlie Chans, no?

Facetiousness must be carefully deployed...

Not everyone gets irony.


Indeed. But I'm curious. Without a government to tax and spend and prop up industry, how does Australia become self sufficient, like the "noble Chows"?

All we've ever been is a colony. It's been hard enough in Australia to find our own media magnates, as an example. For a while there,  Rupert and Conrad Black were the only two players in the market.

We don't have the skilled labour, but most importantly, we don't have investment.
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Reply #179 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 10:33am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 13th, 2021 at 9:25am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 10:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:59pm:
North, we're not racist. Some of our best friends are Charlie Chans, no?

Facetiousness must be carefully deployed...

Not everyone gets irony.


Indeed. But I'm curious. Without a government to tax and spend and prop up industry, how does Australia become self sufficient, like the "noble Chows"?

All we've ever been is a colony. It's been hard enough in Australia to find our own media magnates, as an example. For a while there,  Rupert and Conrad Black were the only two players in the market.

We don't have the skilled labour, but most importantly, we don't have investment.



President Xi
On the other hand knows how to invest
He gives billions of dollars to unicorn entrepreneurial companies
He is helping to fund the best and the brightest with the enormous surplus that China makes due to it's incredible productivity

Meanwhile here in Australia
We have over a trillion-dollars debt
And what little money we do have available for investment
We spend on things like the NDIS
Mental health services to help people through the pandemic
Domestic violence services for all our failed relationships
Aged care royal commissions because all the chodes are too lazy to look after their parents

Just try and not look after your parents in China
President x will have you jailed

Basically China invests in all the right things
And we invest in all the wrong things

China doubles down on success
We double down on failure

China tries to give extra funding to winners
We try to give extra funding to losers

How disgraceful
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