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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16434 Gender:	Re: If China invades Taiwan.... Reply #15 - Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 11:56am athos wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 10:32am: Why would they mind living with own people in united China? Why then not vote for it if they are so interested in doing so? They do vote don't they? Your English very similar Victor.
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Reply #16 - Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 12:01pm

issuevoter wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 11:49am:

Unification? Not under the Communists, who have no right to China anyway. Taiwan owes the Chinese Communist Party no allegiance. An invasion would not liberate anyone, it would enslave them. China didn't liberate North Korea, it protected a failing economy to use as a buffer state, and that is why they want Taiwan. You people who talk about liberation should go and live in China for a while.

Did you live in China?

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Reply #17 - Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 12:06pm

lee wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 11:56am:

athos wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 10:32am:

Why would they mind living with own people in united China?

Why then not vote for it if they are so interested in doing so? They do vote don't they? Roll Eyes

Your English very similar Victor. Wink

Your paranoia and Yobbo Australian very similar Rhino.

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16434 Gender:	Re: If China invades Taiwan.... Reply #18 - Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 12:07pm athos wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 12:06pm: Your paranoia and Yobbo Australian very similar Rhino. It only paranoia if not true.
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Reply #19 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 9:07am

This video explains Taiwan is part of China, even Mongolia is part of China before. Some statements are not accurate / correct, but given the rough history of Taiwan, China.

China traditional enemy was Russia. Russia occupied far east territory over 1 million square kilometres from China. Unfortunately, US wants to be China's enemy now.

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Reply #20 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:05am

Victor Sunny wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

This video explains Taiwan is part of China, even Mongolia is part of China before. Some statements are not accurate / correct, but given the rough history of Taiwan, China.

China traditional enemy was Russia. Russia occupied far east territory over 1 million square kilometres from China. Unfortunately, US wants to be China's enemy now.

Certainly no different to Europe with regard to border changes and empires rising and falling... In fact, no different to anywhere in the world.

That has been a theme throughout all of human history, so it's not only unsurprising that it also happened within this vast region, it would be astonishing if it had not.

So what's your point?

That international relations are exceedingly complex?

That territorial claims on non-integrated land will and do exist today?

That human cultural and ethnic memory of injustice, conquest and defeat is long?

So...

Should, say, Germany recognise in perpetuity the Oder-Neisse line (something which the Poles requested and which James Baker scoffed at 'given European history')?

Sovereignty and territorial claims are an ineradicable part of human history and its future, and will remain so as long as humans exist in large complex societies; and, like tides of seas and oceans, will ebb and flow... perpetually.

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Reply #21 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:15am

Yadda wrote on Mar 31^st, 2021 at 7:45pm:

If China invades Taiwan....

What will happen to the world we now know ?

If China does invade Taiwan....

Will the U.S. [under president Biden] simply acquiesce to Chinese aggression over Taiwan ?

~25 million people live in Taiwan.

Or, will the U.S. and China 'come into conflict'.

As much as Joe Biden and everyone else would be so pissed off
I doubt they would start WW3 with a nuclear power - China -
over Taiwan.

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Reply #22 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:28am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:15am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 31^st, 2021 at 7:45pm:

If China invades Taiwan....

What will happen to the world we now know ?

If China does invade Taiwan....

Will the U.S. [under president Biden] simply acquiesce to Chinese aggression over Taiwan ?

~25 million people live in Taiwan.

Or, will the U.S. and China 'come into conflict'.

As much as Joe Biden and everyone else would be so pissed off
I doubt they would start WW3 with a nuclear power - China -
over Taiwan.

Why not? They started the second one over Poland and the first one over Austria-Hungary and Serbia.

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Reply #23 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:33am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:15am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 31^st, 2021 at 7:45pm:

If China invades Taiwan....

What will happen to the world we now know ?

If China does invade Taiwan....

Will the U.S. [under president Biden] simply acquiesce to Chinese aggression over Taiwan ?

~25 million people live in Taiwan.

Or, will the U.S. and China 'come into conflict'.

As much as Joe Biden and everyone else would be so pissed off
I doubt they would start WW3 with a nuclear power - China -
over Taiwan.

Why not? They started the second one over Poland and the first one over Austria-Hungary and Serbia.

Germany didn't have extinction level nuclear weapons.

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Reply #24 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:44am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:33am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:15am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 31^st, 2021 at 7:45pm:

If China invades Taiwan....

What will happen to the world we now know ?

If China does invade Taiwan....

Will the U.S. [under president Biden] simply acquiesce to Chinese aggression over Taiwan ?

~25 million people live in Taiwan.

Or, will the U.S. and China 'come into conflict'.

As much as Joe Biden and everyone else would be so pissed off
I doubt they would start WW3 with a nuclear power - China -
over Taiwan.

Why not? They started the second one over Poland and the first one over Austria-Hungary and Serbia.

Germany didn't have extinction level nuclear weapons.

And?

India and Pakistan have gone to war.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95495 Melbourne Gender:	Re: If China invades Taiwan.... Reply #25 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:47am NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:44am: And? India and Pakistan have gone to war. You better hope that China and the USA don't start a war.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: If China invades Taiwan.... Reply #26 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:59am Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:47am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:44am: And? India and Pakistan have gone to war. You better hope that China and the USA don't start a war. Containment of the CCP is the plan right now.
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Reply #27 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 11:44am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:44am:

And?

India and Pakistan have gone to war.

You better hope that China and the USA don't start a war.

Containment of the CCP is the plan right now.

If China and the USA start a war Australia will suffer a huge collateral damage primarily because of the US military base in Darwin.

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Reply #28 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 12:01pm

athos wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 11:44am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:44am:

And?

India and Pakistan have gone to war.

You better hope that China and the USA don't start a war.

Containment of the CCP is the plan right now.

If China and the USA start a war Australia will suffer a huge collateral damage primarily because of the US military base in Darwin.

Democracy is worth fighting for... Totalitarianism is worth fighting against.

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Victor Sunny Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 377 Gender:	Re: If China invades Taiwan.... Reply #29 - Apr 11^th, 2021 at 3:11pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:47am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2021 at 10:44am: And? India and Pakistan have gone to war. You better hope that China and the USA don't start a war. Cold war already started. Hot war is unlikely unless there will be a crazy president in US.
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