cods wrote on May 11
th, 2021 at 8:37am:
nothing wil change the facts that Chauvin knelt on Georges neck for over 9 minutes...
A witness in the trial said that Chauvin repositioned his knee in a "shimmy move" (if I have that act correctly named) where Chauvin went from putting his knee on Floyd's shoulder to moving the knee to the neck. I think that was shown to happen in the last 3 minutes of the bystander footage before Chauvin got up.
Quote:no one cares if he meant to kill him.... the FACT is he did...
I think the law cares whether someone means to kill someone else. It is the difference between accidental death and murder. I did not say that Chauvin did not commit a homicide. That debate is with two medical examiners who said two different things. Chauvin might well have been trying to get Floyd to pass out so that Chauvin could more easily place Floyd in the police vehicle. Then the death was accidental. Or Chauvin might have been trying to kill Floyd on purpose. I would need to hear a reason (perhaps in an appeal) from Chauvin why he did what he did.
Quote:not only that the man begged for his life over and over again....all the while he was handcuffed face down lying in the road.
Please watch the video of what happened in the 10 minutes before that event. Floyd had been claiming that he was unable to breathe properly. He was hurting. He was claustrophobic. He lashed out in the police vehicle for some reason. Maybe the police provoked Floyd by sticking something sharp into Floyd's side to make Floyd react in that way -- I am very serious on that point. Or Floyd could have been obstinate.
Quote:I am not justifying Floyd's death. I am trying to reason with people that I doubt that Floyd would have lived much passed that day had he not been arrested.
it doesnt sound like that at all.....its a hypothetical how long he might have lived... no point in even discussing it.
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Quote:some people need to take into account how he suffered for 9 minutes each breath was stolen from him he died inch by inch...
I could imagine that Floyd would have had a very uncomfortable last 10 minutes alive. But his death is a combination of health problems and police brutality. If one or the other did not happen, he would likely have lived. But I do not feel saddened that Floyd died in those circumstance. I am angry that Floyd put himself in a position that lead to him getting killed. Chauvin is guilty. I just do not know what would be appropriate as the conviction.
if police brutality contributed one second to his death.. then it is MURDER....we are all going to die, since when is it ok for anyone to kneel on a persons neck for 9 minutes?????
And I speak as a person who has suffered more violence than most people. You would have to have lived in a war zone, worked in emergency services, worked as a bouncer. But I doubt that those groups would have experienced being shot or run down by a vehicle or knocked down in a blow from a blunt object, etc.