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Reply #30 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:09pm
 
rhino wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 10:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:47am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:27am:
It's not cancel culture, it's not book burning and the books aren't even banned.

The company themselves have made a decision based on their consultation with school, teachers and parents.

Free Market bitches.

Also, have a read of this,

The Cat is Out of the Bag: Orientalism, AntiBlackness, and White Supremacy in Dr. Seuss's Children's Books

Also, this all started to gain major traction under Trump in 2019, although a lot of people had concerns much earlier, so if you think this private company's decision based on community consultation is the President's fault, at least blame the right one.





Dear Mr Sad,
don't get sucked in -
it's the new political correctness gone mad.
It's what Biden voters wanted.
The books are indeed racist. We dont live in 1950 anymore.



Time for a good book burning?

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Reply #31 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:19pm
 
Book burning doesnt work Booby, obviously you never heard of electronic media.
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Reply #32 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:32pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:27am:
It's not cancel culture, it's not book burning and the books aren't even banned.

The company themselves have made a decision based on their consultation with school, teachers and parents.

Free Market bitches.

Also, have a read of this,

The Cat is Out of the Bag: Orientalism, AntiBlackness, and White Supremacy in Dr. Seuss's Children's Books

Also, this all started to gain major traction under Trump in 2019, although a lot of people had concerns much earlier, so if you think this private company's decision based on community consultation is the President's fault, at least blame the right one.




Cartoons ARE about stereotypes: exaggerated recognisable characteristics.

By this measure EVERY cartoon depicting an African or an Asian is racist. This is like the Muslim ban on depicting Mohammed.

Cartoon by a black cartoonist, anticipating BLM protests. Will he be banned?

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Reply #33 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:32pm
 
rhino wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:19pm:
Book burning doesn't work Bobby, obviously you never heard of electronic media.


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Reply #34 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:38pm
 
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/book-burning


The May 1933 book burning in Nazi Germany had a precedent in nineteenth century Germany. In 1817, German student associations ...

"Where they burn books, they will also ultimately burn people."


Introduction

Book burning has a long and dark history.

Book burning refers to the ritual destruction by fire of books or other written materials. Usually carried out in a public context, the burning of books represents an element of censorship and usually proceeds from a cultural, religious, or political opposition to the materials in question.

The burning of books under the Nazi regime on May 10, 1933, is perhaps the most famous book burning in history.




On May 10, 1933, German students under the Nazi regime burned tens of thousands of books nationwide. These book burnings marked the beginning of a period of extensive censorship and control of culture in Adolf Hitler's escalating reign of terror.

In this short film, a Holocaust survivor, an Iranian author, an American literary critic, and two Museum historians discuss the Nazi book burnings and why totalitarian regimes often target culture, particularly literature.
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Reply #35 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 3:16pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:27am:
It's not cancel culture, it's not book burning and the books aren't even banned.

The company themselves have made a decision based on their consultation with school, teachers and parents.

Free Market bitches.

Also, have a read of this,

The Cat is Out of the Bag: Orientalism, AntiBlackness, and White Supremacy in Dr. Seuss's Children's Books

Also, this all started to gain major traction under Trump in 2019, although a lot of people had concerns much earlier, so if you think this private company's decision based on community consultation is the President's fault, at least blame the right one.



You have to understand how big business works.

netflix banned "gone with the wind"

why?

because netflix are friends of the oppressed african american?

NO !!!!!!

netflix have seen their profits go up double under covid.

and , under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do they want to be a target for the the "poor and the oppressed" to come after their cash.

that would affect their ability to pay for yachts and mistresses!!!

what to do, so they can appear to be "friends of the down trodden"

ban a book or a movie....costs them NOTHING.

pay increased corporate taxes to provide better schools and hospitals for poor african americans.....NEVER.

the WOKE corporates use it as a smokescreen to throw dumb poor people off the scent.

they chuck woke ideas around and then retire to their yachts and have a good chuckle at bidens stupid supporters who fell for it
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Reply #36 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 3:29pm
 
Good post Aqua,
we should never be burning books or banning movies.
This is sounding like 1984 -
changing our history in the ministry of truth.
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Reply #37 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 3:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 1:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 12:41pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You, as per usual, misrepresent what I said, Soren.  Why can't you be honest for a change?  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



No, Bbbwian. You misrepresent/lie about exactly what I said you lied about.


Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 11:13am:
America has a long, long history of removing books from libraries and school shelves because they "offended" people.  They have held trials (the infamous "Monkey Trial" of 1925 against the teaching of Evolution) of teachers that defied bans on the teaching of scientific theories.  They are as bad as the Inquisition was in the 16th century.   Remember  Galileo Galilei?  Bobby, you appear to be somewhat behind the times.  Under Reagan and Bush II, many books were "burned" for daring to offend the conservative ideas on thought...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Anyone who equates 16th century inquisition with 20th century American court cases around censorship is an ignorant idiot, ignorant about both the inquisition and modern censorship trials in Anglo jurisdictions.


What happened to Galileo Galilei, Soren?  IIRC he was put on trial before the Inquisition because he said that the "planets moved".  He was found guilty and his works were burned and he was imprisoned.  So, what happened in America in the 20th century?  The authors were placed on trial and their works were destroyed.  In some cases, they were imprisoned.  Much difference between the two?  The reasons why they were put on trial might have appeared different but at their hearts, their trials were the same - they challenged the established orthodoxy.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The unsupported assertion that there were book burning under Reagan and Bush , or even book 'burnings', is so idiotic that only someone like you would make it and only the likes of SadRoo would defended it.


Look at the work, Book Burnings by Cal Thomas.  He has established a long history of booking burning and censorship in the US.  I meant it though, as a figurative term, hence the use of double quotes, not a literal one.  Cal Thomas was a communications director for Jerry Falwell.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Every time you are caught out being an idiot/liar/ignorant/all of the above, you yawn or, worse, claim that people 'misunderstand' or 'misrepresent' you. But they get you exactly, Bbwian.


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Reply #38 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 4:01pm
 
Recent book burnings in the West:
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November, 2013: Works by Jewish and “Transgressive” Authors

As recently as fall of last year, the neo-Nazi group Magyar Nemzeti Arcvonal (Hungarian National Frontline) was orchestrating book burnings on the anniversary of Kristallnacht. The targeted literature, posted on their website (21st century book burning at its best), ranged from the obvious — “Zionist prints” — to the ironic — “chauvinistic and hate-mongering pieces.” The group wore camouflage as they tossed books, such as those by Jewish poet Miklos Radnoti, who was murdered on a death march in Hungary during the Holocaust, into the flames. Of course neo-Nazi book burnings are nothing new, but the recentness of this incident and Magyar Nemzeti Arcvonal use of technology to take their destruction to the next level is alarming.

3. July, 2012: Fifty Shades of Grey by E. L. James

Over the summer of 2012, two Cleveland DJs organized a Fifty Shades of Grey burning, which they said was prompted by calls to their station complaining about the novel. Participants brought their own copies of James’s work to destroy, and one woman even contributed her Nook to the cause. The local fire department was called in to ensure the safety of the book burners, who destroyed about 20 to 25 copies of the paperback. Participants cited everything from the book’s treatment of women to it being, well, just plain annoying as reasons to consign it to the flames. Literati likely aren’t weeping over the loss, but the idea of firefighters moderating the safety of a book burning hits a little too close to Fahrenheit 451 for comfort.

4. June, 2011: The Book of Negroes by Lawrence Hill

Angry over the word “negro” in the title of Hill’s best-selling novel, the Netherland’s Foundation to Honor and Restore Payments to Victims of Slavery in Suriname staged a public burning of the work’s cover. Prior to the event, the group contacted Hill and requested that he change the title as “it’s insulting to the black community.” The author defended his book, explaining that the name was a nod to a historical document featured in it. The novel has, however, been published under different titles in various locations; some copies in the U.S., Australia and New Zealand bear the title Someone Knows My Name and copies in Quebec are titled Aminata. The debate over Hill’s title raises questions about whether progressive causes should employ such reactionary tactics. (Our opinion, obviously, is no, they shouldn't.)

5. March, 2011: The Quran

Pastor Terry Jones burned a copy of the Quran at his Florida church on March 20, 2011 following a Facebook threat that he would burn the Muslim holy book on September 11 to commemorate the World Trade Center attacks. The September 11 event was called off following the involvement of various U.S. and world leaders, but not before it inspired similar burnings in Springfield, Tennessee and Topeka, Kansas, which in turn inspired protests in Kashmir that resulted in the deaths of 13 civilians. After Jones followed through with his burning in March, protests in Afghanistan ended with 30 casualties. Jones was later caught in 2013 attempting another burning of the Quran — 2,998 copies, one book representing every victim of the September 11 attacks — but was arrested before he could continue.

6. September, 2010: Operation Dark Heart by Anthony Shaffer

When former Defense Intelligence Agency Officer and Army Reserve Colonel Shaffer wrote a memoir about his experience in Afghanistan, St. Martin’s Press secured permission from the Army before going ahead with publication. When the C.I.A and the N.S.A, however, were given the book with all other reviewers, they demanded the text be altered, given what they felt was classified information that it contained (such as the names of officers in Afghanistan). The Department of Defense subsequently purchased and burned around 9,500 copies of the first printing of Operation Dark Heart. “Someone buying 10,000 books to suppress a story in this digital age is ludicrous,” Shaffer rightly pointed out, though a second edition of his book deleted previously included details and censored classified texts.

7. Annually Since 2009: The Bible


On October 31, 2009, the Amazing Grace Baptist Church in Canton, North Carolina planned to celebrate the evening with a book burning, complete with a sign advertising the event. Pastor Marc Grizzard had declared the night would be spent burning any media deemed “satanic,” which included ... the Bible?

The pastor and his flock, claiming that the only accurate Bible was the first King James translation, claimed all other editions were “perversions” and therefore had to be tossed into the flame. The 2009 burning was called off due to weather and protesters, and a “book-tearing” was held inside the church instead. Since their original book-shredding event, the church has held an annual destruction of “satanic” materials.


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Reply #39 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 4:03pm
 
More recent book burnings in the West:

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8. June, 2003: The Independent Library Project

The Independent Library Project was founded in 1998 based on Fidel Castro’s assertion that "In Cuba there are no prohibited books, only those we do not have the money to buy." When groups of intellectuals and librarians attempted to establish private libraries outside of the government framework, however, they were met with harsh opposition. Beginning in 2003, librarians were taken to trial by the Cuban Department of Interior, with many judges ordering the incineration of the Independent Library’s entire contents.

Some of the offensive items included books on Martin Luther King and the United States Constitution, and the United Nation’s “Universal Declaration of Human Rights,” all of which were declared to “lack usefulness.” Although a plea for help issued by the Independent Library Project to the American Library Association was ignored, author Ray Bradbury fought vehemently for the organization to step in and defend the Cuban librarians. Cuban scholar Carlos N. M. Eire, a professor at Yale, also wrote a public letter to the ALA in which he questioned, “How can the ALA mount a successful campaign in the United States to protest the Patriot Act when it refuses to condemn one of the most flagrant violations of its own principles a mere ninety miles from American shores?”

9. December, 2001: The Harry Potter Series by J. K. Rowling

A plethora of religious authorities have condemned the Potter books, but some have taken their sentiments to the next level by orchestrating burnings of the series. After delivering a sermon on the evils of the books, Pastor Jack Brock of the Christ Community Church in Alamogordo led his congregation in a book burning to dispose of un-godly items, including Harry Potter novels. Along with copies of Rowling’s books, AC/DC records (What a throwback!), Stephen King novels and ouija boards were thrown into the bonfire. Pastor Brock admitted to having never read any of the Potter books he was destroying, and many community members protested the burning by wearing witch hats and waving signs, one of which read, “Hitler - Bin Laden - Pastor Brock - what great company.”

10. September, 2000: Cop Killer by Dan Flynn

When Flynn, a conservative author, was invited to speak at Berkeley about his booklet (subtitled How Mumia Abu-Jamal Conned Millions into Believing He was Framed), students protested the visit vehemently. After Flynn concluded his talk, they seized copies of the author’s booklet and held a book burning, leaving him to be escorted to his car by police. Flynn later remarked of the event, “The ongoing censorship of any speech contrary to the prevailing ideological dogma at Berkeley is a disgrace.”

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Reply #40 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 4:16pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 3:16pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:27am:
It's not cancel culture, it's not book burning and the books aren't even banned.

The company themselves have made a decision based on their consultation with school, teachers and parents.

Free Market bitches.

Also, have a read of this,

The Cat is Out of the Bag: Orientalism, AntiBlackness, and White Supremacy in Dr. Seuss's Children's Books

Also, this all started to gain major traction under Trump in 2019, although a lot of people had concerns much earlier, so if you think this private company's decision based on community consultation is the President's fault, at least blame the right one.



You have to understand how big business works.


Let me stop you there.

I understand perfectly well how business works, big or small.  You can't be little to no government intrusion into peoples lives, leave it to the free market, then when you don't like their decisions demand some sort of regulation or cry wolf as if their private business choices are the same as a government mandate or law.

Stop being such cry babies.  You've got the free market making decisions.

You've exposed that your issues were never with the Government but you were just using it as an excuse.
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Reply #41 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm
 
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/book-burning


The May 1933 book burning in Nazi Germany had a precedent in nineteenth century Germany. In 1817, German student associations ...

"Where they burn books, they will also ultimately burn people."


Introduction

Book burning has a long and dark history.

Book burning refers to the ritual destruction by fire of books or other written materials. Usually carried out in a public context, the burning of books represents an element of censorship and usually proceeds from a cultural, religious, or political opposition to the materials in question.

The burning of books under the Nazi regime on May 10, 1933, is perhaps the most famous book burning in history.




On May 10, 1933, German students under the Nazi regime burned tens of thousands of books nationwide. These book burnings marked the beginning of a period of extensive censorship and control of culture in Adolf Hitler's escalating reign of terror.

In this short film, a Holocaust survivor, an Iranian author, an American literary critic, and two Museum historians discuss the Nazi book burnings and why totalitarian regimes often target culture, particularly literature.

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Reply #42 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 5:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 11:13am:
America has a long, long history of removing books from libraries and school shelves because they "offended" people.  They have held trials (the infamous "Monkey Trial" of 1925 against the teaching of Evolution) of teachers that defied bans on the teaching of scientific theories.  They are as bad as the Inquisition was in the 16th century.   Remember  Galileo Galilei?  Bobby, you appear to be somewhat behind the times.  Under Reagan and Bush II, many books were "burned" for daring to offend the conservative ideas on thought...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The 16th century??? Aristotle's works were lost to the west for nearly 1000 years due to the rise of Christianity and the church fathers seeing nothing in Aristotle but a threat to the supremacy of scriptural texts.
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Reply #43 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 5:17pm
 
rhino wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:19pm:
Book burning doesnt work Booby, obviously you never heard of electronic media.


Biden's burning that too. Kindles, e-readers,, PDF documents, you name it.

PATHETIC, LEFTARDS, JUST PATHETIC.

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Reply #44 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 5:19pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:08pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Can anyone name any society that was improved by a dictator burning banning or censoring books?



Did Biden ban the book?


Just about, dear. He'll ban the Bible next, you watch.

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