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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16953 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Mt Warning to be closed Reply #30 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:14pm But, but, but I've been given permission by a Bundjalung elder..
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Mt Warning to be closed Reply #31 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:35pm Jasin wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 6:29pm: Cods wants Brian's children. i would take poison first...
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Mt Warning to be closed Reply #32 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:38pm Jasin wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 6:29pm: Cods wants Brian's children. leave me out of your fantasies thanks..
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Re: Mt Warning to be closed
Reply #33 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:40pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:14pm:

But, but, but I've been given permission by a Bundjalung elder..

Then why are their 'spiritual needs' so exclusive that they exclude everyone else? Maybe he could tell us....

Every 'spiritual movement' in the world wants to share widely and become the True Path - what's wrong with the Coon Cheese haters? Just a little thing among themselves, eh? Nobody else allowed....

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Reply #34 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:43pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:14pm:

But, but, but I've been given permission by a Bundjalung elder..

Then why are their 'spiritual needs' so exclusive that they exclude everyone else? Maybe he could tell us....

Every 'spiritual movement' in the world wants to share widely and become the True Path - what's wrong with the Coon Cheese haters? Just a little thing among themselves, eh? Nobody else allowed....

We were kind enough to pick up an old Abo hitchhiker. I guess that got us some cred.

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Reply #35 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Are you offering walking tours to the top of the Sistine Chapel, St.Pauls in London or other notable places which are religious in tone? How about the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or the other places of note around the world? Why not respect Indigenous Australians spiritual needs for a change? Is it too hard to not go for a walk up a mountain? Really? Roll Eyes

Who built Mt Warning?

Nature. Who worships Mt. Warning? Do you? No. Do Indigenous Australians? Yes. Time their views were given some respect for a change I think. We don't need mining companies blowing up Gorges or destroying Indigenous sites. We don't need gadabout tourists climbing a mountain. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

How many Indigenous Australians are we talking who say they regularly observe the old cultural rituals relating to that mountain? Do you know? Have you researched to find out. And how often each year would they need exclusive access to the mountain to practice their rituals. Sounds like there's lots of room for accomodating each other. And surely there is a point where the number of Indigenous Australians who practice their rituals there is so low that it becomes unreasonable to stop the number of keen nature tourists who want to walk it each year. There'd be plenty of nature walkers who would say that their walks in nature are a spiritual experiance for them. Aren't their spiritual needs just as valid. And did you make that up about a mining company having plans to dig there? Whats that based on?

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Reply #36 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:50pm

Jest wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Are you offering walking tours to the top of the Sistine Chapel, St.Pauls in London or other notable places which are religious in tone? How about the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or the other places of note around the world? Why not respect Indigenous Australians spiritual needs for a change? Is it too hard to not go for a walk up a mountain? Really? Roll Eyes

Who built Mt Warning?

Nature. Who worships Mt. Warning? Do you? No. Do Indigenous Australians? Yes. Time their views were given some respect for a change I think. We don't need mining companies blowing up Gorges or destroying Indigenous sites. We don't need gadabout tourists climbing a mountain. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

How many Indigenous Australians are we talking who say they regularly observe the old cultural rituals relating to that mountain? Do you know? Have you researched to find out. And how often each year would they need exclusively access to the mountain to to practice their rituals. Sounds like there's lots of room for accomodating each other. And surely there is a point where the number of Indigenous Australians who practice their rituals there is so low that it becomes unreasonable to stop the number of keen nature tourists who want to walk it each year. There'd be plenty of nature walkers who would say that there walks in nature is a spiritual experiance for them. Arden't their spiritual needs just as valid. And did you make that up about a mining company having plans to dig there? Whats that based on?

I suspect those questions are too hard for yawny boi, he's not quite the full quid.

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Reply #37 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:54pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:50pm:

Jest wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Are you offering walking tours to the top of the Sistine Chapel, St.Pauls in London or other notable places which are religious in tone? How about the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or the other places of note around the world? Why not respect Indigenous Australians spiritual needs for a change? Is it too hard to not go for a walk up a mountain? Really? Roll Eyes

Who built Mt Warning?

Nature. Who worships Mt. Warning? Do you? No. Do Indigenous Australians? Yes. Time their views were given some respect for a change I think. We don't need mining companies blowing up Gorges or destroying Indigenous sites. We don't need gadabout tourists climbing a mountain. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

How many Indigenous Australians are we talking who say they regularly observe the old cultural rituals relating to that mountain? Do you know? Have you researched to find out. And how often each year would they need exclusively access to the mountain to to practice their rituals. Sounds like there's lots of room for accomodating each other. And surely there is a point where the number of Indigenous Australians who practice their rituals there is so low that it becomes unreasonable to stop the number of keen nature tourists who want to walk it each year. There'd be plenty of nature walkers who would say that there walks in nature is a spiritual experiance for them. Arden't their spiritual needs just as valid. And did you make that up about a mining company having plans to dig there? Whats that based on?

I suspect those questions are too hard for yawny boi, he's not quite the full quid.

Yes I've gathered that.

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Re: Mt Warning to be closed
Reply #38 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 11:47pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 10:43pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 9:14pm:

But, but, but I've been given permission by a Bundjalung elder..

Then why are their 'spiritual needs' so exclusive that they exclude everyone else? Maybe he could tell us....

Every 'spiritual movement' in the world wants to share widely and become the True Path - what's wrong with the Coon Cheese haters? Just a little thing among themselves, eh? Nobody else allowed....

I remember you posting that... good work... always give an older bloke a lift...

We were kind enough to pick up an old Abo hitchhiker. I guess that got us some cred.

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Reply #39 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 11:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Are you offering walking tours to the top of the Sistine Chapel, St.Pauls in London or other notable places which are religious in tone? How about the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or the other places of note around the world? Why not respect Indigenous Australians spiritual needs for a change? Is it too hard to not go for a walk up a mountain? Really? Roll Eyes

Who built Mt Warning?

Nature. Who worships Mt. Warning? Do you? No. Do Indigenous Australians? Yes. Time their views were given some respect for a change I think. We don't need mining companies blowing up Gorges or destroying Indigenous sites. We don't need gadabout tourists climbing a mountain. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

So what is this 'worship' they have for it - why is it so exclusive - and what does the dynamiting of gorges etc with historical stuff have to do with Mt Warning?

What EXACTLY are the 'religious' components of their wish to possess it utterly and exclude everyone else from a National park? Why does their presence not disturb the spirits the same as everyone else's? Why do their modern day footprints in boots not upset the 'lend' and damage the rocks the same as everyone else's?

Have you ever seen an Indigenous Australian worship Mt Warning? What is that 'worship' based on? We ALL worship the grandeur of Mt Warning as we pass it, Abos are nothing special in that and most of them couldn't give a rat's arse anyway ..... and even if she or she did 'worship' it - to which I call bullshit - WTF meaning does that have when others worship it as well by climbing it and experience the spiritual elevation of doing so and looking out over a vast vista below?

And why is it so exclusive to Aboriginals that it can't be shared to everyone else - as is their alleged custom??

Nobody was going to blow up Mt Warning... why is it an exclusive Aboriginal place to enjoy? It's a spiritual experience for anyone to climb such things - Aboriginals aren't unique, you know... and they are definitely no more spiritual than anyone else.... and are quite often far less so...

So what is their selfish argument here?

I just want it to spite Whitey and make meself feel important when I'm a crud...

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Mt Warning to be closed Reply #40 - Feb 27^th, 2021 at 12:20am Banana-fingers Haji Gordon found a Bondi cigar on Mount Warning which he claims is evidence his ancestors practiced a religion based on the worship of Bondi Cigars. Banana-fingers Haji Gordon is assembling a flock of extremist dolts to protect his heritage.
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Re: Mt Warning to be closed
Reply #41 - Feb 27^th, 2021 at 12:57am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 27^th, 2021 at 12:20am:

Banana-fingers Haji Gordon found a Bondi cigar on Mount Warning which he claims is evidence his ancestors practiced a religion based on the worship of Bondi Cigars.

Banana-fingers Haji Gordon is assembling a flock of extremist dolts to protect his heritage.

And what did the Coon-loathers find there to prove their position? A few ancient turds? Or did they do a Pascoe... "Yeah - an uncle told me a long time ago that he once climbed that hill... she's a sacred site, yeah..."

What a farken load of codswallop...

You should front Gordon in person, given your propensity to slag off at him every time... or perhaps you could grow a life to compensate for your lack of penis length... not that I give a rat's.... or that there's anything wrong with that...

Anyway - I'm sure Gordon would handle you easily...

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Mt Warning to be closed Reply #42 - Feb 27^th, 2021 at 7:00am Looks lie Ill soon have to identify as an abbo before I can go bush walking or even walk along a beach. What a total load of bull shite
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Reply #43 - Feb 27^th, 2021 at 7:19am

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Are you offering walking tours to the top of the Sistine Chapel, St.Pauls in London or other notable places which are religious in tone? How about the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or the other places of note around the world? Why not respect Indigenous Australians spiritual needs for a change? Is it too hard to not go for a walk up a mountain? Really? Roll Eyes

Who built Mt Warning?

its all about learning gordy progress if you like...

we investigate more today than ever before and its noted just what harm the human race does over many years......

we do destroy things....not always intentionally but none the less it happens

Uluru is a case in point....people using it like a public toilet....Mt Everest another.......I dont know what will happen to the National Park once its closed.. but time will see if it works......it is a shame for people who do the right thing......but we will never eradicate the spoilers..

I'll give you a guess at just who uses it like a public toilet..... or a rubbish tip.

It isn't the tourists.

Besides ..... where did the original inhabitants used to go No.1 & No. 2?

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Reply #44 - Feb 27^th, 2021 at 7:24am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm:

Are you offering walking tours to the top of the Sistine Chapel, St.Pauls in London or other notable places which are religious in tone? How about the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or the other places of note around the world? Why not respect Indigenous Australians spiritual needs for a change? Is it too hard to not go for a walk up a mountain? Really? Roll Eyes

And if they were made off limits to Aboriginal people.... would that be OK? Roll Eyes

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