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Do we really want to host the Olympics?
Feb 25th, 2021 at 6:56am
 
Apparently, Brisbane is the IOC's "preferred candidate" for the 2032 Olympic Games.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/brisbane-put-on-ioc-fast-track-to-host-2032-olym...

Granted, I haven't seen the so-called "master plan" behind the Brisbane "bid", but I do question whether the so-called "benefits" of hosting are somewhat overblown.

Apparently I'm not the only one.

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A growing number of economists argue that both the short- and long-term benefits of hosting the games are at best exaggerated and at worst nonexistent, leaving many host countries with large debts and maintenance liabilities.


https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/economics-hosting-olympic-games

At Federal, State (and likely even local) level, we'll still be struggling with post-pandemic debt by the time these games go ahead. One wonders if it is wise to take on more debt (particularly the QLD Govt.)

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Reply #1 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am
 
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.
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Reply #2 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:20am
 
NO

Its a waste of money pandering over a bunch of no hoper athletes who can run a bit faster or jump a bit higher.

Thats why engineers built vehicles that can go even faster and fly high.

what a total waste of money.
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Reply #3 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 8:45am
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:20am:
NO

Its a waste of money pandering over a bunch of no hoper athletes who can run a bit faster or jump a bit higher.

Thats why engineers built vehicles that can go even faster and fly high.

what a total waste of money.


Jesus!

I agree with Valkie.

We don't want it.

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Reply #4 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 8:54am
 
I think the Glory Days of the Olympics is over to be honest.... I for sure wouldnt travel half way around the world to watch the events....we are saturated with sport these days....a bit ho hum....

plus we hear al about the cheating and drugs  after the event..
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Reply #5 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 9:14am
 
It's not the first time this has come up; after the 1982 Commonwealth Games, the Brisbane city council decided to apply for the Olympics. Fortunately, it failed, but it was funny while it lasted.
All correspondence for the games had to be in French so the ordering department of the council issued lots of orders for the translation of French letters...
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Reply #6 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:00am
 
No. Just an excuse to spend taxpayers money on a wank fest for a handful of elite athletes, politicians and their hangers on. Little of permanent value ever comes to the people of the host country.
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Reply #7 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:08am
 
cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 8:54am:
I think the Glory Days of the Olympics is over to be honest.... I for sure wouldnt travel half way around the world to watch the events....we are saturated with sport these days....a bit ho hum....

plus we hear al about the cheating and drugs  after the event..


Indeed.

It's an outdated concept.

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Reply #8 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:24am
 
Belgarion wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:00am:
No. Just an excuse to spend taxpayers money on a wank fest for a handful of elite athletes, politicians and their hangers on. Little of permanent value ever comes to the people of the host country.


But... but... but... the host cities always get nice new sports stadiums which will probably get little use after the Olympics, especially during global pandemics such as the one we have now and cost taxpayers a fortune to maintain.

Optus Stadium here in Perth comes to mind (even though it has nothing to do with the Olympics).

Jobs, jobs, jobs... that's what its all about.
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Reply #9 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:54am
 
The Gold Coast had the Commonwealth Games not that long ago. Roll Eyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Commonwealth_Games
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Australia is already in $7.75 trillion  of debt.
That's enough isn't it?

http://australiandebtclock.com.au/
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Reply #11 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 11:09am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 11:05am:
Australia is already in $7.75 trillion  of debt.
That's enough isn't it?

http://australiandebtclock.com.au/


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The Olympics SHOUKD be held in Greece every 3 years.

All competing countries could contribute to the upkeep of the facilities and maintain the Olympic accommodation.

That way it's the same every three years and there are no issues.

The parasite Olympians don't get a free for all junket, they simply compete.

Save everyone a fortune.
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Reply #13 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:59pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
The Olympics SHOUKD be held in Greece every 3 years.

All competing countries could contribute to the upkeep of the facilities and maintain the Olympic accommodation.

That way it's the same every three years and there are no issues.

The parasite Olympians don't get a free for all junket, they simply compete.

Save everyone a fortune.



You mean every 4
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Reply #14 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:59pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
The Olympics SHOUKD be held in Greece every 3 years.

All competing countries could contribute to the upkeep of the facilities and maintain the Olympic accommodation.

That way it's the same every three years and there are no issues.

The parasite Olympians don't get a free for all junket, they simply compete.

Save everyone a fortune.



You mean every 4


Whatever......who gives a shite.
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Reply #15 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 1:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:59pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
The Olympics SHOUKD be held in Greece every 3 years.

All competing countries could contribute to the upkeep of the facilities and maintain the Olympic accommodation.

That way it's the same every three years and there are no issues.

The parasite Olympians don't get a free for all junket, they simply compete.

Save everyone a fortune.



You mean every 4


Whatever......who gives a shite.



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Reply #16 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 1:43pm
 
An outdated event now merely a means of bolstering national pomposity.........absolute nonsense, and a complete waste of the taxpayers money.........
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Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:59pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
The Olympics SHOUKD be held in Greece every 3 years.

All competing countries could contribute to the upkeep of the facilities and maintain the Olympic accommodation.

That way it's the same every three years and there are no issues.

The parasite Olympians don't get a free for all junket, they simply compete.

Save everyone a fortune.



You mean every 4


Whatever......who gives a shite.



the athletes   I would imagine  well the professional ones at any rate.....

and then theres that awful committee  that gets paid to run around the world deliberating who gets them..




make sense to some. Undecided
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Reply #18 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 4:00pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
The Olympics SHOUKD be held in Greece every 3 years.

All competing countries could contribute to the upkeep of the facilities and maintain the Olympic accommodation.

That way it's the same every three years and there are no issues.

The parasite Olympians don't get a free for all junket, they simply compete.

Save everyone a fortune.



Every 4 years - I agree.
It would be so much cheaper.
Make Greece the permanent home of the Olympics.
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Reply #19 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 4:06pm
 
Given 85% of the facilities are already up and running, I think it's a great idea.

For the next ten years Qld will received more free advertising around the world then ever before. The Gold Coast went gang busters in the lead up to the Com games .... everyone was busy. Businesses prospered. This will do the same for Brisbane.

And I seem to recall all the naysayers complaining about the 'waste of money' when Sydney held it too (and every other host city since I was a kid). It turned out to be good for Sydney.
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Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.
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I will actually be interested in how China deals with the 2022 winter Olympics. Will they have any friends by then?
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UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:38am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.


Actually - no we can't afford it - & as I said we have far greater issues to deal with.
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Reply #23 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:02am
 
No.
Waste of time and money.
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Australia is already in $7.75 trillion  of debt.
That's enough isn't it?


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Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:12am:
Australia is already in $7.75 trillion  of debt.
That's enough isn't it?


http://australiandebtclock.com.au/



Yes, but if Queensland wants to host the Olympics, wouldn't that be the Queensland State that would pay for it?
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Neferti wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:12am:
Australia is already in $7.75 trillion  of debt.
That's enough isn't it?


http://australiandebtclock.com.au/



Yes, but if Queensland wants to host the Olympics, wouldn't that be the Queensland State that would pay for it?



It still adds to our debt.
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Reply #27 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 7:33pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:02am:
No.
Waste of time and money.



Correct.

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Reply #28 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 6:50am
 
Interesting - and topical - opinion piece on Fairafx/Nine this AM...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/what-mark-would-a-brisbane-games-leave-on-the-co...
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Neferti wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 8:12am:
Australia is already in $7.75 trillion  of debt.
That's enough isn't it?


http://australiandebtclock.com.au/



Yes, but if Queensland wants to host the Olympics, wouldn't that be the Queensland State that would pay for it?


QLDs the host location/geographic wise & will be required to stump up "x" amount .......

The country of Australia is the actual host...... so the Feds will be expected to stump up a fair swag.

None the less it's all tax payer money ...... & we as a state & the country can't afford it.

Stuff this "keeping up with the Joneses" attitude.
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Mix_Master wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 6:50am:
Interesting - and topical - opinion piece on Fairafx/Nine this AM...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/what-mark-would-a-brisbane-games-leave-on-the-co...


A photo of an empty Olympic Park Boulevard in Sydney wouldn't have been because of Covid19 would it?
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Reply #31 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 11:50am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 7:52am:
Mix_Master wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 6:50am:
Interesting - and topical - opinion piece on Fairafx/Nine this AM...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/what-mark-would-a-brisbane-games-leave-on-the-co...


A photo of an empty Olympic Park Boulevard in Sydney wouldn't have been because of Covid19 would it?



Who knows...or cares?

The central tenet of the article stands, irrespective of when the photo was taken.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was taken during a lockdown period. Wouldn't be the first time a bit of "licence" has been taken when selecting photos to make a journalistic point...
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Reply #32 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 11:58am
 
I do not care either way but it is just as likely to stimulate a flat economy than to produce yet another covid spike.

Brisbane is likely a preferred option because it is currently perceived as the safe option. This may not be a factor in the final decision. Sydney were not favoured when they won.

This is the benchmark point in the process where the countries behind in the race know that they have to increase their backdoor offers if they want to win.
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Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 6:34am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:38am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.


Actually - no we can't afford it - & as I said we have far greater issues to deal with.


I doubt very much that there are far greater issues to deal with that would prevent an Olympics from proceeding. I might get to witness one of the last Olympic Games being held in the 21st century.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 3:50pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 6:34am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:38am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.


Actually - no we can't afford it - & as I said we have far greater issues to deal with.


I doubt very much that there are far greater issues to deal with that would prevent an Olympics from proceeding. I might get to witness one of the last Olympic Games being held in the 21st century.


Have you ever heard of a pandemic?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 3:50pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 6:34am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:38am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.


Actually - no we can't afford it - & as I said we have far greater issues to deal with.


I doubt very much that there are far greater issues to deal with that would prevent an Olympics from proceeding. I might get to witness one of the last Olympic Games being held in the 21st century.


Have you ever heard of a pandemic?


Are you seriously concerned about catching a cold at an Olympics in 11 years time? We are hosting sporting events in Australia right now without any problems. How easily manipulated you are.
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Reply #36 - Feb 28th, 2021 at 1:38am
 
Only sucker cities take the pompously costly Olympics now.
Imagine all the sick people coming in with their lurgees from all parts of the world. Sydney got severely sick during 2000.

The Olympics are a Racist Organisation.
They are racist against White, Brown and Grey People - going by their Flag. Which is like not including Australians, Middle-Easterners and Oceanians.

8 regions of the World, 8 Races of the World
(and the Purple 'One' Race of Antarctica).

We all know also that australian women are the Alpha's of sport, the men are the Betas.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 3:50pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 6:34am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:38am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.


Actually - no we can't afford it - & as I said we have far greater issues to deal with.


I doubt very much that there are far greater issues to deal with that would prevent an Olympics from proceeding. I might get to witness one of the last Olympic Games being held in the 21st century.


Well we'll see if the July 2021 Olympics in Japan go ahead.

Not that I said they wouldn't
'proceed" .... I said we can't afford them here.

They can go ahead somewhere else for all I care ....

and yes this country & this state
(QLD) has far bigger fish to fry than to be forking out(taxpayers money) for a showboating event like the Olympics.

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Reply #38 - Mar 1st, 2021 at 7:12pm
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:17am:
Well we'll see if the July 2021 Olympics in Japan go ahead.



if we haven't gotten on top of covid by 2031 then we're screwed anyway
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Reply #39 - Mar 1st, 2021 at 7:53pm
 
I don't.

I think sports/games should be targeted toward mass involvement, rather the individual best 'whoever' and the ensuing 'win at all costs' mentality.
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Reply #40 - Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:45pm
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 3:50pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 6:34am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:38am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:18am:
It had been mooted well prior to the Cov19 pandemic.

I believed we couldn't afford it then & we can't afford it now for 2032.

There are actually too many home grown matters that require the time & money that would be required for this "show pony" event.

Look at the cock up with arrangements for the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games courtesy of old passion fingers Peter Beattie.


We can afford another Olympics, 32 years after the last one. The Olympics in Australia does help our reputation overseas and promotes the country. The last Olympics in Sydney did show our people to be really friendly and our games went by professionally.


Actually - no we can't afford it - & as I said we have far greater issues to deal with.


I doubt very much that there are far greater issues to deal with that would prevent an Olympics from proceeding. I might get to witness one of the last Olympic Games being held in the 21st century.


Well we'll see if the July 2021 Olympics in Japan go ahead.

Not that I said they wouldn't
'proceed" .... I said we can't afford them here.

They can go ahead somewhere else for all I care ....

and yes this country & this state
(QLD) has far bigger fish to fry than to be forking out(taxpayers money) for a showboating event like the Olympics.


If sporting events can take place this year, even in a limited capacity, I would dare say that the Olympics in Japan will take place in 4 months' time. Four months ago, we had basically seen the end of the covid 'epidemic' in Australia, with only a few transmissions taking place.

In 11 years time, if we have not learned from last year about virus transmissions, we are likely to have repeated it before the next two Olympics (Paris and Los Angeles) take place. Surely, we would be aware of how to deal with the problem before the Brisbane Olympics take place.

We fork out money to host NRL, AFL and rugby league/union every year to the tune of millions of dollars. We have hosted World Cup cricket over a period of a fortnight in 2015. No problems there.
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Reply #41 - Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2021 at 7:12pm:
Gnads wrote on Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:17am:
Well we'll see if the July 2021 Olympics in Japan go ahead.



if we haven't gotten on top of covid by 2031 then we're screwed anyway


I could imagine the "Hey! Look at me" culture to have died out by 2030. Replaced by a "nup, not telling" culture.
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Australia should take a back seat for a while, we have had our share of Olympics and should probably stop showing our opulence, sit back, we know we are the best of everything and our athletes get the very best of everything, its our culture but its probably best to tone it down i bit.

I am we are Australia.
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