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The Perseverance has Landed
Feb 19^th, 2021 at 1:16pm

Aussie lady invents way of detecting signs of life with probe called PIXL (short for Planetary Instrument for X-ray Lithochemistry) searching for previous life on Mars

I hope this is not viewed as Jingoism by some, but I feel a sense of pride knowing Aussies were involved in interplanetary research. The article is interesting, the idea for the PIXL started in the Pilbara when studying fossilized rock for evidence of biological presence ions ago

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-02-17/mars-nasa-perserverance-rover-abi...

This video is about the Perseverance rover, the PIXL probe is shown at 14min 25sec

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Perseverance has Landed Reply #1 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 1:29pm Not jingoism at all. Great news for STEM, women in STEM in Australia.
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Re: The Perseverance has Landed
Reply #2 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 3:24pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 1:29pm:

Not jingoism at all. Great news for STEM, women in STEM in Australia.

Agreed. I suspect that there are many inventions quietly being utilised around the planet, which were invented right here. WiFi being just one.

Good on her.

In fact, one of the things I've really liked over the years about space exploration generally, is the fact that it increasingly involves the people of many Nations/creeds/colours etc. working together, toward common goals.

Something of a contrast to what generally happens back here on Earth... Undecided

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Reply #3 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:32pm

I don't see a Future in Mars.
Looks more like a future of what earth would be like after major thermo-nuclear war.
Venus either with its pollutional suicide of greenhouse gases.

To me the two most important entities are Triton and Pluto.
Triton will have no life but will be the best ever 'world' out there to 'support' Human/Earth-like Life taken there. Pluto will have a life of its own - so beautiful, yet so 'deadly' to human and earth-like Life. Pluto - god of the underworld will forever be beyond our reach. Rejecting us, like we did it.

Also, Humans won't be able to live in outer space until we learn to live - underwater. There's always a catch.

Might be 40,000 years before we find an equivalent of Human life out there. I wonder if we'll end up like Aboriginals on this 'island' Earth?

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Re: The Perseverance has Landed
Reply #4 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 9:27pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:32pm:

I don't see a Future in Mars.
Looks more like a future of what earth would be like after major thermo-nuclear war.
Venus either with its pollutional suicide of greenhouse gases.

To me the two most important entities are Triton and Pluto.
Triton will have no life but will be the best ever 'world' out there to 'support' Human/Earth-like Life taken there. Pluto will have a life of its own - so beautiful, yet so 'deadly' to human and earth-like Life. Pluto - god of the underworld will forever be beyond our reach. Rejecting us, like we did it.

Also, Humans won't be able to live in outer space until we learn to live - underwater. There's always a catch.

Might be 40,000 years before we find an equivalent of Human life out there. I wonder if we'll end up like Aboriginals on this 'island' Earth?

There is a future on Mars if we can terraform it
to have a breathable atmosphere.
That technology is more than 1,000 years away.

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Re: The Perseverance has Landed
Reply #5 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 9:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 9:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:32pm:

I don't see a Future in Mars.
Looks more like a future of what earth would be like after major thermo-nuclear war.
Venus either with its pollutional suicide of greenhouse gases.

To me the two most important entities are Triton and Pluto.
Triton will have no life but will be the best ever 'world' out there to 'support' Human/Earth-like Life taken there. Pluto will have a life of its own - so beautiful, yet so 'deadly' to human and earth-like Life. Pluto - god of the underworld will forever be beyond our reach. Rejecting us, like we did it.

Also, Humans won't be able to live in outer space until we learn to live - underwater. There's always a catch.

Might be 40,000 years before we find an equivalent of Human life out there. I wonder if we'll end up like Aboriginals on this 'island' Earth?

There is a future on Mars if we can terraform it
to have a breathable atmosphere.
That technology is more than 1,000 years away.

Can't even fix, save or preserve this one Bobby.
What makes you think that NASA is anywhere near 'sane' enough to think they have what it takes to make Mars a life-sustaining project for humans?

Plus, in my view. Mars is TOO BIG to try and terraform for life. Best start small. Like Triton. Wink

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Re: The Perseverance has Landed
Reply #6 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 9:55pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 9:49pm:

Can't even fix, save or preserve this one Bobby.
What makes you think that NASA is anywhere near 'sane' enough to think they have what it takes to make Mars a life-sustaining project for humans?

Plus, in my view. Mars is TOO BIG to try and terraform for life. Best start small. Like Triton. Wink

It is almost impossible but who knows
what technology we'll have in 1,000 years?

Humanity’s future is glorious. As we master space travel, we’ll hop from one lifeless world to the next. Life will blossom in our path and the galaxy with shimmer with beautiful Earth-like orbs. Hmmm… maybe. This won’t sound so far fetched if we prove we can do it at least once. If we successfully terraform Mars.

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We already have the technology to bring humans safely to Mars and set up small settlements - or at least could do within a generation. But those settlements will need to be cocooned - shielded against the deadly cold, intense radiation, and the fatal lack of atmospheric pressure. Surely if we want to thrive on Mars – to make it into our second home – these settlers, or their descendants, will need to be able open the airlocks, shed their spacesuits, and step out onto a survivable surface. We’ll need to terraform Mars, as our first step in terraforming the galaxy.

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Re: The Perseverance has Landed
Reply #7 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 10:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 9:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:32pm:

I don't see a Future in Mars.
Looks more like a future of what earth would be like after major thermo-nuclear war.
Venus either with its pollutional suicide of greenhouse gases.

To me the two most important entities are Triton and Pluto.
Triton will have no life but will be the best ever 'world' out there to 'support' Human/Earth-like Life taken there. Pluto will have a life of its own - so beautiful, yet so 'deadly' to human and earth-like Life. Pluto - god of the underworld will forever be beyond our reach. Rejecting us, like we did it.

Also, Humans won't be able to live in outer space until we learn to live - underwater. There's always a catch.

Might be 40,000 years before we find an equivalent of Human life out there. I wonder if we'll end up like Aboriginals on this 'island' Earth?

There is a future on Mars if we can terraform it
to have a breathable atmosphere.
That technology is more than 1,000 years away.

bobby,

I watched that 1986 "Aliens" movie too.

Maybe Elon can now just copy the tech that they described in the movie ?

Wink

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Perseverance has Landed Reply #8 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 10:05pm Yadda wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 10:01pm: bobby, I watched that 1986 "Aliens" movie too. Maybe Elon can now just copy the tech that they described in the movie ? [waiting for the pile on ] Watch the video - forgiven namaste
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Re: The Perseverance has Landed
Reply #9 - Feb 20^th, 2021 at 12:14pm

Like I said. Can't even Terraform this one to improve the quality of life. Been making species extinct ever since First Nation peoples wiped out Mega Fauna around the world.

I really don't think American Taxpayers, let alone Australian Taxpayers (via ScoMo's $350+million 'donation' to NASA) should be funding these NASA projects (just because they have some technology to do so) that will all be 'dead ended' for a long time.

...under Corona - do we really want NASA to find a 'microbe' from another Planet to infect us as it would if it got out?

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10306 Gender:	Re: The Perseverance has Landed Reply #11 - Feb 24^th, 2021 at 12:28am Here's some nice large pics from Mars. Includes a selfie of the rover https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/world/gallery/mars-perseverance-rover-scn/ind...
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46487 Gender:	Re: The Perseverance has Landed Reply #12 - Feb 24^th, 2021 at 12:42am Dirt and rocks. Look! More dirt and rocks. Possibly a microbe.
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Reply #13 - Feb 24^th, 2021 at 1:36am

@ Reply #10,

Nemo,

The comment in that image would have been a worthy condemnation of the Spanish Conquistadors and their Catholic priests,
5 centuries ago,
but today, as a comment of condemnation of the Christian faith, it is just a false slander.

And you know it.

It is the 21 century.

Religious violence and supremacism ?

Where are your 'in context' cartoons condemning the ISLAMIC supremacism and murders of today ?

Is criticism, parody and sarcasm of ISLAMIC violence, still not PC for you and yours ???

I thought that exposing truth, in cartooning was about parody and sarcasm of wrongdoing ?

But ISLAMISTS today, do not qualify, are 'off limits' ?

headlines re ISLAM, all in the last week....
Nigeria: Muslims screaming ‘Allahu akbar’ kidnap hundreds of schoolboys, shoot one student dead

Sweden: Muslim migrant who taught other Muslim migrants ‘how to behave’ toward women rapes a colleague

Bangladesh: Muslims rape Christian woman, local Muslims side with the attackers

Germany: Muslim migrant murders two people, one with ‘violent action on the neck,’ cops say motive unclear

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8432 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Perseverance has Landed Reply #14 - Feb 24^th, 2021 at 8:42am Humans have claimed that their "god" is on their side for centuries. e.g. Germany and England in WWII both claimed "god" was on their side. Point being, Humans are a pox upon the face of the Cosmos. Isn't it enough for that species to destroy one small speck in the universe?
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