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Jan 19th, 2021 at 6:55am
 
Wage rises in Australia hit rock bottom as employers profit from the pandemic
By Alan Austin | 18 January 2021
Independent Australia
As treasurers, Scott Morrison and Joe Hockey were responsible for record low wage growth.   Sad
Wage rises are running at the lowest rate in Australia since records have been kept. Alan Austin dissects the dismal data.

IT IS A QUESTION of priorities. How much of the nation’s vast wealth should go to rich Australian executives, how much to multinational corporations, how much to foreign governments, how much to welfare recipients and how much to local workers?



Workers’ wages rose in Australia by 1.36% over the year to September 2020. This is by far the lowest annual rate of increase for any 12-month period since the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) began this series in 1997.

The second-lowest was 1.88% in the year to September 2016 after two of Australia’s three worst treasurers, Joe Hockey and Scott Morrison, had been trying to manage the economy for three years.



The average annual rise over the 13 years before this Coalition regime took office is 3.64%. The long term average, going back to 1997, is 3.11%. (Figures are from ABS series 6345.0, table 1.)

With inflation running at 0.69%, this represents a real wage increase of a miserable 0.67% over the year.



We know the population the ABS monitors includes high-income salary earners who are reaping huge increases, notably in the finance and banking sectors. It is thus certain that many low-income earners – probably the vast majority – have experienced substantial real wage cuts.   Sad

This wage data adds to the long list of economic outcomes which were among the developed world’s best before this Coalition Government took office in 2013, but which are now among the worst.

Global comparisons
Tradingeconomics.com has data on wage growth for 27 developed countries and the European Union, current to August 2020 or later. The average rise through 2020 after allowing for inflation was a creditable 2.65%.



The real wage rise in Britain was 2.0%, in Europe 2.2%, in Ireland 4.9%, in Canada 5.2% and in Hungary 5.8%. All these improved their outcomes over the year earlier.

The increase in this developed-country average over the last year – from 2.27% in 2019 to 2.65% – confirms global conditions have been positive for wage increases, despite the coronavirus pandemic.

Australia, however, reduced its real wage rise, from 0.82% in 2019 down to 0.67% in 2020 — one of a small minority to do so.

This adds to the evidence that the big corporations and the Morrison Government are taking advantage of the pandemic to advance their campaign to shift wealth and income from Australian workers to their executives and investors, local and foreign.

The Government as employer
The biggest employers in Australia today are federal and state governments. Just in the last six years, 532,800 new public service jobs have been added.

The latest ABS data (file 6291, table 26a) shows governments now employ 1,975,300 people, which is 15.30% of all workers. That’s up from just 1,442,500 when this series began in 2014, an increase of almost 37%. That is an addition to the total workforce of 4.13%. See silver chart, below.

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Hence with wages declining in real terms for the majority of workers, governments also save money which they can then allocate elsewhere.

Damage to Australia’s economy
Naturally, many employers are jubilant that workers’ salaries keep being cut. The multinational media companies, miners, exporters and others – who are the Coalition’s main beneficiaries – want to maximise profits for their shareholders and salaries and bonuses for their executives. So the lower their wages bill, the better.

But this is disastrous for Australia. It is one of the primary reasons Australia’s economy overall has fallen from being clearly the best-performed in the world from 2009 to 2013 to ranking around 19th today. When workers’ disposable income is reduced, the retail and hospitality sectors suffer immediately. This soon flows through to wholesalers, importers, manufacturers, agricultural producers, transport, service providers and others.



There is much the Federal Government could do to restore wages and thereby boost the domestic economy. It has significant input into penalty rates and the Fair Work Commission’s wage decisions. It sets most of its own employees’ salaries. And as colleague Dr Sabrin Farooqui has shown, wage theft remains an entrenched problem which governments are failing to fix.

Damage to Australia’s society
There is no excuse for Australia to be lagging the rest of the developed world so badly on workers’ remuneration.   Sad

Australia’s export sector is booming with iron ore prices at nine-year highs, volumes at new records, gold prices fluctuating around all-time highs, strong demand for Australian wool and excellent prices and volumes for many other commodities.

The trade surplus has been above $5 billion for the last three months and has averaged a thumping $5.88 billion for the last 12 months — the highest year ever.

So it comes down to priorities. If Irish workers can get a 4.9% pay lift and Canadians 5.2%, then Australians can do better than 0.67%.
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Reply #1 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:12pm
 
With men's AWE about $1800 and the very vast majority on less than half of that - you really have to wonder who is copping these gynormous incomes that make up the rest...

.... not to mention the 11.7% Gender Wage Gap being currently paid to women per hour worked...... not going to let that one go away.... you want to earn $1800 a week instead of $1500, honeys?  Go work the 25% more hours men do.... then come back and complain to me about it.....


...and while we're not on the subject since nobody brought it up for a while - what gives with QANTAS and their obsession, under the Irish poof, with out-sourcing.  Just watched that repeat of ACI last night, where that airliner was fitted with sub-standard bolts holding the tail on .... how do you guarantee that Singhfordacash Maintenance is using proper and accredited parts etc and not cutting costs by buying cheap sub-standard - as well as paying sub-standard wages to half-trained mechanics and rushing jobs?

For that matter - while we're not onit - how come the Irish poof 'earned' a huge bonus for QANTAS gaining in profit due to lower fuel costs?  FFS - do poofs control world fuel prices now?  For that matter - HTF did we ever get into a regime of paying outrageous bonus sums to managers for pharqing over their Australian workers?
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Reply #2 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 2:46pm
 
Interest rates hit rock bottom.

Inflation hits rock bottom.
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Reply #3 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:29pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 2:46pm:
Interest rates hit rock bottom.

Inflation hits rock bottom.

But not company profits, eh?

The Coalition are not superior economic managers. That's a myth that needs to die.
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Reply #4 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:29pm
 
Part of the problem with industrial relations in Australia is that it's centralized, rather than decentralized.

States should be empowered to enact their own minimum wage laws, industrial relations laws and corporations law. It doesn't make sense for small businesses in Tasmania that have lower economies of scale to pay the same as their counterparts in New South Wales that have higher economies of scale.

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Reply #5 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:29pm:
Part of the problem with industrial relations in Australia is that it's centralized, rather than decentralized.

States should be empowered to enact their own minimum wage laws, industrial relations laws and corporations law. It doesn't make sense for small businesses in Tasmania that have lower economies of scale to pay the same as their counterparts in New South Wales that have higher economies of scale.

That's not the problem.

The real problem is that the bargain ability of workers has been severely constrained. The rights of unions has been severely curtailed, as has the right of workers to withhold their labour. Similar rights have not been stripped from companies.

Workers have a very restricted right to strike, requiring huge amounts of red tape before they can take "protected" industrial action, often for one day at a time. Companies can lock out their staff indefinitely without the same level of red tape.

To get the country moving again, the anti-strike and anti-union laws must be repealed, or the laws must be rebalanced by subjecting companies to the same extremely heavy-handed laws that workers must comply with. If the playing field was level, a company would be required to get court approval to lock out their staff for one day, a company that locked out their staff without court approval would face fines of $200,000 per day per worker locked out, and in addition those workers would be able to sue the company for all of their lost wages for illegal lockouts.
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Reply #6 - Jan 25th, 2021 at 5:04pm
 
Bam wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
Auggie wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:29pm:
Part of the problem with industrial relations in Australia is that it's centralized, rather than decentralized.

States should be empowered to enact their own minimum wage laws, industrial relations laws and corporations law. It doesn't make sense for small businesses in Tasmania that have lower economies of scale to pay the same as their counterparts in New South Wales that have higher economies of scale.

That's not the problem.

The real problem is that the bargain ability of workers has been severely constrained. The rights of unions has been severely curtailed, as has the right of workers to withhold their labour. Similar rights have not been stripped from companies.

Workers have a very restricted right to strike, requiring huge amounts of red tape before they can take "protected" industrial action, often for one day at a time. Companies can lock out their staff indefinitely without the same level of red tape.

To get the country moving again, the anti-strike and anti-union laws must be repealed, or the laws must be rebalanced by subjecting companies to the same extremely heavy-handed laws that workers must comply with. If the playing field was level, a company would be required to get court approval to lock out their staff for one day, a company that locked out their staff without court approval would face fines of $200,000 per day per worker locked out, and in addition those workers would be able to sue the company for all of their lost wages for illegal lockouts.


Sure, we can enact all of the laws above; but we must also recognise that a national minimum wage is folly. Let the States implement their own industrial relations laws (in accordance with your ideas).
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Reply #7 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:05pm
 
HOW is a national minimum wage folly?  Why should the States have their own right to set wages?

I was reading Jefferson Davis' speech as a resigning Senator of the US (for State of Mississippi), in which he made it clear that he had consulted his constituents and they agreed with the Right of a State (South Carolina) to withdraw from the Union, and that as a result he was resigning from the US Senate since Mississippi was also withdrawing from the Union.

Are you one of those Confederates? Are you seeking to trigger a War Of Canberra Aggression against the Confederate States? 
(funny how the Confederate States formed their own Union...)


WHY should a State, which does not control the national economy, have the right to pay a worker more or less than another state for the same job?  Why should a worker in queensland on the same job be paid more or less than a worker in Victoria?

Maybe we should divide Australia up into various little duchies under Gauleiters or something and make them all Independent, including say - New Gondwanaland where all the dissident Kaffir can go to make their own way.... see how many are left in two year's time.....
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Reply #8 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:13pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:05pm:
WHY should a State, which does not control the national economy, have the right to pay a worker more or less than another state for the same job?  Why should a worker in queensland on the same job be paid more or less than a worker in Victoria?


Because the cost of living differs.

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Reply #9 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:16pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:05pm:
WHY should a State, which does not control the national economy, have the right to pay a worker more or less than another state for the same job?  Why should a worker in queensland on the same job be paid more or less than a worker in Victoria?


Because the cost of living differs.




cost of living differs between Sydney and smaller towns and cities in NSW as well. ..where do you stop?  should we have each town or city set its own minimum wage?
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Reply #10 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 3:45pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Auggie wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:05pm:
WHY should a State, which does not control the national economy, have the right to pay a worker more or less than another state for the same job?  Why should a worker in queensland on the same job be paid more or less than a worker in Victoria?


Because the cost of living differs.




cost of living differs between Sydney and smaller towns and cities in NSW as well. ..where do you stop?  should we have each town or city set its own minimum wage?


We have to employ some common sense here in applying public policy. Ultimately, I'm up to leaving to the States to decide how they wish to set the minimum wage. It may be that Sydney has one rate and certain regions in the NSW have another rate.
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Reply #11 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:27am
 
Leave the minimum wage as a national setting, else we will suffer even more hostile border wars.  Shocked
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Reply #12 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:56am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Auggie wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:05pm:
WHY should a State, which does not control the national economy, have the right to pay a worker more or less than another state for the same job?  Why should a worker in queensland on the same job be paid more or less than a worker in Victoria?


Because the cost of living differs.




cost of living differs between Sydney and smaller towns and cities in NSW as well. ..where do you stop?  should we have each town or city set its own minimum wage?

For decades, as a Commonwealth Gov’t employee, I attempted to get a transfer to a similar position in Tasmania and failed. After retiring and moving here I learnt local Commonweath workers receiving the standard award seldom wanted to transfer to the mainland. Reason being rents, property prices etc here were way below those on the mainland.

That’s now changed with thousands upon thousands of mainlanders (mostly academics and environmantal scientists) wanting to move here in the belief they’ll escape the implications of climate change.
They’ve also boosted property prices, in Hobart for instance, at a higher rate of increase than any city on the mainland. Or as that ancient Chinese curse has it “May you live in interesting times"
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Reply #13 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 9:58am
 
States Rights Forever!!

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Reply #14 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 5:03pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:56am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
Auggie wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 2:05pm:
WHY should a State, which does not control the national economy, have the right to pay a worker more or less than another state for the same job?  Why should a worker in queensland on the same job be paid more or less than a worker in Victoria?


Because the cost of living differs.




cost of living differs between Sydney and smaller towns and cities in NSW as well. ..where do you stop?  should we have each town or city set its own minimum wage?

For decades, as a Commonwealth Gov’t employee, I attempted to get a transfer to a similar position in Tasmania and failed. After retiring and moving here I learnt local Commonweath workers receiving the standard award seldom wanted to transfer to the mainland. Reason being rents, property prices etc here were way below those on the mainland.

That’s now changed with thousands upon thousands of mainlanders (mostly academics and environmantal scientists) wanting to move here in the belief they’ll escape the implications of climate change.
They’ve also boosted property prices, in Hobart for instance, at a higher rate of increase than any city on the mainland. Or as that ancient Chinese curse has it “May you live in interesting times"


What's your point?
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