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Reply #30 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:03pm
 
whats the service interval on one of those?
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Reply #31 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 4:14pm:


No surprise to see the Japanese gear at the top of the "reliability range".

As for Bentley...well, if you can afford to buy one, you can presumably afford to (keep) fix(ing) it...
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Reply #32 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:20pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:45pm:
Both Porsche and MB have redonkulously high servicing costs, no surprises there, but MB give crap service and try to worm their way out of 'out of warranty issues' while Porsche, provided servicing has been done by the book step up and do the right thing.


I've lusted after a V8 AMG for as long as I can remember.

But you have to pick the model (and the "model within the model") to ensure it won't bite you on the arse.

My pick of the AMGs?

Probably an M113 powered C55. Both the engine and (5-speed) auto are renowned as bullet-proof. Even the M113K in the E55 is basically bullet-proof, but the "E" comes with other bits that can fail (air suspension as an example). And a fair bit of extra size and heft.

Now...an M113K driveline transplanted into the C55 body. Now you're talking.

In later years, AMG began producing their own engines (rather than "re-tuning" Mercedes ones), and the M156-engined cars came out (C63 etc.

Early versions suffered from head bolt issues that could result in VERY expensive repair bills, if not rectified (bolts had to be replaced - itself not a cheap exercise).

If you're chasing a bit of fun (although where can you use it these days?) AND reliability, perhaps a 2UR-GSE powered Lexus is the go? (IS-F, GS-F, RC-F, LC500).

At least you know they'll last...
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Reply #33 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:08pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:10pm:
Hi Gordon,
name a more exciting car under $32 K     ?


Probably one of the small SUVs, my pick would be a Mazda CX-30 or one of the Koreans.

Don't get me wrong, I like Camrys, I rented a hybrid Camry for a week and it's nice enough, but not for me.




A couple of hatches would be under that too
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Reply #34 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:28pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:08pm:
Gordon wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2021 at 7:10pm:
Hi Gordon,
name a more exciting car under $32 K     ?


Probably one of the small SUVs, my pick would be a Mazda CX-30 or one of the Koreans.

Don't get me wrong, I like Camrys, I rented a hybrid Camry for a week and it's nice enough, but not for me.




A couple of hatches would be under that too


I was trying to keep it in cars that would probably in the same ballpark as a Camry. I can see someone going from Camry to a small SUV but probably not a hatch.

Another contender would be Skoda Octavia, and way under $32

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Reply #35 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:50pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:03pm:
whats the service interval on one of those?


Six months or every 12,500 k.  Way too frequent.
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Reply #36 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 2:26pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 11:57am:
mazda share space with toyota on a lot of development.
both are good.

car manufacturers tend to be in an upward spiral or a downward spiral.

when they start to go down, they cut corners, quality control falls off, they merge to try to inject capital.

i think chrysler , jeep, renault are one unit now
and nissan , fiat, peugeot ?
and mini and landrover are also merged in some god awful mess.

stay away from those lines.


honda and toyota and mazda are profitable and have stood the test of time.

benz and volvo make great commercial vehicles (trucks), because freight companies demand reliability.

but the private consumer is easily tricked with something which is engineered to be expensive to service and maintain (which is where a lot of the profit is).

for the 4 wd market.

an older hilux or landcruiser is ultra reliable but you will pay.

in the new models, the isuzu dmax engine is about as good as you could get as it is a truck engine in essence and you will get super high milage out of it.

the tritons is good value for money , often coming in 10 to 15 grand under the hilux or ranger. and there are plenty about and plenty of mechanics who wkow how to work on them,

if i was buying a car (and i only buy 4 wd's except for my missus lexus), i would go to a country town, away from the beach and the stop start traffic and look for a 3 to 4 yo vehicle with maybe 110,000 km on it.

once they tick over 100,000 kms they plummet in price.
if its a country vehicle, they will be mainly highway miles and it wont have rust.

you might get it for 1/3 of the new car price and it might still have 3/4 of its life in front of it.

then change that oil, filters, fuel filters, trannie and diff oil , coolant REGULarly.

in fact, with an older car, you need to do it more often, not less.

and you might have a car for 10 or 15 years that will end up costing you very little.

and put the savings into real estate


And then we have Mitsubishi. I've rented an Outlander (yuck) and a ASX (yuckx2).
They're just so harsh and lack refinement.

My next car is still about 2 years away. Daughter will get wifes car and I'm done with Euro, got that schit totally out of my system Smiley

I want a big arse SUV so I might pick up a 2nd hand Hyundai Palisade which has just hit the market. Seen the sze of those MoFos?
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Reply #37 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 2:27pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:03pm:
whats the service interval on one of those?


Six months or every 12,500 k.  Way too frequent.


I like Scoobies but 6 month intervals = getting tricked by a business.
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Reply #38 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 2:50pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 2:27pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 1:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 12:03pm:
whats the service interval on one of those?


Six months or every 12,500 k.  Way too frequent.


I like Scoobies but 6 month intervals = getting tricked by a business.



has that got a boxer engine and AWD?

either way,

i sort of look at things a bit differently.

a lot of cars now offer "fixed price servicing" and i think they cut corners and dont do enough!!.

oil is cheap, fuel filters are cheap, air filters are cheap, coolant is cheap.

and things like leaving dirty coolant (which you can easily drain and replace for $60) leaves grit in the coolant that eats away at the head gasket and then you blow a head and are up for $5000.

same with a fuel filter,  $50 or so and it might save you $2000 on a set of injectors (or $ 2000 PER INJECTOR on a BMW) .

anyone can learn to change all those fluids and filters.

and why trust a dealer who has some dopey kid who smokes dope and is on minimum wage , putting the oil filter back on with 2 o rings.


if you can find a car with a timing chain (so you arent up for $1500 every 100,000 km) and if you change your fluids regular, you might double the mileage you get.
and that might save you literally 100,000 bucks if you only have to buy 1/2 as many cars during your motoring life.

having said that subarus are interesting cars.
they have the best AWD system
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Reply #39 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 3:42pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 9:45pm:
Hyundais/Kia.

Very good.


That's what my mechanic said - they are relatively simple and so they are reliable and cheap to service.

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Reply #40 - Jan 18th, 2021 at 4:39pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2021 at 3:42pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 16th, 2021 at 9:45pm:
Hyundais/Kia.

Very good.


That's what my mechanic said - they are relatively simple and so they are reliable and cheap to service.




fantastic cars if you garage them and dont put too many miles on them.
as a urban runabout, a good choice.

they do have quite a lot of plastic connecting brake cylinders and water pumps and hoses .
now thats a problem if they get a lot of miles on them as those parts dont like prolonged australian tropical abuse and can be difficult to get to and you need really really little korean hands to work on them yourself, so that you often have to pay for labour to do a relatively simple thing.

korean engines arent quite as good as honda and toyota engines but they represent great value for money.

because an i 20 is half the price of a mazda CX5, you can drive it for 7 years and go buy another one and do another 7 and i doubt your CX5 will still be going strong in 14 years
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Reply #42 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 2:08pm
 
This is an opinion from an experienced mechanic family friend.  There are two recommendations:

1. Mercedes, they are about 2 to 3 years ahead of other brands like Audi, BMW inn terms of engine technology.

2. Toyota.  Mass produced car, they've got the balance right between quality and cost.  And parts are easier and cheaper to get than European brands.
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Reply #43 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 2:21pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:11am:


Car of choice for a manchild.
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Reply #44 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 2:22pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 2:21pm:
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Car of choice for a manchild.




Well more for what my actual requirements are.

1. I am not a tradie, so don't need a 1 tonne ute.
2.Need something with a bit of off road ability and tray for storing stuff.
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