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Reply #30 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:54am

rhino wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:23am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:17am:

Herd immunity is also pretty difficult to arrange, except by vaccinations.

when Aqua actually understands what herd immunity means he will get back to you on it. Hes off listening to Tony Robbins and donating to Trumps re election campaign.

i'm all for vaccinations.

not at the snails pace australia is rolling it out.

have a drive thru like at maacas, jab and then sit in a car park for 30 minutes.
then off you go.

at the current australian rate, you are encouraging mutations and then you need to create a new jab and rinse and repeat.

not a concern.

we do that for the flu.

but this is now going to be with us , porbably forever.

so this idea of fortress australia is a crock of shiiiit.

people are going to have to accept some infections and hospitals are going to have to accept some admissions and you cant have the ludicrous situation, like you currently have in brisbane of the biggest hospital not taking on sick patients with a multitiude of other conditions just because of covid fear.

reduce the numbers (just like we do with the road toll), pat ourselves on the back, resume normal life and accept our mortality.

no more talk of the "catastrophic death of someone from covid'

unless you want to be talking catastrophies for eternity .

and , in 6 months, tear down the borders, open the airports and get on with "human flourishing"

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Reply #31 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:56am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

if we had let the milder version that DIDNT affect kids sweep the nation 9 months ago, they would now have immunity.

And, we probably would have had tens of thousands of older people dead by now with no guarantee the "kids" still wouldn't be affected by this dangerous new variant.

Good plan. Not.

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"Masks are sand in the gears of the economy" - some f-wit pollie or big business CEO.

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Reply #32 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 11:03am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

so this idea of fortress australia is a crock of shiiiit.

people are going to have to accept some infections and hospitals are going to have to accept some admissions and you cant have the ludicrous situation, like you currently have in brisbane of the biggest hospital not taking on sick patients with a multitiude of other conditions just because of covid fear.

reduce the numbers (just like we do with the road toll), pat ourselves on the back, resume normal life and accept our mortality.

no more talk of the "catastrophic death of someone from covid'

unless you want to be talking catastrophies for eternity .

and , in 6 months, tear down the borders, open the airports and get on with "human flourishing"

you seem confused, the idea was always to isolate Australia until we are vaccinated. No one has touted locking Australia up forever. You are following a very common path of making stuff up and inventing strawmen when your previous statements are challenged. So far you have claimed that somehow we get to choose which variant of Covid affects us and now you are inventing a lockdown policy which doesnt exist.

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Reply #33 - Apr 7^th, 2021 at 8:52am

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

if we had let the milder version that DIDNT affect kids sweep the nation 9 months ago, they would now have immunity.

And, we probably would have had tens of thousands of older people dead by now with no guarantee the "kids" still wouldn't be affected by this dangerous new variant.

Good plan. Not.

USA have a death toll over 500,000 and are still no where near herd immunity

The bizarre part of Aqua's logic is that he is saying Australia should be more like Sweden.
But then he refuses to compare Sweden's death toll with ours, instead he only wants to compare it with the very worst countries in Europe.
Does Aqua even recognize the gaps in his logic?

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: Sweden continues to Crush. Reply #34 - Apr 7^th, 2021 at 8:58am Herd immunity is BS unless theres a vaccine that offers immunity and lots of ppl get it. Most of the vaccines dont even offer immunity. Even if it wasnt a fairy tale how many ppl would have to die to achieve it? Spot
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Reply #35 - Apr 7^th, 2021 at 9:40am

the problem with covids it mutates....and gets harder to deal with...lets face it we dont all live in a clean healthy environment and we all know where this evolved dont we?????.....in a not too clean healthy environment..

be glad you live in this country and stop trying to make this out to be nothing to be concerned about.. Angry

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Reply #36 - Apr 7^th, 2021 at 9:43am

Angola has found a nasty new strain with over 30 mutations, cods:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w

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South Africa’s first wave of coronavirus infections peaked in July 2020. The second wave peaked in January 2021, and was driven by the recently discovered 501Y.V2 variant (also called B.1.351). The variant is partially resistant to antibodies against previously circulating variants, raising concerns about the effectiveness of current vaccines against it.

And horseboy bleats about herd immunity—to one variant of the virus.

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Get the vaxx! 💉💉

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Reply #37 - Apr 7^th, 2021 at 9:58am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 7^th, 2021 at 9:43am:

Angola has found a nasty new strain with over 30 mutations, cods:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w

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South Africa’s first wave of coronavirus infections peaked in July 2020. The second wave peaked in January 2021, and was driven by the recently discovered 501Y.V2 variant (also called B.1.351). The variant is partially resistant to antibodies against previously circulating variants, raising concerns about the effectiveness of current vaccines against it.

And horseboy bleats about herd immunity—to one variant of the virus.

they were giving out free soap at one stage in Angola...I think its needs more than that....

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Reply #38 - Apr 7^th, 2021 at 10:39am

True, but hand washing/sanitising, social distancing, mask wearing indoors in public areas do slow and restrict the spread of disease. I do sanitise my hands and fill in the register in places that have them. Must get that app downloaded, speed things up.

I think soap is more effective than hand wash liquid. I bought a packet of soap and hunted up all the scented/hippy type soaps in the house. I use hand wash now tho—no soap scum.

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