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Fer: A cleansing summer ale
Dec 28th, 2020 at 4:13pm
 
Assume it is September and you want to brew a beer for summer drinking.

A lager needs months of lagering—an ale it will be. For summer drinking we do not want roast notes so no stout or porter. We do not want a high alcohol beer either (this needs months of ageing to remove the alcohol heat to begin with.)

So the choice narrows to a nice pale ale. An ale we can sink a glass of quickly yet also an ale with enough character to sip a second glass of it.

Let us decide some specifics:

1. Our ale will be 4.5%abv.

2. This means an Original Gravity in the range 1045–1050

3. Bitterness should be reasonably assertive—a cleansing ale. So 40IBU sounds good. Brewed in September, bottled in October, drank in Jan–Feb the bitterness will be a bit lower than 40IBU as the hop compounds turn from bittering to flavoring compounds.

Now we need to select a malt bill, a hop bill and a water bill and a mash schedule. Start on the malt bill in the next post.
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Reply #1 - Dec 28th, 2020 at 5:28pm
 
Since Booby with complete lack of christian charity reported me for accidentally posting in the Dubyne MRB the next installment might be a while  Smiley

This despite me seeing he was replying to a post here where he is banned and warning him off.

What a poofta! Not a christian at all.
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Reply #2 - Jan 5th, 2021 at 5:28am
 
The malt bill


This is a small ale by necessity—no place to hide poor brewing technique! In a big, roasty Russian Imperial Stout we can use a cheaper malt, not here!

So we will choose the best malted brewing barley there is: Maris Otter (called Golden Promise in Scotland where it is grown for making whiskey.

Looking at the Bairds Malts website we get:
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Extract (0.7/0.2mm), dry: 310 LDK min


https://www.bairds-malt.co.uk/the-1823-heritage-collection/maris-otter-finest-al...

310 is the “degrees of extract (DE)” we can get from the malt—using laboratory techniques. Brewers can only get like 80% efficiency so .8 x 310 = 248.

We can plug this into the formula for calculating the weight of grain needed to get a specific gravity wort of our desired volume.

We want G to be 1050 max (50 gravity points.) Our V is usually 22L so we can calculate the weight (W) of grain from:

G = (W x DE)/V   (so the more grain, the higher DE and lower the volume the heavier the wort)

50 = (W x 248)/22

So W = 50 x 22/248 = 4.435Kg malt

Personally, I would increase the grain bill to 5Kg and stop sparging while the last runnings are still fairly thick—wasting a bit of the sugar but getting a wort full of good flavor with no husky etc off flavors. We are home brewers, the biggest beer I ever brewed was 16Kg of grain, brewed it with a mate we had three mash tuns and 2 kettles going. A commercial brewer uses so much grain they could not “waste” any extract.

There is one more thing we can do to boost the malt flavor—next time.



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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:38pm
 
Thanks Monk -
I'll slowly copy it over for you to save you time.



The malt bill

This is a small ale by necessity—no place to hide poor brewing technique! In a big, roasty Russian Imperial Stout we can use a cheaper malt, not here!

So we will choose the best malted brewing barley there is: Maris Otter (called Golden Promise in Scotland where it is grown for making whiskey.

Looking at the Bairds Malts website we get:
Quote:
Extract (0.7/0.2mm), dry: 310 LDK min


https://www.bairds-malt.co.uk/the-1823-heritage-collection/maris-otter-finest-al...

310 is the “degrees of extract (DE)” we can get from the malt—using laboratory techniques. Brewers can only get like 80% efficiency tops so .8 x 310 = 248.

We can plug this into the formula for calculating the weight of grain needed to get a specific gravity wort of our desired volume.

We want G to be 1050 max (50 gravity points.) Our V is usually 22L so we can calculate the weight (W) of grain from:

G = (W x DE)/V (so the more grain, the higher DE and lower the volume the heavier the wort)

50 = (W x 248)/22

So W = 50 x 22/248 = 4.435Kg malt

Personally, I would increase the grain bill to 5Kg and stop sparging while the last runnings are still fairly thick—wasting a bit of the sugar but getting a wort full of good flavor with no husky etc off flavors. We are home brewers, the biggest beer I ever brewed was 16Kg of grain, brewed it with a mate we had three mash tuns and 2 kettles going, an extra kilo of grain, meh! A commercial brewer uses so much grain they could not “waste” any extract.

There is one more thing we can do to boost the malt flavor—next time.
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Reply #6 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 9:51pm
 
The above post was stolen from my forum. This is uncivilised behavior at least. I have asked management here to stop this theft of information.
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Reply #7 - Jan 28th, 2021 at 12:12am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2021 at 9:51pm:
The above post was stolen from my forum. This is uncivilised behavior at least. I have asked management here to stop this theft of information.



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The kinds of beer that Mong favours are highly estrogenic so he must have manboobs and other feminine characteristics. Have your balls dried up too, Mong?
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Reply #9 - Jan 28th, 2021 at 7:43am
 
AiA wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 12:44am:
The kinds of beer that Mong favours are highly estrogenic so he must have manboobs and other feminine characteristics. Have your balls dried up too, Mong?


Man boobs, no balls, hip replacement, deaf in one ear. He's a dogs breakfast!
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Reply #10 - Jan 28th, 2021 at 11:11pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 7:43am:
AiA wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 12:44am:
The kinds of beer that Mong favours are highly estrogenic so he must have manboobs and other feminine characteristics. Have your balls dried up too, Mong?


Man boobs, no balls, hip replacement, deaf in one ear. He's a dogs breakfast!



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Reply #12 - Jan 29th, 2021 at 11:27am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 8:52am:
It is only the two grubs of OzPol. Don’t pay them any mind, not worth it.


I am concerned about your health, Mong. Eating estrogenic foods is not good for you.
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Reply #13 - Jan 29th, 2021 at 2:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 8:52am:
It is only the two grubs of OzPol. Don’t pay them any mind, not worth it.


Drunk doxxing mong.
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Reply #14 - Jan 29th, 2021 at 4:38pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 2:36pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 29th, 2021 at 8:52am:
It is only the two grubs of OzPol. Don’t pay them any mind, not worth it.


Drunk doxxing mong.


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