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Reply #15 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 9:00pm
 
I believe this discussion is about the failure of all parties.... not just one... and pointing out blatant failures that were the fault of one does not detract from the guilt of the other(s)....

Make a list - Trendie - I note how very much of yours was in Queenslund where they do things diff'runtly, and they've had such alumni as Anna Bligh who Blighthley sold out for a fistful of dollars/thirty pieces of silver, after a 'stellar' career in Labrador.... true woman of the people right there, as long as the dollars flow and flow.... same as most others ....
(women bring a different perspective to the political table - sure they do!!!  We'll all be so much better off when they run the whole world.... sure we will!!!!!)


Essentially our political system has let the people and the nation down..... and has feathered the nests of far too many undeserving despots and traitors and thieves .... true Third World Banana Republic style.....
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Reply #16 - Jan 3rd, 2021 at 8:52pm
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 12:30pm:

Reading the OP, reminded me of a story from the O.T. bible.....


That's a surprise.
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Reply #17 - Jan 3rd, 2021 at 9:01pm
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 1:07pm:
In 1950 we had Keynesian economics-capitalism where the government is the top dog and everyone else like banks and corporations are below it.

This system came into prominence after WW2 until the late 1970's early 1980's, it was also being used after the great depression of the 1930's but after WW2 was adopted universally.

Under Keynesian economics-capitalism the middle class flourished all over the world, it was a golden moment for the middle class back then.

Neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics-capitalism here in Australia in the early 1980's implemented by the Hawke Keating governments and we have had this financial system ever since.

And ever since then all these things have come about because Neo-liberalism doesn't care about nations and borders and even humans, its only concern is capital.

Living under Neoliberalism and not being aware of it is like living in China and not being aware of the communist system.

A good place to start is here,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1607936792


Yep thats about the size of it. In fact I think you can fairly say that Hawke and Keating were the fathers of Australian neoliberalism and some Labour people still worship them despite their vandalism of the Australian economy and destruction of the Australian middle class. And they of course laid the foundations for round 2 by Howard. Keating and Howard are still alive. There's still time to put them in prison for their sins 
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Reply #18 - Jan 3rd, 2021 at 9:51pm
 
Phi wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 11:51am:
In 1950 Australia's population was about eight million people. The Government had a small debt that was entirely eliminated by 1970. In 1950 Australian's owned almost all of the country. The idea of selling its land and other assets to foreigners was not only frowned upon, but considered treasonous.

The total value of Australia's assets in 1950 is almost impossible to determine today, but was certainly enormous, so much so that EVERY Australian would have been at least a multimillionaire, perhaps even a billionaire. The title "Lucky Country" in those days wasn't a cynical jab, but a practical reality.

Then came Gough Whitlam. He insisted that Australia was SO wealthy that there was no need to bother with earning more money; the problem was how to redistribute its enormous wealth equitably. The trouble is that a rock in the ground is worthless; but if it's an iron rock it can be sold for cold, hard cash. So to turn the country's potential wealth into actual wealth, stuff has to be sold. LOTS of it.

And so the selling began. The Foreign Investment Review Board (FIRB) was established in 1976 to advise the Government on such matters, to ensure that foreign ownership was minimized and in the country's interests. Wealthy individuals flocked to Australia bringing "foreign investment", a phrase that soon had a delicious ring for those eager to accept "bribes on the side". Politicians, public servants, senior businessmen and wealthy criminals all realized that a veritable cornucopia of unlimited personal wealth lay ahead if the "right conditions" were established.

Enter Bob Hawke. In 1983 he changed the role of the FIRB from monitoring and limiting the foreign ownership of Australia to promoting it. In that role it achieved "success" so outstanding that the Federal Government soon ceased publication of foreign ownership figures in order to avoid embarrassment. Today no-one knows how much of the country is foreign owned, and the government certainly has no intention of disclosing it.

Australia now has the highest per capita debt in the world. In 2016 every man, woman and child owed A$31,758 on behalf of the country, along with their household debts which averaged 188.5% of personal income last year. The former "Lucky Country" is now an enormous debt quarry, and the assets that Australians once owned as surety for their debts are largely foreign-owned.

Australian politicians have truly achieved a WORLD CLASS transformation of the country. The overall debt is so high that, should our income drop only moderately, we'll ALL be bankrupt. Permanently! And about half of our income is from China.

What, then, can be done about it?

A modern, innovative approach is the ONLY answer. Governance of the country and management of its finances must be outsourced to honest, experienced, reliable people. Foreigners obviously, since there are none here.

Singapore does not have a per capita debt; it has a per capita SURPLUS, the largeest in the world. Every man, woman and child has S$152,935 in his or her pocket thanks to their politicians, and most also have personal savings rather than debt.

So why not draw up contracts to govern and manage Australia, and offer them to Singaporean politicians? Ten years guaranteed, no elections, no interference. Just come over here, get stuck in, and do for us what you've done for your own people and country!

Because the VERY LAST THING WE NEED - God forbid - is yet ANOTHER Orstrayun Prime Minister and his lying, back-stabbing, fart-bombing colleagues.


This is utter fantasy. Especially, for those who paid rent and raised children on 15 quid a week in 1956. Why isn't there any traffic in the photographs? Because you had to be middle class to buy a Holden.

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Reply #19 - Jan 3rd, 2021 at 10:55pm
 
Why do you think that the WOGs with their native cunning and grift flock to politics as a 'career'?
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Reply #20 - Jan 5th, 2021 at 11:07pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 3rd, 2021 at 10:55pm:
Why do you think that the WOGs with their native cunning and grift flock to politics as a 'career'?


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Reply #21 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 8:46pm
 
Phi wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 11:51am:
In 1950 Australia's population was about eight million people. The Government had a small debt that was entirely eliminated by 1970.


What a load of fukkin horseshit. Australian public debt in 1950 was like 100% of GDP. Some tosspots just write any ol' crap.

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Reply #22 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 9:03pm
 
It's easy to be a rich country when your women are out working hard for the Politician's Economy and Unemployment figures and not having children at home boosting a fragile population growth.
The Swedes have it down pat. That's why they import Turks as their 'new generation'.
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Reply #23 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 1:26pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
It's easy to be a rich country when your women are out working hard for the Politician's Economy and Unemployment figures and not having children at home boosting a fragile population growth.
The Swedes have it down pat. That's why they import Turks as their 'new generation'.


Oh well - on 2020 figures women are being rewarded with a premium of 11.7% per hour of work more than men are being paid..... isn't that enough compensation for you?

In this little gem of reality you see the ultimate manifestation of the the 'argument' about 'wage equity' - the AIM is to ensure that women are paid the same AWE but without having to perform the arduous task of doing the same AHW (Average Hours of Work)...

THAT is what 'wage equity' is really all about - favouring some by creating 'equal wages' but for far less actual work.

Time for this insanity to be demolished..... and genuine equal treatment restored ... from the start of school up... sadly, what will now need to take place is a purge of women in the teaching jobs, public services, preference for employment, and so forth in banking, nursing, even artificial advancement to place the in medicine etc... and affirmative action is now required to re-establish parity for men and young boys and young men.

This insanity has been allowed to go too far now.... Time To Stop!!

Aborigines had it right - the men went for a 'hunt' and the women collected the yams, water tubers, a few snakes and so forth for the pot..... then the women hauled the wheeled wagons to the next camping spot for the next day's adventures....

Here's a cave painting.... (not)...

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Reply #24 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 10:35pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Jasin wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
It's easy to be a rich country when your women are out working hard for the Politician's Economy and Unemployment figures and not having children at home boosting a fragile population growth.
The Swedes have it down pat. That's why they import Turks as their 'new generation'.


Oh well - on 2020 figures women are being rewarded with a premium of 11.7% per hour of work more than men are being paid..... isn't that enough compensation for you?

In this little gem of reality you see the ultimate manifestation of the the 'argument' about 'wage equity' - the AIM is to ensure that women are paid the same AWE but without having to perform the arduous task of doing the same AHW (Average Hours of Work)...

THAT is what 'wage equity' is really all about - favouring some by creating 'equal wages' but for far less actual work.

Time for this insanity to be demolished..... and genuine equal treatment restored ... from the start of school up... sadly, what will now need to take place is a purge of women in the teaching jobs, public services, preference for employment, and so forth in banking, nursing, even artificial advancement to place the in medicine etc... and affirmative action is now required to re-establish parity for men and young boys and young men.

This insanity has been allowed to go too far now.... Time To Stop!!

Aborigines had it right - the men went for a 'hunt' and the women collected the yams, water tubers, a few snakes and so forth for the pot..... then the women hauled the wheeled wagons to the next camping spot for the next day's adventures....

Here's a cave painting.... (not)...

https://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/image/schiffstransport/treideln.gif

Abos never had a wheeled wagon.
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Reply #25 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 11:03pm
 
crocodile wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 10:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Jasin wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
It's easy to be a rich country when your women are out working hard for the Politician's Economy and Unemployment figures and not having children at home boosting a fragile population growth.
The Swedes have it down pat. That's why they import Turks as their 'new generation'.


Oh well - on 2020 figures women are being rewarded with a premium of 11.7% per hour of work more than men are being paid..... isn't that enough compensation for you?

In this little gem of reality you see the ultimate manifestation of the the 'argument' about 'wage equity' - the AIM is to ensure that women are paid the same AWE but without having to perform the arduous task of doing the same AHW (Average Hours of Work)...

THAT is what 'wage equity' is really all about - favouring some by creating 'equal wages' but for far less actual work.

Time for this insanity to be demolished..... and genuine equal treatment restored ... from the start of school up... sadly, what will now need to take place is a purge of women in the teaching jobs, public services, preference for employment, and so forth in banking, nursing, even artificial advancement to place the in medicine etc... and affirmative action is now required to re-establish parity for men and young boys and young men.

This insanity has been allowed to go too far now.... Time To Stop!!

Aborigines had it right - the men went for a 'hunt' and the women collected the yams, water tubers, a few snakes and so forth for the pot..... then the women hauled the wheeled wagons to the next camping spot for the next day's adventures....

Here's a cave painting.... (not)...

https://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/image/schiffstransport/treideln.gif

Abos never had a wheeled wagon.

Whites never had an island as big as a continent.
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Reply #26 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 11:35pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 11:03pm:
crocodile wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 10:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Jasin wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 9:03pm:
It's easy to be a rich country when your women are out working hard for the Politician's Economy and Unemployment figures and not having children at home boosting a fragile population growth.
The Swedes have it down pat. That's why they import Turks as their 'new generation'.


Oh well - on 2020 figures women are being rewarded with a premium of 11.7% per hour of work more than men are being paid..... isn't that enough compensation for you?

In this little gem of reality you see the ultimate manifestation of the the 'argument' about 'wage equity' - the AIM is to ensure that women are paid the same AWE but without having to perform the arduous task of doing the same AHW (Average Hours of Work)...

THAT is what 'wage equity' is really all about - favouring some by creating 'equal wages' but for far less actual work.

Time for this insanity to be demolished..... and genuine equal treatment restored ... from the start of school up... sadly, what will now need to take place is a purge of women in the teaching jobs, public services, preference for employment, and so forth in banking, nursing, even artificial advancement to place the in medicine etc... and affirmative action is now required to re-establish parity for men and young boys and young men.

This insanity has been allowed to go too far now.... Time To Stop!!

Aborigines had it right - the men went for a 'hunt' and the women collected the yams, water tubers, a few snakes and so forth for the pot..... then the women hauled the wheeled wagons to the next camping spot for the next day's adventures....

Here's a cave painting.... (not)...

https://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/image/schiffstransport/treideln.gif

Abos never had a wheeled wagon.

Whites never had an island as big as a continent.
Sure we do. And when we got here the original inhabitants hadnt even invented the wheel.
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Reply #27 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 11:40pm
 
Whites are still the 'physically inferior' race.
So physically inferior - they only inhabited a small corner of the globe while Darkies ruled all the rest.
Whites have to come up with more than just a wheel to trade for their lack of to earn the right to share in half the world.  Grin
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Reply #28 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 7:21am
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 11:40pm:
Whites are still the 'physically inferior' race.
So physically inferior - they only inhabited a small corner of the globe while Darkies ruled all the rest.
Whites have to come up with more than just a wheel to trade for their lack of to earn the right to share in half the world.  Grin


But then your majestic Darkies went down in numbers when they opposed Whites.... even the gorilla built Islanders are a subject race.... they only ever recovered some small part of their sovereignty under the easygoing ways of the White Man.... they can always do without Whartey's Cargo Cult and go it alone.... be fun to watch....

Darkies raped all the rest - they still do...... imagine 26 million Ozabos turned loose on the fauna of Australia without the Wharte Man's organised living and sustenance ..... burning their little patch of 'traditional burn' every day or so ... using cat sanitation etc .... like locusts eating everything in their way...... soon she'd be a barren land.... and disease would be rampant....

I'll break it to you gently - the Good Old Days are gone...... look at the genocides in Africa when the Wharte Man left.....look at Asiatics when the Wharte Man leaves... bossy rolls in the Wharte Man's tanks and guns and liberates 'em unto dire servitude...   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 7:39am
 
A li'l ol' lynching on the front porch never hurt no politician..... kinda helps 'em to see the light.

When will they ever see the light when, even if voted out, their mates in the government bend over backwards to give them another 'job' out of the public purse as some kind of 'right'?

Only a complete wipe-through and re-boot (after booting the incumbents out) will create of the actual running of this nation a viable one for everyone and something more than a self-enrichment exercise for parasites and low-lives... a 'career' path that even incorporates a 'job' for a dynasty, as occurs far too often here...

Politics is not a career - it is a term of service to people and country first and foremost, and under no circumstances should it be well-padded and easy and made so for life ......
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