Like my predecessor, Augustus Caesar, I think it's time to implement calendar reform in Australia.

There are several proposals, which I will list below.

World Calendar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Calendar

This is a good proposal. The first day of the year, 1st Jan is always on a Sunday (as it should be). Each quarter begins on Sunday and ends on a Saturday.

There is an extra day at the end of the year called 'Wordsday' which doesn't belong to any one day and is between the 31st December and 1st January. During leap years, there is an additional day after June which also doesn't belong to any day.

Symmetry454
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry454

This one is not too bad. Each quarter follows a 4-5-4 structure. 4 weeks, 5 weeks then 4 weeks. This ensures that every day falls on the same day and that weeks are equal.

The only downside to this calendar is that during every leap year there is an additional 'week' tagged on at the end of December (making 35 days instead of 28 days). Whilst this isn't an issue per se, would a person whose born in the last week of a leap year celebrate their birthday in the first of January in the off months? And would this accurately reflect their age?

International Fixed Calendar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

This one is my favourite! 13 months with 28 days per month. At the end of each year there is an extra day called 'Year Day' which is intercalendary (doesn't fall on any day). In a leap year there is an additional intercalendary day.

The extra month would need to be placed before March in order to preserve the naming order of the old Roman Calendar.

Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.

Auggie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2020 at 6:07pm:


Simply because Monday is the first day of the week.

It's in the big book.

"And on the seventh day (sunday) God rested."

That means Sunday is the seventh day and Monday is the first.

SIMPLES.

What happened to the proposal for Grapplerary, the 13th Month?   I thought that was hewn from living rock....

If you're going to be picky - then make it Grappluary... jeez - can't please some...

... and on the Eighth Day he woke up wondering what he had done over the past seven days..... man... what a wild party......

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2020 at 9:45pm:



Dang - kids finished school today - tomorrow and onwards will be hell... amazing how many of the kids at the high school across the road have cars... I was lucky to afford the school bus..... three pence, a windfall if you could 'skip the duc' and not pay for the trip by slipping past him in the crowd.   

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 16^th, 2020 at 9:26pm:


It's a bit of mouthful on the tongue. The 13th day of Grappluary....

The original name for the 13th month was 'Sol' which fell between June and July. However, I would add a new month before March. This is because the months September, October, November and December actually means 7, 8, 9 and 10. You see, the original Roman calendar was 10 months, with the first month being March and December being the last month. The Romans then added two additional months prior to March.

So, in order to retain the Roman tradition, March to December shall remain the same, but any additional month shall be inserted before March.

So, in your case, it would be January, February, Grappluary, March, April....

Some 'mystics' will tell you the 13th month was Arachne - The Spider - midway between
Taurus and Gemini and allegedly with enormous powers.  Bob Dylan is one such.

Grappluary do?  13th of Grappluary rolls off the tongue a bit... easier than Jan-U-Ary or Febry...

Grapptober?  Not Grappmember.... brrr.. shades of Austin Powers...

Valkie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2020 at 6:22pm:


Not everyone reads the same book...

Auggie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:


How is what the day is named relevant to budgeting?

Auggie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 6:57pm:


But that is not relevant to what you responded to. I was asking what relevance day names have under your new system. Why not just numbers? Why does a year have to start on one a day name? Why not rotate them to be fair and equitable?

I kinda like the ancient duodecimal time system, it's a link to the ancient past.

Setanta wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:02pm:


It relates to the broader purposes of the calendar, which is that it's fixed and perpetual.

For e.g. 1st Jan next is actually still part of Week 53 of 2020. The first week of 2020 starts on 4th January. Problem is 4th Jan is not the first day of year.

Don't you think it makes sense that the first day of year should be the first day of the first week of the year?

Gordon wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:09pm:


No, I think we should call the 13th month after an indigenous name and insert it between February and March in order to preserve the Roman naming system.

Do we even need  days of the week or months?

Just have day 1 to 365 for normal years.

Also move to metric time.

Auggie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:12pm:


An indigenous name? 

Of what indigenous people? So the 13th month could have thousands of names depending on where you come from? Or perhaps you see this as an Australian only venture? That is the stupidest thing said in this thread so far but shows your problem with logic and willingness to bow to PC to a tee.

Setanta wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:23pm:


Frankly, you can call the extra month whatever you want if it makes you feel better.

Setanta wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:


If you think having 13 months of 4 equal weeks each is a bad idea, then why don't you just say so?

Setanta wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:37pm:


Was it worth the time to change how we measure things? Why did we adopt the metric system?

The 13 month calendar is the metric system of the calendar.

Setanta wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:56pm:


So, learn the new calendar and get used to it.

Auggie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:


But why? For what purpose? Just so it looks neat for you? What would the cost be and who would bear it?

Auggie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 8:15pm:


As I've said, I've lived with both, no difference. You work with what you have to. There was no need of a change but there was a change. People travel along regardless. On the other hand why make things change just because you think it's a good idea? A rose by any name...

If society was starting from scratch, you may have many points in all the things you propose but that is not where we are...

Auggie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2020 at 6:24pm:


I like the 13 month Calendar. Also known as the 'Moon' Calendar.

Australia is still running a Calendar that's like driving a very old out-dated car.

Just reset from Day Zero.... she'll be right......

Grapplember has a nice ring to it......

Auggie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:30pm:


Hate to piss on your parade, bro... but wake me up when we've worked out DST. Zzzzz

I assume you mean Daylight Saving Time?

If so, I don't see how this affects the calendar or any calendar?

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 26^th, 2020 at 12:07pm:


Not that big a deal.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 26^th, 2020 at 12:07pm:


Incorrect, those two days would both be public holidays.

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Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2020 at 7:15pm:


There are many things we don't agree on. Doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do or that we shouldn't do it.

Jasin wrote on Dec 27^th, 2020 at 9:58am:


And what's disappointing is that most people simply disregard these ideas because it's 'too hard basket'.

I hope we reform to a more efficient 13 month Moon calendar.
Also maybe towards a more accurate seasonal calendar than the old 4 Season generalisation where the cold and heat is always 'late' in the season and into another for starters. The Aboriginal Calendars are precisely this. More accurate. All Farmers would be wise to embrace this more so.

Auggie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2020 at 9:43am:


There isn't a lot that virtually all of the western world agree with. There are about 40 calendars in use but virtually everyone uses the Georgian calendar for business transactions.

Do you suggest that we get the world to agree to a change or that we go to a duel calendar  model ?  Neither seem a good idea to me one not possible the other stupid.

Auggie only sees the end result, not the turmoil it would create just for a bit of aesthetic symmetry. I mean it's not like there are bigger fish to fry.

Setanta wrote on Dec 27^th, 2020 at 10:00pm:


And that is why there have never been any calls to change the calendar

Aesthetic symmetry is not a meaningful reason.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 27^th, 2020 at 8:09pm:


I suggest that the whole world adopts this calendar.

Setanta wrote on Dec 27^th, 2020 at 10:00pm:


It's more than aesthetic symmetry - the benefits of the calendar are significant.

Auggie wrote on Dec 28^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:


54 years later and there was still no apparent point it it either ?  Just change for the sake of change.

Valkie wrote on Dec 28^th, 2020 at 8:38pm:


And so it's the same with the 13 month calendar.

What's 28 days from the 7 Feb? 7 March. What day is 13 August next year? It's on a Saturday.

Every date falls on the same day - it is perpetual.

Quote:


Make the holes smaller and group them in octets.

Auggie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 6:34pm:


What would be the odds of getting 200 countries to make a change that virtually nobody cares about.

A lot of effort and money which will have no effect on people's lives.

Auggie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 8:08pm:


You mean like how everyone speaks mandarin ?

Here's something interesting:

The first week of 2021 commences Monday 4th January. So, the first day of the first week of the year is 4th January. 1st January is in the last week of 2020.

So, why are we celebrating the New Year when the first day of the year is actually 4th January?

With a 13 month calendar we wouldn't have this problem - because 1st January is always going to be the first day or the first week of the year.

The world is falling apart and you want to change the date it finally collapses?

Pourquoi? 

Pardonez moi - j'ais un ami de Madagasque ... il fait bien, mais il est gaie et épouse de un ami.  Quel domage, mais c'est la vie, non?

Moi?  Je cherche les femmes! .....

1st January is not the first day of the year this year - 4th January is the first day of the year.

NYE should be on Sunday 3rd January.

Auggie wrote on Dec 31^st, 2020 at 4:47pm:


The only argument anyone has for it is they think it's a good idea to force that toothpaste back into the tube..... 

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:42am:


Planting of a crop using women workers and sticks will lead to mass starvation..........

Abolish cultures as a social yardstick and we're all on Easy Street... no more arguments, eh?  Then all we need to do is gather up any who argue and ship 'em out!!

NZ is a nice place - let's see how our activist types get on there with their shenanigans.... I understand NZ Mussos don't parade the streets carrying signs about beheading... more civilised than the lot we got.... like unleaded petrol, given a choice, Australia picks the worst of the litter... the rabid Middle Eastern types with their ADHD and mental retardation due to inbreeding often amplified by drug use and criminal behaviour without laws.....

2021 - The Year Of Speaking Plainly For A Change......

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:03am:


Please state every reform that I have proposed and how it will cause more problems than it is supposed to fix.

I look forward to your post.