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Dec 15th, 2020 at 6:24pm
 
Like my predecessor, Augustus Caesar, I think it's time to implement calendar reform in Australia.

There are several proposals, which I will list below.

World Calendar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Calendar

This is a good proposal. The first day of the year, 1st Jan is always on a Sunday (as it should be). Each quarter begins on Sunday and ends on a Saturday.

There is an extra day at the end of the year called 'Wordsday' which doesn't belong to any one day and is between the 31st December and 1st January. During leap years, there is an additional day after June which also doesn't belong to any day.

Symmetry454

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry454

This one is not too bad. Each quarter follows a 4-5-4 structure. 4 weeks, 5 weeks then 4 weeks. This ensures that every day falls on the same day and that weeks are equal.

The only downside to this calendar is that during every leap year there is an additional 'week' tagged on at the end of December (making 35 days instead of 28 days). Whilst this isn't an issue per se, would a person whose born in the last week of a leap year celebrate their birthday in the first of January in the off months? And would this accurately reflect their age?

International Fixed Calendar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

This one is my favourite! 13 months with 28 days per month. At the end of each year there is an extra day called 'Year Day' which is intercalendary (doesn't fall on any day). In a leap year there is an additional intercalendary day.

The extra month would need to be placed before March in order to preserve the naming order of the old Roman Calendar.
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Reply #1 - Dec 15th, 2020 at 6:39pm
 
Thirteen months of 28 days and a public holiday on No Day .....

We'll call the new month Grapplerary .... in honour of the saint of OzPol trying to reach out and teach you all....
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Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2020 at 7:45pm
 
Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.
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Reply #3 - Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:07pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.


Why is it madness?

Why should the first day of the year NOT be a Sunday?
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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:22pm
 
Auggie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.


Why is it madness?

Why should the first day of the year NOT be a Sunday?


Simply because Monday is the first day of the week.

It's in the big book.

"And on the seventh day (sunday) God rested."

That means Sunday is the seventh day and Monday is the first.

SIMPLES.
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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2020 at 7:45pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.


Why is it madness?

Why should the first day of the year NOT be a Sunday?


Simply because Monday is the first day of the week.

It's in the big book.

"And on the seventh day (sunday) God rested."

That means Sunday is the seventh day and Monday is the first.

SIMPLES.


Well, why shouldn't the first day of the year be a monday?

Let's try again.
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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2020 at 9:26pm
 
What happened to the proposal for Grapplerary, the 13th Month?   I thought that was hewn from living rock....

If you're going to be picky - then make it Grappluary... jeez - can't please some...

... and on the Eighth Day he woke up wondering what he had done over the past seven days..... man... what a wild party......
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Reply #7 - Dec 16th, 2020 at 9:45pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 9:26pm:
What happened to the proposal for Grapplerary, the 13th Month?   I thought that was hewn from living rock....

If you're going to be picky - then make it Grappluary... jeez - can't please some...

... and on the Eighth Day he woke up wondering what he had done over the past seven days..... man... what a wild party......



I liked yours best grap....as long as it marks in all the holidays..with double time and a half of course....no point otherwise....


I am ok with  Jan 1st  being  a Monday as long as the 31.Dec is a Sunday.....

its too confusing otherwise....
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Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 1:06am
 
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 9:45pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 9:26pm:
What happened to the proposal for Grapplerary, the 13th Month?   I thought that was hewn from living rock....

If you're going to be picky - then make it Grappluary... jeez - can't please some...

... and on the Eighth Day he woke up wondering what he had done over the past seven days..... man... what a wild party......



I liked yours best grap....as long as it marks in all the holidays..with double time and a half of course....no point otherwise....


I am ok with  Jan 1st  being  a Monday as long as the 31.Dec is a Sunday.....

its too confusing otherwise....



Dang - kids finished school today - tomorrow and onwards will be hell... amazing how many of the kids at the high school across the road have cars... I was lucky to afford the school bus..... three pence, a windfall if you could 'skip the duc' and not pay for the trip by slipping past him in the crowd.   Smiley
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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 4:31am
 
The French Revolutionary Calendar (or Republican Calendar) was officially adopted in France on October 24, 1793 and abolished on 1 January 1806 by Emperor Napoleon I. It was used again briefly during under the Paris Commune in 1871. The French also established a new clock, in which the day was divided in ten hours of a hundred minutes of a hundred seconds - exactly 100,000 seconds per day.

The calendar was adopted more than one year after the advent of the First Republic (there was no year 1), after a long debate involving the mathematicians Romme and Monge, the poets Chénier and Fabre d’ Eglantine and the painter David. The mathematicians contributed equal month division, and a decimal measures of time. The poets contributed the name of the days, choosing the names of plants, domestic animals and tools; the months rhyme three by three, according to the "sonority" of the seasons.

Hmmm...
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Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 5:49pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 9:26pm:
What happened to the proposal for Grapplerary, the 13th Month?   I thought that was hewn from living rock....

If you're going to be picky - then make it Grappluary... jeez - can't please some...

... and on the Eighth Day he woke up wondering what he had done over the past seven days..... man... what a wild party......


It's a bit of mouthful on the tongue. The 13th day of Grappluary....

The original name for the 13th month was 'Sol' which fell between June and July. However, I would add a new month before March. This is because the months September, October, November and December actually means 7, 8, 9 and 10. You see, the original Roman calendar was 10 months, with the first month being March and December being the last month. The Romans then added two additional months prior to March.

So, in order to retain the Roman tradition, March to December shall remain the same, but any additional month shall be inserted before March.

So, in your case, it would be January, February, Grappluary, March, April....
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Reply #11 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
The Heartless Felon wrote on Dec 17th, 2020 at 4:31am:
The French Revolutionary Calendar (or Republican Calendar) was officially adopted in France on October 24, 1793 and abolished on 1 January 1806 by Emperor Napoleon I. It was used again briefly during under the Paris Commune in 1871. The French also established a new clock, in which the day was divided in ten hours of a hundred minutes of a hundred seconds - exactly 100,000 seconds per day.

The calendar was adopted more than one year after the advent of the First Republic (there was no year 1), after a long debate involving the mathematicians Romme and Monge, the poets Chénier and Fabre d’ Eglantine and the painter David. The mathematicians contributed equal month division, and a decimal measures of time. The poets contributed the name of the days, choosing the names of plants, domestic animals and tools; the months rhyme three by three, according to the "sonority" of the seasons.

Hmmm...


An even older French calendar, pre-roman, when the day started at nightfall. At least they are practiced in it.

Perhaps we should use the Mayan calendar, we are living in the afterlife and the world ended in 2012. Although I've always wondered how a circular thing, calendar in this case, has a beginning and an end.
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Reply #12 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 7:17pm
 
Some 'mystics' will tell you the 13th month was Arachne - The Spider - midway between
Taurus and Gemini and allegedly with enormous powers.  Bob Dylan is one such.

Grappluary do?  13th of Grappluary rolls off the tongue a bit... easier than Jan-U-Ary or Febry...

Grapptober?  Not Grappmember.... brrr.. shades of Austin Powers...

Grappmember - he's the man, the man with the ironic touch,
Sarcastic touch (da doom, da doom da doom da doo)
Golden words he will pour in your ear,
But your ears can't define what is clear,
blah, blah, blah..

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Reply #13 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 7:23pm
 
Auggie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.


Why is it madness?

Why should the first day of the year NOT be a Sunday?


Simply because Monday is the first day of the week.

It's in the big book.

"And on the seventh day (sunday) God rested."

That means Sunday is the seventh day and Monday is the first.

SIMPLES.


Well, why shouldn't the first day of the year be a monday?

Let's try again.


Let's try one more time, why does it matter what day the year starts on? Who gives a F? Why not in that case do away with names altogether and just use numbers. 1/1/1/1, first day of the first week in the first month of year 1.

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Reply #14 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 5:35am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 15th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
Next you will be asking for the imperial measurement system be replaced by some metric system or other.

It's madness I tell you madness.


Why is it madness?

Why should the first day of the year NOT be a Sunday?


Simply because Monday is the first day of the week.

It's in the big book.

"And on the seventh day (sunday) God rested."

That means Sunday is the seventh day and Monday is the first.

SIMPLES.


Not everyone reads the same book...
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