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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #150 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:34am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 7:31am:
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What do you think the "System of Base Load" is?


I think it is gibberish. You?


Why?

Because that suits your claim ....

without proof/explanation.  Roll Eyes
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #151 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:39am
 
Because it is gibberish. If you are such a big fan of this person, why can you not explain what they are trying to say?
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #152 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:27am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:39am:
Because it is gibberish. If you are such a big fan of this person, why can you not explain what they are trying to say?


I'm not a "fan" .. you wanker

he has been one of my best mates for nearly 50 years.

That you say you can't understand what points he's making is just a sham/fishing expedition.

He spent over 40 years working in the electricity generation industry......

I am inclined to believe he has more expertise in that industry & it's market forces than someone like yourself who thinks they know everything.

So unless you have something concrete to add other than your obfuscation you've proven nothing in this whole thread... so pharque off.
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #153 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 6:24pm
 
Here you go FD of the manipulative church of renewables.

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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #154 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:55pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:27am:
freediver wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:39am:
Because it is gibberish. If you are such a big fan of this person, why can you not explain what they are trying to say?


I'm not a "fan" .. you wanker

he has been one of my best mates for nearly 50 years.

That you say you can't understand what points he's making is just a sham/fishing expedition.

He spent over 40 years working in the electricity generation industry......

I am inclined to believe he has more expertise in that industry & it's market forces than someone like yourself who thinks they know everything.

So unless you have something concrete to add other than your obfuscation you've proven nothing in this whole thread... so pharque off.


People who work in an industry have a combination of knowledge and bias. It is easy to not look at other options with a balanced view.
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #155 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:33pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:55pm:
It is easy to not look at other options with a balanced view.



So tell us about this nirvana where we don't need baseload power. It should be easy as FD says there is no such thing. Wink
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #156 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 6:23am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:55pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:27am:
freediver wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:39am:
Because it is gibberish. If you are such a big fan of this person, why can you not explain what they are trying to say?


I'm not a "fan" .. you wanker

he has been one of my best mates for nearly 50 years.

That you say you can't understand what points he's making is just a sham/fishing expedition.

He spent over 40 years working in the electricity generation industry......

I am inclined to believe he has more expertise in that industry & it's market forces than someone like yourself who thinks they know everything.

So unless you have something concrete to add other than your obfuscation you've proven nothing in this whole thread... so pharque off.


People who work in an industry have a combination of knowledge and bias. It is easy to not look at other options with a balanced view.


Well he certainly hasn't done that .... he addresses the use of renewables & the part they can play............

but he also addresses their shortfalls & impacts on being able to maintain a required baseload and how it will impact costs of electricity.

That is if you read his quotes I posted.

You should ask yourself why so little has actually been done to axe coal fired power.

According to FD(Greta) base load power "isn't real".

So when the reality is too hard he denies it's existence.

Ask any electricity producer - it very much exists.

I thought it was only climate change deniers who were supposed to deny reality?
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Re: no such thing as baseline power demand
Reply #157 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 7:30am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:46am:
Public utilities such as the supply of water and electricity should never be in the hands of private enterprise.


Bingo! Now tell that to your liberal mates who continue to sell everything off.
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #158 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:09am
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:27am:
freediver wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:39am:
Because it is gibberish. If you are such a big fan of this person, why can you not explain what they are trying to say?


I'm not a "fan" .. you wanker

he has been one of my best mates for nearly 50 years.

That you say you can't understand what points he's making is just a sham/fishing expedition.

He spent over 40 years working in the electricity generation industry......

I am inclined to believe he has more expertise in that industry & it's market forces than someone like yourself who thinks they know everything.

So unless you have something concrete to add other than your obfuscation you've proven nothing in this whole thread... so pharque off.


You can't understand them either. I don't think even he can. Being his lover for 50 years is irrelevant.

Feel free to prove me wrong though. What do you think the "System of Base Load" is?
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #159 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:22am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:09am:
You can't understand them either. I don't think even he can. Being his lover for 50 years is irrelevant.

Feel free to prove me wrong though. What do you think the "System of Base Load" is?


Whether the sun is shining or the wind is blowing, coal and gas fired boilers provide base line power to the city and country regions.

And if needs be during peaks the coal and gas fired boilers can also handle that.

Ever since privatization and AGW came along electricity prices have only been increasing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-18/electricity-price-rises-chart-of-the-day/...

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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #160 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:26am
 
What do you think the "System of Base Load" is Ajax?
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #161 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:49am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:26am:
What do you think the "System of Base Load" is Ajax?


You work it out FD.

Below are the number of households in Melbourne and then we also have industry.

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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #162 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:58am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:49am:
freediver wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:26am:
What do you think the "System of Base Load" is Ajax?


You work it out FD.

Below are the number of households in Melbourne and then we also have industry.

https://i.ibb.co/FJ41kxv/HM.jpg


I have worked it out. It is gibberish, from Gnads' lover who thinks he understands the economics of the electricity market because he sweeps the floor in a power station.
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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #163 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 9:07am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:58am:
Ajax wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:49am:
freediver wrote on Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:26am:
What do you think the "System of Base Load" is Ajax?


You work it out FD.

Below are the number of households in Melbourne and then we also have industry.

https://i.ibb.co/FJ41kxv/HM.jpg


I have worked it out. It is gibberish, from Gnads' lover who thinks he understands the economics of the electricity market because he sweeps the floor in a power station.


There you go FD.

Even a kid can work it out know.

Just for households........... Wink Smiley

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The units above are out of wack.

See below........ Smiley

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The national average for electricity consumption in Australia is 6570 kWh per year or 18 kWh per day


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Re: no such thing as baseload power demand
Reply #164 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 10:44am
 
I’m ancient enough to recall when discussions of this kind took place the POPULATION BOMB was invariably part of the debate. Is it political correctness that’s put a lid on such considerations or can our species continue to breed at a suicidal rate without concern for the consequences? Never mind, a few more plagues out of China will reduce demand for ‘base load’ whatever that means.
On the other hand we may see a successful application of electric energy supplied by clean plasma generators or other emerging technologies.

https://rh.gatech.edu/features/12-emerging-technologies-may-help-power-future

However, given our species destructive urges to alter the natural world any unlimited form of inexpensive energy could leave us with the massive consequences of efficient, cheap terraforming. Glad I’ll soon be leaving the planet.
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