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Reply #15 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 11:59am
 
If the ALP were in Power - they would be giving all these major Corps and Companies $million dollar packages like they did before and these Corps/Companies ran away with the money - a lot going to CEO bonuses.
The money should be spent on the People, not the Corps/Companies. They chose Privatisation - they're on their own. As too are the Privatised Schools.
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Reply #16 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:09am:
There is no such thing as baseline power demand.


Wrong. If you accept that there is a minimum power requirement - why is that not baseload?

BTW what is Baseline power?
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Reply #17 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:42pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:09am:
There is no such thing as baseline power demand.


Wrong. If you accept that there is a minimum power requirement - why is that not baseload?

BTW what is Baseline power?


So if you believe Freediver is wrong, why dont you tell us what Baseload is?
And what determines baseload?  Wink
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Reply #18 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:46pm
 
The variable is more enterprising though
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Reply #19 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:57pm
 
JaSin. wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 11:59am:
If the ALP were in Power - they would be giving all these major Corps and Companies $million dollar packages like they did before and these Corps/Companies ran away with the money - a lot going to CEO bonuses.
The money should be spent on the People, not the Corps/Companies. They chose Privatisation - they're on their own. As too are the Privatised Schools.



And privatisation is a "Labor thing?"

You really do live in an alternate universe to the rest of us, don't you?

What's it like there?
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Reply #20 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:06pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:19am:
A profit is just as good as a handout.


But expectation is to be getting both.
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Reply #21 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:12pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:46am:
Public utilities such as the supply of water and electricity should never be in the hands of private enterprise.


True.
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Reply #22 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:13pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:42pm:
So if you believe Freediver is wrong, why dont you tell us what Baseload is?


Baseload power is the minimum power required at a point in time.

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:42pm:
And what determines baseload? 


Baseload is determined by many things. Time of day, air conditioning, cooking. It depends on the drag on the grid.

"Baseload is the term commonly used to describe the amount of electricity demand required on a continuous basis, i.e. 24 hours a day all year round, to power continuous industrial processes, and essential services such as traffic lights, hospitals etc. "

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_...


Glad to help those in need. Wink
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Reply #23 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:17pm
 
Base load supply to me seems more of a real thing than demand.

Where older power systems Coal gas etc have a real life base supply value.
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Reply #24 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:20pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:09am:
There is no such thing as baseline power demand.


Wrong. If you accept that there is a minimum power requirement - why is that not baseload?

BTW what is Baseline power?


There is no real minimum. It depends entirely on price. For example, under the current crude arrangements, a lot of things run on "off-peak" power because it is cheaper. If it wasn't cheaper, a lot of that demand would evaporate.

Likewise, a lot of the peak demand would disappear if the price paid reflected the current marginal cost of production.
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Reply #25 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:20pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:12pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:46am:
Public utilities such as the supply of water and electricity should never be in the hands of private enterprise.


True.


And an explanation as to why shouldn't be required...

We are where we are, because neo-liberal Governments have ceded many of the necessities of civilised life to the "profit motive".


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Reply #26 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:30pm
 
To you, Freediver Baggins, I give The Light of Eärendil, our most beloved star. May it be a light for you
when all other lights go out*.


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Which they will do without fossil fuel dispatchable electricity.
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Reply #27 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:20pm:
There is no real minimum. It depends entirely on price.


So bugger the hospitals; they don't need no stinkin' power? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #28 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:33pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:20pm:
There is no real minimum. It depends entirely on price.


So bugger the hospitals; they don't need no stinkin' power? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Correct. Anything that "needs" power has it's own backup generators.
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Reply #29 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:34pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 1:20pm:
There is no real minimum. It depends entirely on price.


So bugger the hospitals; they don't need no stinkin' power? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Correct. Anything that "needs" power has it's own backup generators.
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