More from my friend in response to Freedivers continued BS.
Quote:Base load is not the reason for stopping the use of more renewables.
Simply put Baseload is the reason for the most consistent supply of power required for system stability whilst at the same time supplying power by the most efficient and economical means.
Sure the industry is changing and putting the above aside is the risk. Risk of supply, Risk of system efficiency, Risk of a cost efficiency. Put that aside, “The Consumer WILL PAY DEARLY” either by way of electricity costs and/or government subsidies used to prop it up.
And don’t forget Enormous System Distribution requirements for renewables spread all over the country rather than centralization.
Strange thing the dickhead says no such thing as base load demand then says baseload demand is the most common reason..... (Wanker)
The terminology may be changing to accommodate alternative views, for sure, however it will not be long before the people are a wake up and start to go off grid with alternative systems ( and I applaud this approach, if you have the money).
Take all that continuous and growing demand out of the system then they best stick to A BASE LOAD DEMAND SYTEM for running industry, because industry will go to wherever it is cheaper and not the profiteers of private enterprise. They will simply build there own IF IT IS CHEAPER.
Maybe there is an answer, the purveyors of More Renewables should concentrate on stand alone off grid systems and stop smacking with a perfectly good cost effective power system.
BRING BACK THE MERIT BASE SYSTEM ( Does the wanker know about that, I wonder) Oh the politics, I am so glad I am retired from this industry.
If he does not like the term Baseload then maybe the wanker would like the Minimum system requirements for continuity of supply and cheapest power supply.
Errr no that is baseload also.
You should probably talk to **** *****, I believe he does bidding to the system as part of his job now as I have done previously.
Times are a changing.
Even Wiki has a section explaining BASELOAD Demand for people like FD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load#:~:text=The%20baseload%20(also%20base%20... Quote:The baseload[1] (also base load) on a grid is the minimum level of demand on an electrical grid over a span of time, for example, one week. This demand can be met by unvarying power plants,[2] dispatchable generation,[3] or by a collection of smaller intermittent energy sources,[4] depending on which approach has the best mix of low cost, availability and high reliability in any particular market. The remainder of demand, varying throughout a day, is met by dispatchable generation which can be turned up or down quickly, such as load following power plants, peaking power plants, or energy storage.
Power plants that do not change their power output quickly, such as large coal or nuclear plants, are generally called baseload power plants.[2][5] Historically, most or all of baseload demand was met with baseload power plants, however with increasing levels of renewables and advances in flexible generation this is becoming less common.[6]
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2 Economics
3 See also
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Description
Grid operators take long and short term bids to provide electricity over various time periods and balance supply and demand continuously. The detailed adjustments are known as the unit commitment problem in electrical power production.
While historically large power grids used unvarying power plants to meet the base load, there is no specific technical requirement for this to be so. The base load can equally well be met by the appropriate quantity of intermittent power sources and dispatchable generation.
Further from friend -
Quote:I was just reading Stanwells annual report. See extract below This is going to get worse for NEM as the proportion of renewables increases.
Baseload maintains greater system stability. As renewables increase the pressure will be to reduce Baseload ( This is what the dickheads of renewables want. i.e. more exposure to be able to sell their crap at the expense of Baseload requirements)
That affect will be more critical at times of peak power demand, It is already happening and this will be an even more critical aspect of power supply. That is why the retailers like ergon are giving monetary gifts for smart air conditioners, while in reality all it is, is installing switching to switch off or greatly reduce power consumption over these periods. Don’t be surprised if they want to be able to switch off more in the future. They already do this with hot water. So say goodbye to electricity being an essential service.
Stanwell extract:-
“Energy reliability and security of supply is critical The challenge in the NEM as a whole, continues to be ensuring there is enough generation capacity to supply peak demand, even if peak demand occurs for just for a few days or hours in summer each year. Ensuring a reliable and secure supply of electricity, as the generation mix continues to shift, is paramount.
The proportion of renewable energy, along with the rate at which batteries and other technologies are introduced to the market, is changing the supply and demand dynamics of the NEM.”