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no such thing as baseload power demand
Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:09am
 
There is no such thing as baseload power demand. What we actually have is a highly variable demand, with all sorts of peaks and troughs. We have put all sorts of economic mechanisms in place to make it look like baseline demand, so that the amount consumed looks as close as possible to how electricity has traditionally been produced. Similar economic mechanisms can be used to manage more variable supply as well as demand. The government does not need to micromanage this. They merely need to get out of the way and let it happen.
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Reply #1 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:13am
 
Both are right, no?
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Reply #2 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:15am
 
Your forgetting one thing FD like the leeches that they are private corporations wont budge unless the government hands out some money.

ScoMo has already said to the private corporations STEP UP who want to do this.

I haven't heard anything, has anyone stepped up to the plate has anyone put their hand up....?

Unless there are subsidies the leeches wont budge.
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Reply #3 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:19am
 
A profit is just as good as a handout.
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Reply #4 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:25am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:19am:
A profit is just as good as a handout.


But didn't you just say the government should stay clear of such issues.....???

If the government doesn't get involved nothing will happen...!!!

We have to hand over tax payer dollars for the private corporations to make a move.

So what is it....???

Does the government get involved....???

YES OR NO.....!!
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Reply #5 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:26am
 
Which is better?
A State induced Domestic Economy thriving or the previous Federal induced International Economy dominating?
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Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:31am
 
It's a bit like covid.

The government came to the party.

I didn't see any multi nationals handing out billions of dollars for the Australian people to help them get through this crisis.
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Reply #7 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:37am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:31am:
It's a bit like covid.

The government came to the party.

I didn't see any multi nationals handing out billions of dollars for the Australian people to help them get through this crisis.


True. But a lot of Business's adapted and took on things like manufacturing masks and other 'essentials' to both stay alive and adapt to a more 'essential' need of market. Doing a Jamie Oliver.

But true - there are many more Private Corps that put their hand out than offer any form of national 'assistence'.
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Reply #8 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:39am
 
...Qantas. Putting its hand out big time to the Taxpayers, then outsourcing more overseas.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:40am
 
It was mainly small business that adapted and made masks and hand sanitizes.

In other words the people.

The multi nationals all said please give us some tax payer dollars so we don't sink
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Reply #10 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:45am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:19am:
A profit is just as good as a handout.


So they're not making profits at the prices being charged for electricity today? Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:46am
 
Public utilities such as the supply of water and electricity should never be in the hands of private enterprise.
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Reply #12 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:04am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:25am:
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:19am:
A profit is just as good as a handout.


But didn't you just say the government should stay clear of such issues.....???

If the government doesn't get involved nothing will happen...!!!

We have to hand over tax payer dollars for the private corporations to make a move.

So what is it....???

Does the government get involved....???

YES OR NO.....!!


I think you'll find that people are capable of making money without the government holding their hand.

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Public utilities such as the supply of water and electricity should never be in the hands of private enterprise.


Why not? Because they are 'public'?
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Reply #13 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 11:32am
 

Politicians are ruled by their desire for ['addiction' for] popularity.

Corporations know this, and demand from them, what all governments ['by hook or by crook'] are able to provide to them.



1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil....




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Reply #14 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 11:56am
 
A lot of Governments around the world are no match for their Private Corporations and Companies.
C.H.O.A.M
Combine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles

...just like all the Car Dealerships work together.

The Australian Government is just barely hanging on. How many more Royal Commissions are they going to be able to afford to do?
Soon Australia will be 'Privatised' above a Republic blanket of smaller 'Privatised' Political nations like Riverina, Capricornia, Cape York, Sterling, Gippsland and more.

It's only holding on via the Gov-Gen for the British and the PM's for the USA - both the International arena of Federal.
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