aquascoot wrote on Nov 27^th, 2020 at 4:35pm:



Apologist.

We need to have our own Terrorists, our own Pirates.
Need to compete with the Enemy on all levels.
Unleash the 300 Spartan SAS 'elites' to do what they do.
Hire out our Troops as Mercs for ally nations and peoples under oppression from Enemies. That will keep em 'blooded' with action - the best training for the bigger campaigns.

There is no 'honor' in War, as there is none in Suicide.
There is only Survival.
We must 'Survive' before we can fight like a Hero.

Gnads wrote on Nov 29^th, 2020 at 9:48am:


Re-read the post, and the links I included.

Christchurch was not cited as a "one off" example (as though there aren't others), but merely as one example in an increasing number of them.

The thread title is "The rising global threat of far right terrorism".

I included a link in which ASIO expresses its own concerns about the rise of Right Wing Extremism/terrorism.

From the article:

"Far-right violent extremism constitutes up to 40% of the Australian domestic spy agency’s counter-terrorism caseload, up from 10-15% before 2016, a senior official has said."

Still, ASIO aren't the only ones talking about it...

From one particular U.S Think Tank, comes this:

"First, far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators, including from far-left networks and individuals inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda. Right-wing attacks and plots account for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years."

Granted, only a small (~26 year) sample size, but you get the idea.

Yes, Right Wing Terrorism is a "thing", however unpalatable you find the idea, (or however "offensive" Right Wing Politicians find the label  )


So, contrary to what many right-aligned posters are trying to imply, the premise of the thread would indeed appear to be correct.

But no, let's make it "all about the left"...as usual.

"Look over there!"



https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

I note the careful use of  the term 'THREAT' here - since right wing terrorism in OUR backyard scarcely exists....

Anyone who speaks out and says 'no' to the latest trend is somehow labeled 'right wing' and therefore 'must' be a 'threat' - leave out the reality that much of the actual violence etc comes from those doing the demanding, who also always demand that draconian penalties be exacted against anyone who opposes them, as well as being more than happy to turn to violence against them in many ways.

Nowadays it's violent' just to say NO to some jerk-off who happens to be in the wrong... and everyone must run scared to speak out... try it some time and get back to me....

Frankly it astounds me that it should be reported that ASIO spends that much effort on homegrown 'right wing terrorists' considering their absolute rarity in the spectrum of actual threats.... they'd be far better served looking more closely at those who advocate change after change after change to suit themselves only - which, BTW, is a form of violence against 'the rest' - the majority.

I suppose that's what happens when ASIO etc employ large numbers of sheilas.... all you ever hear about is the sheila ravings... drunk at the fount of social science nonsense and taken with a strong draught of Delphic Oracle absolutism....

Perhaps Mix Master could point us to all these dire incidents in OUR BACKYARD that could create such a storm..... sometime in this century would be nice... where are all these mad bombers and shooters killing off Chinks, Slopes, Mussos, Lebs, Poofs, Lesos, Wops generally (especially Spicks), and so forth?

Do they (gasps) belong to some Offshore national and therefore 'right wing' group such as the Armenians who killed off the Turkish Ambassador in Dover Heights?  How does that apply to US - the real people of Australia?

How Many HOMEGROWN right wing terrorist groups and incidents can you count right now????

Take your time...........

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2020 at 10:04am:


I didn't say it shouldn't be counted

it's an indication of how few

dozens as opposed to hundreds/thousands

You don't get to make the rules as to what I write and it's intent

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 29^th, 2020 at 4:53pm:



Is your rant directed at terrorism, per se, or feminism?

Notwithstanding that the thread is about "global right wing terrorism", and that you seem to be be conflating local feminism with a broader issue, I'm keen to get your own thoughts on the premise of the original thread.

Please, take your time...

The original thread was actually about "the rising global threat of right wing terrorism".

I cited a reasonably local example, true.

There are others, of course.

"In August 2016, Phillip Galea was charged with several terrorist offences. Galea had conducted "surveillance" of "left-wing premises" and planned to carry out bombings. Explosive ingredients were found at his home. Galea had links with organisations such as Combat 18 and the United Patriots Front (UPF). On 5 December 2019, a jury found Galea guilty of planning and preparing a terror attack."

"In 2017 the Sydney Morning Herald reported on the conviction of neo-Nazi Michael James Holt, 26 who had threatened to carry out a mass shooting attack and considered Westfield Tuggerah as a target. He had manufactured home-made guns, knuckle dusters and slingshots in his grandfather's garage. Raids on his mother's home and a hotel room discovered more weapons including several firearms, slingshots and knuckle dusters."

"Of particular significance was the 1984 breakaway of the Australian Nationalists’ Movement (ANM) from National Action. The ANM split because they considered National Action to be insufficiently explicit in its anti-Semitism and neo-Nazism, and members of the newly formed group proceeded to launch a campaign of violence that included brutal assaults and fire-bombings (Henderson 2002). When sentencing the leader for 53 offences including wilful damage, assault occasioning grievous bodily harm, arson and causing an explosion the Judge noted: It is, in my view, no overstatement or exaggeration to term your campaign of those months a terrorist campaign and again it is no exaggeration to say that in that period you waged a guerrilla war against the public (Moss 1991: 221).Individuals within National Action and ANM were also responsible for the murders of fellow members (James 2005) and two members of National Action fired shots into the home of a representative of the African National Congress in Australia (Bearup 2009). This led the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation to note in their 1989–90 annual report that, ‘the only discernible domestic threat of politically motivated violence comes from the racist right’

But no, "right wing", "terrorism" and 'Straya" should never be used in the same sentence, right? 

Now, back to our regular programming (a.k.a the "rising global threat of Right Wing Terrorism)...

Mix_Master wrote on Nov 30^th, 2020 at 7:27am:



If it's rising it's because politicians are doing nothing about Islamic terrorism

Morrison & Co just negotiated to release three terrorists from Thailand. That was a sign of encouragement for the Islamists, how can it be viewed as anything else, it's not clamping down on Islamists

Just the other day they gave a convicted terrorist a visa to stay in Australia just as he finished his sentence, instead of deporting him immediately and bidding him good riddance. His citizenship was revoked but they're giving him a chance re-apply for citizenship and to continue the danger that muslim freak presents to the community

And you think no one should react to these stupid political games. If you don't want rightwing extremism, then one way to prevent it, is to cancel out Islamic extremism. But while ever we have brain-dead politicians like the Libs, Labs and the Greens, we'll always have Islamic terrorism, it's in their immigration program