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Reply #75 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
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Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

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BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.




I've tried to push the difference between Islamics and Islamists on them for ages.... slow learners.  Ah, Turkic you say?  Old mates by now.

I've also tried for ages to put across that the principal areas that send difficult cases to Australia and the West are generally MEslims or Afrislims of various hues.  Most 'other' Muslims are generally OK, as are the majority even of those groups.

I've known and traded with an Iraqi - offered some freebies online and he was setting up down the lake a bit.  Nice bloke and a nice lady his missus.
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Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Reply #76 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:
Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

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BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.

See thats your problem, you dont even look at what people are posting, too busy yourself posting yawning emojies. My view is and always has been that Islamic immigration is incompatible with our culture and should be stopped. You have never addressed this argument but instead pretend that I am arguing that all Muslims are terrorists, all you have is strawmen. Despite your friend in the military my argument is valid and the fact that we have a substantial number of Muslims born in this country who identify with radical Islam and who seek to commit terrorist  acts against Australians shows clearly the validity of it. We need to adjust our immigration policy to those who are prepare d to assimilate and who share common values, thats only common sense.
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Reply #77 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:37pm
 
When exactly was it that we became the dumping ground for the world's cast-offs?  Apart from how is it remotely possible to sustain them while diminishing real economic activity, and even try to assimilate them?

How do you assimilate people who believe in this:-

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Reply #78 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:49pm
 
rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:
Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have I EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

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BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.

See thats your problem, you dont even look at what people are posting, too busy yourself posting yawning emojies. My view is and always has been that Islamic immigration is incompatible with our culture and should be stopped. You have never addressed this argument but instead pretend that I am arguing that all Muslims are terrorists, all you have is strawmen. Despite your friend in the military my argument is valid and the fact that we have a substantial number of Muslims born in this country who identify with radical Islam and who seek to commit terrorist  acts against Australians shows clearly the validity of it. We need to adjust our immigration policy to those who are prepare d to assimilate and who share common values, thats only common sense.


Rhino, you simply cannot claim that all Muslims are incompatible with "our culture" when we have a Multicultural society.  Muslims are not uniformly all one culture, they are a religion which overlays multiple different cultures.  An Indonesian is fundamentally different to a Pakistani and a Pakistani is different to an Iranian and an Iranian is different to a Saudi Arabian and a Saudi Arabian is different to a North African and a North African is different to a Southern African and a Southern African is different to an American.   Muslims all come from different cultures.  All are quite different to each other.  You are being Islamophobic in your view that all Muslims are identical.  Grow up.  We need perhaps to be a little more particular about what sort of Muslims we accept.  We don't need blanket expressions of hatred.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #79 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm
 
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.
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Reply #80 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm
 
rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #81 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm:
rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.
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Reply #82 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm:
rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.  Roll Eyes

Don't sway back towards other groups. Muslims around the world are killing every hour. How do you tell the bad ones from the good ones?
At least the millitary dress in a uniform. Easy to identify.
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Reply #83 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:55pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.



the same way you can tell apart an extremist christian.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #84 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:56pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:55pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.



the same way you can tell apart an extremist christian.   Roll Eyes



And how many of them have struck down people this week?
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Reply #85 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:57pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:55pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.



the same way you can tell apart an extremist christian.   Roll Eyes



And how many of them have struck down people this week?


No idea ... i don't keep count.
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Reply #86 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:02pm
 
There's nothing to count.  Grin
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Reply #87 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:03pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:02pm:
There's nothing to count.  Grin


you keep telling yourself that
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Reply #88 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:10pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:03pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:02pm:
There's nothing to count.  Grin


you keep telling yourself that



In saying that you must know of some.......one.....half of one.......maybe a waterbomb thrown into a blm protest?


I'll give you attacks from Muslims just this week.
https://thereligionofpeace.com


Your turn.
Show me all these nasty Christians....hell, anyone. Bloody atheists for all i care.
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Reply #89 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:13pm
 
The thing is, I'll concede and bend the knee if anyone can prove that any other religion is taking out people like the slimers are.

Here's my entry again.
https://thereligionofpeace.com

Now raise me.
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