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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #135 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:12pm
 
The Quran allows alcohol so why do muslims avoid it?



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And from the fruits of palm trees and grapevines you derive intoxicants as well as wholesome provision. Surely in this is a sign for those who understand.

https://quran.com/16/67

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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #136 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 5:46pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:05pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:20pm:
It would become interesting to see how people in large numbers withdraw from not having any alcohol.



they'd find an alternative ...


or start bootlegging  Cheesy Cheesy


They would largely start going through various withdrawals and then just get over it. It is the alcoholics who will have personality changes the most considerable.
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #137 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 5:57pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:12pm:
The Quran allows alcohol so why do muslims avoid it?



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And from the fruits of palm trees and grapevines you derive intoxicants as well as wholesome provision. Surely in this is a sign for those who understand.

https://quran.com/16/67



They don't all avoid it.

Many Muslims drink alcohol.

Just as many Catholics commit adultery, murder, steal, etc.

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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #138 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?
Islamic societies ban certain types of western clothing.


anyone who bans any items of clothing is an idiot.

Besides, are they banning the clothing? or the lack of clothing? Cool


No DP Smith - it would be a ban on the cultural & social reasons why women of that so called religion are forced to cover up from head to toe. Then banning that cloaking because of its patriarchal oppressive misogyny.
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #139 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 5:57pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:12pm:
The Quran allows alcohol so why do muslims avoid it?



Quote:
And from the fruits of palm trees and grapevines you derive intoxicants as well as wholesome provision. Surely in this is a sign for those who understand.

https://quran.com/16/67



They don't all avoid it.

Many Muslims drink alcohol.

Just as many Catholics commit adultery, murder, steal, etc.



But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.

The ones demanding the acceptance of Sharia, the Burka, Halal certification, women only days at public venues, polygamy for men only.

Get a grip  Roll Eyes
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #140 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm:
But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.



wanna bet?  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #141 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:41pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:04pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?


What about alcohol and fast food?


After you answer my question FD ... are you such an idiot? A simple yes or no will suffice.


No.
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #142 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:41pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm:
But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.



wanna bet?  Cheesy Cheesy


So they're hypocrites & liars in their own mosques?
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #143 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:58pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 5:57pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:12pm:
The Quran allows alcohol so why do muslims avoid it?



Quote:
And from the fruits of palm trees and grapevines you derive intoxicants as well as wholesome provision. Surely in this is a sign for those who understand.

https://quran.com/16/67



They don't all avoid it.

Many Muslims drink alcohol.

Just as many Catholics commit adultery, murder, steal, etc.



But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.



According to whom?

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Reply #144 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:00pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm:
But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.



wanna bet?  Cheesy Cheesy


So they're hypocrites & liars in their own mosques?


There are hypocrites and liars in all walks of life and all religions.

There are Christians who murder, steal, commit adultery, etc.

Similarly there are many Muslims who drink alcohol, and many of them are quite open about it.

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Reply #145 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:50pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm:
But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.



wanna bet?  Cheesy Cheesy


So they're hypocrites & liars in their own mosques?


no different to every other religious nutter.
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Reply #146 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:00pm:
There are hypocrites and liars in all walks of life and all religions.

There are Christians who murder, steal, commit adultery, etc.



many 'mafiosi' for example are very religious.
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Reply #147 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 9:14pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 5:57pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:12pm:
The Quran allows alcohol so why do muslims avoid it?



Quote:
And from the fruits of palm trees and grapevines you derive intoxicants as well as wholesome provision. Surely in this is a sign for those who understand.

https://quran.com/16/67



They don't all avoid it.

Many Muslims drink alcohol.

Just as many Catholics commit adultery, murder, steal, etc.



But supposedly not the ones who have come here in the last 2 decades or a tad longer.

The ones demanding the acceptance of Sharia, the Burka, Halal certification, women only days at public venues, polygamy for men only.

Get a grip  Roll Eyes


The Quran outlaws alcohol and also allows it.

What does the fine print say about this?

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Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.

https://quran.com/4/82




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Reply #148 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 5:27am
 
Moslems are like Aboriginals.
They both look towards Africa and all things 'the Land'.

That is why Islam will fail to be 'the' Middle-Eastern Religion (brought in by Namerica, Samerica, Sahul) and why Aboriginals will fail to become 'Republican Australians'.

...both 'serve' Africa.
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #149 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:32am
 
Its a numbers game. Indo politicians are trying to pull the same stunt that worked for Erdogan in Turkey.
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The West is not the intentional enemy of Islam, but it should be.
 
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