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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #120 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:34am
 
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 3:59pm:
FD claims that burqas are as dangerous as alcohol, but I haven't seen any warnings like this from health departments:

"Wearing burqas too much can harm your health.

"Excessive burqa wearing led to approximately 95,000 deaths and 2.8 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2011 – 2015, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 29 years.

"Further, excessive burqa wearing was responsible for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years.

"The economic costs of excessive burqa wearing in 2010 were estimated at $249 billion, or $2.05 a drink."


Why would someone try to compare the health risks of alcohol to burqas?

It makes no sense.

His call to ban junk food was a little closer to the mark.



Burqa wearing females have a much higher rate of illness and disease than non Burqa wearing females mainly due to vitamin d deficiency and chronic obesity.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Attire_and_Health
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Islamic Dress and Health
Since almost all the daily intake of Vitamin D is from sunlight, exposure there is significant concern for women who wear the burqa or "full hijab". This style of dress, leaving only a very small portion of skin around the eyes exposed, greatly reduces the surface area of the body which sunlight is exposed to and hence reduces the amount of Vitamin D synthesized. Such low rates of Vitamin D production will quickly exhaust the bodies excess emergency stores of Vitamin D contained in the fat and the person will likely go into a deficient state.

Due to this reason, serious vitamin D deficiency is wide-spread in many Muslim majority countries. A study performed by doctors at King Fahd University Hospital in Saudi Arabia, showed that out of all 52 women tested, all had seriously deficient levels of Vitamin D and were at risk of many serious health problems, despite living in one of the sunniest places on the planet.[10] Furthermore, in a study undertaken in Jordan, 83.3% of women wearing the most covering style of Islamic dresses were found to be deficient in summer time. This is rather striking when compared to the fact only 18.2% of Jordanian men studied were found to be deficient.[11] Jordan, like Saudi Arabia, holds the distinction of being one of the sunniest places on the planet, so the effect of wearing the burqa on Vitamin D levels and health is profound.
Obesity
It has been noted that the observance of hijab, the garments and the traditions surrounding them, can discourage exercise both psychologically and practically.[22][23] The style of dress can make it easy to hide the bloat of a large meal, and it can be physically restrictive for those who wish to exercise, especially outdoors where one has to be aware of the weather (if it is too hot or humid). In the West, where most indoor gyms are mixed-sex, exercise without Islamic dress can be very difficult for observant Muslim women, and some forms of Islamic dress can make playing almost any sport nearly impossible.[22][23]

According to The Economist magazine’s world rankings, the countries with the highest obesity rates among women are Muslim countries[22] (data from 1999-2003 show 8 of the top 10 to be Muslim majorities; Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Albania, Bahrain, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates),[24] and a 2006 study presented by Qatari expert Issam Abd Rabbu at the "Facts About Obesity" seminar, found that up to 70 percent of women living in the Gulf Arab states (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates) were overweight or obese.[25] Dr. Abdul Rahman Musaiqir, head of the Arab Center for Nutrition at Bahrain University, has said the problem of obesity among women in the Gulf states is being disguised by their Islamic dress, and that obesity rates are much higher than in developed countries.[26]

A 2011 study issued by the National Commercial Bank (NCB), Saudi Arabia’s largest bank, found that the number of Saudis suffering from high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity is increasing at an alarming rate, and a survey released by the Saudi Diabetes and Endocrine Association (SDEA) in 2010 showed that over 70 percent of the Saudi population are "alarmingly obese".[27] Figures released by the Qatar Diabetes Association (QDA) state that 20% of the population has been diagnosed as diabetic in Qatar, and the disorder is affecting more and more children.[23] Some of the health problems associated with obesity include; heart disease, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, painful wear and inflammation on weight-bearing joints, breathing problems and sleep apnea.[28]


Didnt think that one out too well did you?


When burqas start killing people at the same rate as alcohol, let me know - okay?

Cheers   Wink
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #121 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:11am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:34am:
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 3:59pm:
FD claims that burqas are as dangerous as alcohol, but I haven't seen any warnings like this from health departments:

"Wearing burqas too much can harm your health.

"Excessive burqa wearing led to approximately 95,000 deaths and 2.8 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2011 – 2015, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 29 years.

"Further, excessive burqa wearing was responsible for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years.

"The economic costs of excessive burqa wearing in 2010 were estimated at $249 billion, or $2.05 a drink."


Why would someone try to compare the health risks of alcohol to burqas?

It makes no sense.

His call to ban junk food was a little closer to the mark.



Burqa wearing females have a much higher rate of illness and disease than non Burqa wearing females mainly due to vitamin d deficiency and chronic obesity.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Attire_and_Health
Quote:
Islamic Dress and Health
Since almost all the daily intake of Vitamin D is from sunlight, exposure there is significant concern for women who wear the burqa or "full hijab". This style of dress, leaving only a very small portion of skin around the eyes exposed, greatly reduces the surface area of the body which sunlight is exposed to and hence reduces the amount of Vitamin D synthesized. Such low rates of Vitamin D production will quickly exhaust the bodies excess emergency stores of Vitamin D contained in the fat and the person will likely go into a deficient state.

Due to this reason, serious vitamin D deficiency is wide-spread in many Muslim majority countries. A study performed by doctors at King Fahd University Hospital in Saudi Arabia, showed that out of all 52 women tested, all had seriously deficient levels of Vitamin D and were at risk of many serious health problems, despite living in one of the sunniest places on the planet.[10] Furthermore, in a study undertaken in Jordan, 83.3% of women wearing the most covering style of Islamic dresses were found to be deficient in summer time. This is rather striking when compared to the fact only 18.2% of Jordanian men studied were found to be deficient.[11] Jordan, like Saudi Arabia, holds the distinction of being one of the sunniest places on the planet, so the effect of wearing the burqa on Vitamin D levels and health is profound.
Obesity
It has been noted that the observance of hijab, the garments and the traditions surrounding them, can discourage exercise both psychologically and practically.[22][23] The style of dress can make it easy to hide the bloat of a large meal, and it can be physically restrictive for those who wish to exercise, especially outdoors where one has to be aware of the weather (if it is too hot or humid). In the West, where most indoor gyms are mixed-sex, exercise without Islamic dress can be very difficult for observant Muslim women, and some forms of Islamic dress can make playing almost any sport nearly impossible.[22][23]

According to The Economist magazine’s world rankings, the countries with the highest obesity rates among women are Muslim countries[22] (data from 1999-2003 show 8 of the top 10 to be Muslim majorities; Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Albania, Bahrain, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates),[24] and a 2006 study presented by Qatari expert Issam Abd Rabbu at the "Facts About Obesity" seminar, found that up to 70 percent of women living in the Gulf Arab states (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates) were overweight or obese.[25] Dr. Abdul Rahman Musaiqir, head of the Arab Center for Nutrition at Bahrain University, has said the problem of obesity among women in the Gulf states is being disguised by their Islamic dress, and that obesity rates are much higher than in developed countries.[26]

A 2011 study issued by the National Commercial Bank (NCB), Saudi Arabia’s largest bank, found that the number of Saudis suffering from high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity is increasing at an alarming rate, and a survey released by the Saudi Diabetes and Endocrine Association (SDEA) in 2010 showed that over 70 percent of the Saudi population are "alarmingly obese".[27] Figures released by the Qatar Diabetes Association (QDA) state that 20% of the population has been diagnosed as diabetic in Qatar, and the disorder is affecting more and more children.[23] Some of the health problems associated with obesity include; heart disease, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, painful wear and inflammation on weight-bearing joints, breathing problems and sleep apnea.[28]


Didnt think that one out too well did you?


When burqas start killing people at the same rate as alcohol, let me know - okay?

Cheers   Wink
Female Muslims generally dont drink alcohol.  WinkNot doing too well here are you?  Grin
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #122 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:29am
 
rhino wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 6:34am:
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 3:59pm:
FD claims that burqas are as dangerous as alcohol, but I haven't seen any warnings like this from health departments:

"Wearing burqas too much can harm your health.

"Excessive burqa wearing led to approximately 95,000 deaths and 2.8 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2011 – 2015, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 29 years.

"Further, excessive burqa wearing was responsible for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years.

"The economic costs of excessive burqa wearing in 2010 were estimated at $249 billion, or $2.05 a drink."


Why would someone try to compare the health risks of alcohol to burqas?

It makes no sense.

His call to ban junk food was a little closer to the mark.



Burqa wearing females have a much higher rate of illness and disease than non Burqa wearing females mainly due to vitamin d deficiency and chronic obesity.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Attire_and_Health
Quote:
Islamic Dress and Health
Since almost all the daily intake of Vitamin D is from sunlight, exposure there is significant concern for women who wear the burqa or "full hijab". This style of dress, leaving only a very small portion of skin around the eyes exposed, greatly reduces the surface area of the body which sunlight is exposed to and hence reduces the amount of Vitamin D synthesized. Such low rates of Vitamin D production will quickly exhaust the bodies excess emergency stores of Vitamin D contained in the fat and the person will likely go into a deficient state.

Due to this reason, serious vitamin D deficiency is wide-spread in many Muslim majority countries. A study performed by doctors at King Fahd University Hospital in Saudi Arabia, showed that out of all 52 women tested, all had seriously deficient levels of Vitamin D and were at risk of many serious health problems, despite living in one of the sunniest places on the planet.[10] Furthermore, in a study undertaken in Jordan, 83.3% of women wearing the most covering style of Islamic dresses were found to be deficient in summer time. This is rather striking when compared to the fact only 18.2% of Jordanian men studied were found to be deficient.[11] Jordan, like Saudi Arabia, holds the distinction of being one of the sunniest places on the planet, so the effect of wearing the burqa on Vitamin D levels and health is profound.
Obesity
It has been noted that the observance of hijab, the garments and the traditions surrounding them, can discourage exercise both psychologically and practically.[22][23] The style of dress can make it easy to hide the bloat of a large meal, and it can be physically restrictive for those who wish to exercise, especially outdoors where one has to be aware of the weather (if it is too hot or humid). In the West, where most indoor gyms are mixed-sex, exercise without Islamic dress can be very difficult for observant Muslim women, and some forms of Islamic dress can make playing almost any sport nearly impossible.[22][23]

According to The Economist magazine’s world rankings, the countries with the highest obesity rates among women are Muslim countries[22] (data from 1999-2003 show 8 of the top 10 to be Muslim majorities; Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Albania, Bahrain, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates),[24] and a 2006 study presented by Qatari expert Issam Abd Rabbu at the "Facts About Obesity" seminar, found that up to 70 percent of women living in the Gulf Arab states (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates) were overweight or obese.[25] Dr. Abdul Rahman Musaiqir, head of the Arab Center for Nutrition at Bahrain University, has said the problem of obesity among women in the Gulf states is being disguised by their Islamic dress, and that obesity rates are much higher than in developed countries.[26]

A 2011 study issued by the National Commercial Bank (NCB), Saudi Arabia’s largest bank, found that the number of Saudis suffering from high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity is increasing at an alarming rate, and a survey released by the Saudi Diabetes and Endocrine Association (SDEA) in 2010 showed that over 70 percent of the Saudi population are "alarmingly obese".[27] Figures released by the Qatar Diabetes Association (QDA) state that 20% of the population has been diagnosed as diabetic in Qatar, and the disorder is affecting more and more children.[23] Some of the health problems associated with obesity include; heart disease, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, painful wear and inflammation on weight-bearing joints, breathing problems and sleep apnea.[28]


Didnt think that one out too well did you?


When burqas start killing people at the same rate as alcohol, let me know - okay?

Cheers   Wink
Female Muslims generally dont drink alcohol.  WinkNot doing too well here are you?  Grin


White flag accepted   Wink

And that folks, shows you why it's so stupid to compare burqas banned in Australia with alcohol banned in Indonesia.

Another win for the GP man!   Smiley
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Re: Alcohol ban Indonesia
Reply #123 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:54am
 
Still waiting for you to prove your claim that alcohol kills more Muslim females than Burqas.
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Reply #124 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:59am
 
rhino wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:54am:
Still waiting for you to prove your claim that alcohol kills more Muslim females than Burqas.


Lol   Grin

You should have quit while you were behind, like Gordon, FD, and JaSin.

Now you're just making yourself look rather pathetic.




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Reply #125 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 11:01am
 
Still waiting for you to prove your claim that alcohol kills more Muslim females than Burqas. Whats the issue with showing your proof?
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Reply #126 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 12:57pm
 
Nothing eh? Thought so.
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Reply #127 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:26pm
 
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?
Islamic societies ban certain types of western clothing.


anyone who bans any items of clothing is an idiot.

Besides, are they banning the clothing? or the lack of clothing? Cool
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Reply #128 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?



FD didn't answer ... I wonder why?
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Reply #129 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:27pm
 
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 3:59pm:
FD claims that burqas are as dangerous as alcohol, but I haven't seen any warnings like this from health departments:

"Wearing burqas too much can harm your health.

"Excessive burqa wearing led to approximately 95,000 deaths and 2.8 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2011 – 2015, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 29 years.

"Further, excessive burqa wearing was responsible for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years.

"The economic costs of excessive burqa wearing in 2010 were estimated at $249 billion, or $2.05 a drink."


Why would someone try to compare the health risks of alcohol to burqas?

It makes no sense.

His call to ban junk food was a little closer to the mark.



Burqa wearing females have a much higher rate of illness and disease than non Burqa wearing females mainly due to vitamin d deficiency and chronic obesity.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Attire_and_Health
Quote:
Islamic Dress and Health
Since almost all the daily intake of Vitamin D is from sunlight, exposure there is significant concern for women who wear the burqa or "full hijab". This style of dress, leaving only a very small portion of skin around the eyes exposed, greatly reduces the surface area of the body which sunlight is exposed to and hence reduces the amount of Vitamin D synthesized. Such low rates of Vitamin D production will quickly exhaust the bodies excess emergency stores of Vitamin D contained in the fat and the person will likely go into a deficient state.

Due to this reason, serious vitamin D deficiency is wide-spread in many Muslim majority countries. A study performed by doctors at King Fahd University Hospital in Saudi Arabia, showed that out of all 52 women tested, all had seriously deficient levels of Vitamin D and were at risk of many serious health problems, despite living in one of the sunniest places on the planet.[10] Furthermore, in a study undertaken in Jordan, 83.3% of women wearing the most covering style of Islamic dresses were found to be deficient in summer time. This is rather striking when compared to the fact only 18.2% of Jordanian men studied were found to be deficient.[11] Jordan, like Saudi Arabia, holds the distinction of being one of the sunniest places on the planet, so the effect of wearing the burqa on Vitamin D levels and health is profound.
Obesity
It has been noted that the observance of hijab, the garments and the traditions surrounding them, can discourage exercise both psychologically and practically.[22][23] The style of dress can make it easy to hide the bloat of a large meal, and it can be physically restrictive for those who wish to exercise, especially outdoors where one has to be aware of the weather (if it is too hot or humid). In the West, where most indoor gyms are mixed-sex, exercise without Islamic dress can be very difficult for observant Muslim women, and some forms of Islamic dress can make playing almost any sport nearly impossible.[22][23]

According to The Economist magazine’s world rankings, the countries with the highest obesity rates among women are Muslim countries[22] (data from 1999-2003 show 8 of the top 10 to be Muslim majorities; Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Albania, Bahrain, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates),[24] and a 2006 study presented by Qatari expert Issam Abd Rabbu at the "Facts About Obesity" seminar, found that up to 70 percent of women living in the Gulf Arab states (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates) were overweight or obese.[25] Dr. Abdul Rahman Musaiqir, head of the Arab Center for Nutrition at Bahrain University, has said the problem of obesity among women in the Gulf states is being disguised by their Islamic dress, and that obesity rates are much higher than in developed countries.[26]

A 2011 study issued by the National Commercial Bank (NCB), Saudi Arabia’s largest bank, found that the number of Saudis suffering from high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity is increasing at an alarming rate, and a survey released by the Saudi Diabetes and Endocrine Association (SDEA) in 2010 showed that over 70 percent of the Saudi population are "alarmingly obese".[27] Figures released by the Qatar Diabetes Association (QDA) state that 20% of the population has been diagnosed as diabetic in Qatar, and the disorder is affecting more and more children.[23] Some of the health problems associated with obesity include; heart disease, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, painful wear and inflammation on weight-bearing joints, breathing problems and sleep apnea.[28]


Didnt think that one out too well did you?


you'll find the same with people who always wear long sleeves and hats all the time ... do we ban long pants, long sleeve shirts and hats as well?
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Reply #130 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:55pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?


What about alcohol and fast food?
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Reply #131 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2020 at 12:13pm:
Why would banning alcohol in a foreign country trigger someone in Australia sooooooo much?

I'm curious   Undecided

If alcohol disappeared of the face off the planet tomorrow, it wouldn't faze me in the slightest.

Some people just can't seem to live without it though.


Some people rely on the sale of alcohol for a job. I have spent $1000 on alcohol in the last 6 months just to get me through the dull times. I could imagine a sudden disappearance of alcohol and the sale of alcohol to be the end of the taverns, bottle shops, pubs, and certain restaurants. It would become interesting to see how people in large numbers withdraw from not having any alcohol.
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Reply #132 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?


What about alcohol and fast food?


After you answer my question FD ... are you such an idiot? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #133 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:05pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:20pm:
It would become interesting to see how people in large numbers withdraw from not having any alcohol.



they'd find an alternative ...


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Reply #134 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
rhino wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 9:07pm:
How do you feel about banning the burqa John?


i think only an idiot would advocate to ban an item of clothing. Are you such an idiot FD?
Islamic societies ban certain types of western clothing.


anyone who bans any items of clothing is an idiot.

Besides, are they banning the clothing? or the lack of clothing? Cool


You mean like muzzos who will not let women wear skirts or go without head covering?

Yeah, I get it.

Muzzos 're idiots
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