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Reply #150 - Dec 3rd, 2020 at 10:50am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 3rd, 2020 at 8:44am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2020 at 1:37am:
I would hate for people to miss this one so I am posting it again.



YT, I'm convinced.


Really?  Where did you sign up, mate?  I'd like to too.  Does it come with some nice vouchers or does it include Steak Knives?  You know?  Those nice Japanese Steak Knives?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #151 - Dec 3rd, 2020 at 10:57am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2020 at 1:18am:
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People die of Covid all the time, Mort.  Fool yourself as much as you like.  I follow the results of what Governments tell me.  Why would they lie, Mort?  Oh, that's right, to scare you into slavery, right?


Believing what the government tells you is your first mistake. They lie to shape your opinion!


I think you need to get out more, Mort.  Meet a few real people, rather than those that just exist in your imagination.    Roll Eyes

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You are assuming that contractors exist around every street corner.  Maybe in the US where the population is a hell of a lot larger.  Downunder we only have 24 million people spread over a continent roughly the same size as yours.  That is a lot of area.


It shouldn't be a problem , we have 28 million people spread around Texas and never have a shortage of people who want to work.


Is that because you don't pay them unemployment benefits?  Roll Eyes

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I really don't care.  Most states have certified that Biden won, Mort.  Take it up with your States' Governments - Republican and Democrat.  El Presidente' Trump lost the election.


Did he? He may ultimately lose the count but he didn't lose the election! There are so many obvious holes in that story that if this steal stands we have just been assured we need not ever vote for President again. The winner will be selected ahead of time. If Biden is inaugurated he will be the presidential occupant because he didn't win honestly.


Why do you assume that el Presidente' Trump won honestly, Mort?  I thought you mistrusted all politicians or is it just those politicians you don't agree with?  Roll Eyes

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Believe what fantasies you want, Mort.  That means you cannot use roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, police, etc.  They are all paid for by the people for the people - socialism in otherwords.


That is a very broad and misleading definition for Public Works. By that definition any group of parishioners who raise money for a new Church are participating in socialism. 


It is what most Americans believe "socialism" is, Mort.  The banding together of people and taking of their monies.  You live with it everyday but refuse to recognise it. Roll Eyes

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So, you'd contradict your own beliefs?  You couldn't stand, you can't sit if elected, that is contrary to your stated views on Government.


Hey, it worked for John McCain. He never stood for anything but more years in the Senate. Unlike him I would want to make a positive difference regardless of the Party line!


Do you think McCain was a "loser" for being captured in Vietnam?  That is el Presidente' Trump's opinion of him was.  He is your god, isn't he? Roll Eyes

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I know you think that is the case but I am sure the reality is far different.


I understand the love of many for cradle to grave security but what are you going to do when the Left collapses America? Aside from believing it is a great thing until reality takes over! How is your Mandarin? You will benefit from knowing the language of your new Masters! 


Most people aren't interested in "cradle to the grave" the way you use the term, Mort.  Most people just want a helping hand when times are tough.  I am sure of course you shun all such help, right?  No Government help at all!  Right?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #152 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 1:53am
 
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

Ronald Reagan


Believe your government if you like, it's one of the few choices they allow you!

Of course our State pays unemployment, you have to have worked first to qualify for it.

Our President was the one with massive public support, biden/harris did good to draw flies to their rally's.

You take a wide definition of socialism to try to legitimize it. It seems in your view all government is socialism.

McCann wasn't a loser for getting captured, if not for his father he wouldn't have even been in a jet to get shot down after his fatal screw up on the USS Forrestal!

Of course many people want to feel safe and will trade their freedom for it. Cradle to grave security feels good to them. There is a major difference between giving someone a "hand up" and a "hand out"! If you are comfortable with the hand out you might as well beg on the street corner.
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Reply #153 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 2:25am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2020 at 1:37am:
I would hate for people to miss this one so I am posting it again.



So obvious yet people just obey like sheep. Many will awaken from their coma and then deny their complicity for such stupid acts that they consented to. Rather than just laugh at their foolishness.

The other day I was confronted in Walmart for not wearing a face mask. I left - disgusted! Where is peoples pride in themselves?
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Reply #154 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 3:30pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 1:53am:
Believe your government if you like, it's one of the few choices they allow you!

I have plenty of choices, Mort.  Just as many as you, except I can't own a semi-automatic longarm or a pump-action shotgun.  Do I need them?  No. Do I want them?  No.  I had plenty of pleasure with them and many fully automatic weapons when I was in the Army.  I worked those childish fantasies out of my system.  Ooops, I mentioned guns, didn't I? Naughty me.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Roll Eyes

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Of course our State pays unemployment, you have to have worked first to qualify for it.


And how long does it last and and at what level is it?

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Our President was the one with massive public support, biden/harris did good to draw flies to their rally's.


They still drew 8 million (approximately) more votes than Trump did.  They won.  Trump lost.   Roll Eyes

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You take a wide definition of socialism to try to legitimize it. It seems in your view all government is socialism.


Errr, no.  I am just basing it on what you've told me about how Americans view socialism.   Roll Eyes

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McCann wasn't a loser for getting captured, if not for his father he wouldn't have even been in a jet to get shot down after his fatal screw up on the USS Forrestal!


Yet that was how Trump described him.  Are you suggesting that Trump was wrong?  Oh, dear.   Roll Eyes

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Of course many people want to feel safe and will trade their freedom for it. Cradle to grave security feels good to them. There is a major difference between giving someone a "hand up" and a "hand out"! If you are comfortable with the hand out you might as well beg on the street corner.


Amazing how you describe your fellow Americans.  Makes me wonder why you are an American if you hold all your fellow citizens in such contempt.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #155 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 12:52am
 
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I have plenty of choices, Mort.  Just as many as you, except I can't own a semi-automatic longarm or a pump-action shotgun.  Do I need them?  No. Do I want them?  No.  I had plenty of pleasure with them and many fully automatic weapons when I was in the Army.  I worked those childish fantasies out of my system.  Ooops, I mentioned guns, didn't I? Naughty me.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me


I doubt your society would be less safe without those restrictions, however it does tell the population who is in charge.

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Of course our State pays unemployment, you have to have worked first to qualify for it.


And how long does it last and and at what level is it?


Pre-covid it was 26 weeks maximum and I don't know the top dollar amount but it is based on wages and total income for covered period. Now you can get 39 weeks and a maximum of $600 a week from this federal relief program. If you made $400 per week at the job you lost you will not get $600 per week to replace lost wages. The unemployed will probably get less than half of that.

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They still drew 8 million (approximately) more votes than Trump did.  They won.  Trump lost


But there is plenty of evidence that 8 million more people did not vote. More than likely 10 million less people voted for Biden than Trump!

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McCann wasn't a loser for getting captured, if not for his father he wouldn't have even been in a jet to get shot down after his fatal screw up on the USS Forrestal!


Yet that was how Trump described him.  Are you suggesting that Trump was wrong?


Trump was reacting to unprovoked attacks by McCain and in hindsight he probably would have preferred a different response. President Trump has always been a threat to the Oligarchy and McCain was part of it. It is a closed club and neither he nor us is part of it! McCain always was an unprincipled swamp creature!

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Amazing how you describe your fellow Americans.  Makes me wonder why you are an American if you hold all your fellow citizens in such contempt.


Just the ones on the Left, the fat, lazy crybabies who tell us other people keep them down because they are______. (Insert butthurt group of the day here.) If they can just take enough from people more successful than them the world will be a fairer place or at least they think so. They seem to think it would be good for others to not do anything they haven't approved of.
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Reply #156 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 8:49am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 5th, 2020 at 12:52am:
Just the ones on the Left, the fat, lazy crybabies who tell us other people keep them down because they are______. (Insert butthurt group of the day here.) If they can just take enough from people more successful than them the world will be a fairer place or at least they think so. They seem to think it would be good for others to not do anything they haven't approved of.


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Reply #157 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 8:59am
 
The Australian Political 'People' are more Alpha than the chaotic and undisciplined American Beta People of Politics who are always divisive and violent.
The American Political 'Leaders' are Alpha compared to the Beta 'servant' positions of Governor-Generals and Prime Ministers of Australia.

We the Common People of the Common Wealth are Politically disciplined and the true 'power' behind Politics here.
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Reply #158 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 5th, 2020 at 12:52am:
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I have plenty of choices, Mort.  Just as many as you, except I can't own a semi-automatic longarm or a pump-action shotgun.  Do I need them?  No. Do I want them?  No.  I had plenty of pleasure with them and many fully automatic weapons when I was in the Army.  I worked those childish fantasies out of my system.  Ooops, I mentioned guns, didn't I? Naughty me.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me


I doubt your society would be less safe without those restrictions, however it does tell the population who is in charge.


Tell that to the victims of Port Arthur, Queen Street, Hoddle Street and the Westfield Mall massacres, Mort.  Australia has not suffered a similar massacre since the Uniform Firearms Legislation was introduced after Port Arthur.  Australia is a safer place as a consequence.  Can you say that for the victims of Sandy Hook, Las Vagas, etc.?  I doubt it.  Time you thought about your fellow loons who have unbridled access to firearms.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Of course our State pays unemployment, you have to have worked first to qualify for it.

And how long does it last and and at what level is it?


Pre-covid it was 26 weeks maximum and I don't know the top dollar amount but it is based on wages and total income for covered period. Now you can get 39 weeks and a maximum of $600 a week from this federal relief program. If you made $400 per week at the job you lost you will not get $600 per week to replace lost wages. The unemployed will probably get less than half of that.


Downunder, it is offered as a right.  You don't work, you receive unemployment benefits.  There is no time limits.  It is only a fraction of a wage but it still happens.

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They still drew 8 million (approximately) more votes than Trump did.  They won.  Trump lost


But there is plenty of evidence that 8 million more people did not vote. More than likely 10 million less people voted for Biden than Trump!


Your bleating gets you no where, Mort.  Today, California declared that Biden had won.  Therefore Biden has sufficient electoral college votes to become el Presidente.  Trump lost.  No one is supporting his claims of fraud.  Funny that, hey?

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McCann wasn't a loser for getting captured, if not for his father he wouldn't have even been in a jet to get shot down after his fatal screw up on the USS Forrestal!


Yet that was how Trump described him.  Are you suggesting that Trump was wrong?


Trump was reacting to unprovoked attacks by McCain and in hindsight he probably would have preferred a different response. President Trump has always been a threat to the Oligarchy and McCain was part of it. It is a closed club and neither he nor us is part of it! McCain always was an unprincipled swamp creature! [/quote]

Doesn't matter.  That is what you (and he) might claim but as far as I am concerned you do not denigrate his service.  He served your country and was captured and tortured.  He deserves respect because of that.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Amazing how you describe your fellow Americans.  Makes me wonder why you are an American if you hold all your fellow citizens in such contempt.


Just the ones on the Left, the fat, lazy crybabies who tell us other people keep them down because they are______. (Insert butthurt group of the day here.) If they can just take enough from people more successful than them the world will be a fairer place or at least they think so. They seem to think it would be good for others to not do anything they haven't approved of.


No wonder you are held in contempt.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #159 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 11:46pm
 
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Tell that to the victims of Port Arthur, Queen Street, Hoddle Street and the Westfield Mall massacres, Mort.  Australia has not suffered a similar massacre since the Uniform Firearms Legislation was introduced after Port Arthur.  Australia is a safer place as a consequence.  Can you say that for the victims of Sandy Hook, Las Vagas, etc.?  I doubt it.  Time you thought about your fellow loons who have unbridled access to firearms.


The Media makes these people, the attention they receive encourages more of the same. Since the Media has been so obsessed with Wuhan and removing Trump there wasn't room for coverage of a mass shooter. No fame, no atrocities!

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Downunder, it is offered as a right.  You don't work, you receive unemployment benefits.  There is no time limits.  It is only a fraction of a wage but it still happens.


The government can't give anyone anything it didn't first take from someone else.

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Your bleating gets you no where, Mort.  Today, California declared that Biden had won.


California declared Biden the winner election night. That State was never in doubt. All the swing States had to stop the vote counting to add boxes of enough ballots to change the winner. State after State has witnesses to the fraud and Judges are too dishonest or too afraid to act. At least Trump has shown the Media for the Lying bias wing of the Left it is.

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Doesn't matter.  That is what you (and he) might claim but as far as I am concerned you do not denigrate his service.  He served your country and was captured and tortured.  He deserves respect because of that.


I think we have already given McCain more attention than he deserves. He doesn't get a pass for the rest of his life because he was a POW, as an individual he was no one to admire.

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No wonder you are held in contempt.


I haven't seen any contempt, I don't live a lavish lifestyle. I rarely even encounter Liberals. When I do I treat them kindly like I would any mentally handicapped person.
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Reply #160 - Dec 6th, 2020 at 12:03am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 5th, 2020 at 11:46pm:
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Tell that to the victims of Port Arthur, Queen Street, Hoddle Street and the Westfield Mall massacres, Mort.  Australia has not suffered a similar massacre since the Uniform Firearms Legislation was introduced after Port Arthur.  Australia is a safer place as a consequence.  Can you say that for the victims of Sandy Hook, Las Vagas, etc.?  I doubt it.  Time you thought about your fellow loons who have unbridled access to firearms.


The Media makes these people, the attention they receive encourages more of the same. Since the Media has been so obsessed with Wuhan and removing Trump there wasn't room for coverage of a mass shooter. No fame, no atrocities!

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Downunder, it is offered as a right.  You don't work, you receive unemployment benefits.  There is no time limits.  It is only a fraction of a wage but it still happens.


The government can't give anyone anything it didn't first take from someone else.

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Your bleating gets you no where, Mort.  Today, California declared that Biden had won.


California declared Biden the winner election night. That State was never in doubt. All the swing States had to stop the vote counting to add boxes of enough ballots to change the winner. State after State has witnesses to the fraud and Judges are too dishonest or too afraid to act. At least Trump has shown the Media for the Lying bias wing of the Left it is.

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Doesn't matter.  That is what you (and he) might claim but as far as I am concerned you do not denigrate his service.  He served your country and was captured and tortured.  He deserves respect because of that.


I think we have already given McCain more attention than he deserves. He doesn't get a pass for the rest of his life because he was a POW, as an individual he was no one to admire.

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No wonder you are held in contempt.


I haven't seen any contempt, I don't live a lavish lifestyle. I rarely even encounter Liberals. When I do I treat them kindly like I would any mentally handicapped person.


Shuddup Morty - nobody really wants to "take away all your guns" - that is a narrative put out to scare people.

As for McCain, well, Trump's attack on a genuine hero cost the GOP a Senate seat ...
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Reply #161 - Dec 6th, 2020 at 1:09am
 
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Shuddup Morty - nobody really wants to "take away all your guns" - that is a narrative put out to scare people.

As for McCain, well, Trump's attack on a genuine hero cost the GOP a Senate seat ...


Butt out worm!

No one is taking any of my guns, they were all lost in an unfortunate boating accident. The biden assault on American Rights is clearly spelled out on their website.

Arizona voted for an Astronaut over someone who wasn't. It just proves how shallow a majority of their voters are!
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Reply #162 - Dec 6th, 2020 at 2:28am
 
No wonder you are held in contempt.


I haven't seen any contempt, I don't live a lavish lifestyle. I rarely even encounter Liberals. When I do I treat them kindly like I would any mentally handicapped person.

LOL!
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Reply #163 - Dec 6th, 2020 at 3:32pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 5th, 2020 at 11:46pm:
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Tell that to the victims of Port Arthur, Queen Street, Hoddle Street and the Westfield Mall massacres, Mort.  Australia has not suffered a similar massacre since the Uniform Firearms Legislation was introduced after Port Arthur.  Australia is a safer place as a consequence.  Can you say that for the victims of Sandy Hook, Las Vagas, etc.?  I doubt it.  Time you thought about your fellow loons who have unbridled access to firearms.


The Media makes these people, the attention they receive encourages more of the same. Since the Media has been so obsessed with Wuhan and removing Trump there wasn't room for coverage of a mass shooter. No fame, no atrocities!


You mean the attention span of the media and the public is so short?  How long has it been since a massacre has occured, Mort?  A day? A week? A month?  Who knows?  It is your society, it is what produces these people these "free-dumb" loving people who kill their fellow Americans with gay abandon...   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

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Downunder, it is offered as a right.  You don't work, you receive unemployment benefits.  There is no time limits.  It is only a fraction of a wage but it still happens.


The government can't give anyone anything it didn't first take from someone else.


So then, there should be no unemployment benefits for anyone, Mort?  People should just starve if they lose their jobs?  How nice.  How kind.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Your bleating gets you no where, Mort.  Today, California declared that Biden had won.


California declared Biden the winner election night. That State was never in doubt. All the swing States had to stop the vote counting to add boxes of enough ballots to change the winner. State after State has witnesses to the fraud and Judges are too dishonest or too afraid to act. At least Trump has shown the Media for the Lying bias wing of the Left it is.


It needed an official declaration.  California finally supplied one after they had counted and recounted the votes.  Best to be sure, hey?  Count all the votes, hey?  You know the votes for Biden as well as for Trump.  How many votes did ex-el Presidente' Trump receive?  Fewer than Biden.  Funny that, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Doesn't matter.  That is what you (and he) might claim but as far as I am concerned you do not denigrate his service.  He served your country and was captured and tortured.  He deserves respect because of that.


I think we have already given McCain more attention than he deserves. He doesn't get a pass for the rest of his life because he was a POW, as an individual he was no one to admire.


McCain stood for the Senate and won.  He was a Republican but he had honour.  Far more than Trump ever could.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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No wonder you are held in contempt.


I haven't seen any contempt, I don't live a lavish lifestyle. I rarely even encounter Liberals. When I do I treat them kindly like I would any mentally handicapped person.


"Liberal" funny how Americans have turned a word into an insult.  Liberals used to be respected in the UK.  They believed in financial responsibility.  The word changed to one which denoted someone who was socially well, Liberal in their attitudes.  Today, Americans use it as an insult because well, most Americans are stuck-in-the-mud conservatives.  Downunder, "Liberal" means a supporter or member of the Liberal Party - our conservative party.  A small "l" liberal is usually a progressive, a supporter or member of the Labor Party.  I am a small "l" liberal.  I am proud of my liberal ideals.  I don't believe conservatives are worth an ounce of pooh.   They hold society back and they freeze it in aspic.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #164 - Dec 7th, 2020 at 12:22am
 
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You mean the attention span of the media and the public is so short?  How long has it been since a massacre has occured, Mort?  A day? A week? A month?  Who knows?  It is your society, it is what produces these people these "free-dumb" loving people who kill their fellow Americans with gay abandon...


I would suppose it depends on how you define a mass shooter. No one has run around shooting strangers indiscriminately for quite a while. Inner city murders are up because the individuals who wear Police uniforms are reluctant to respond, they have no support from their Department or City. They could go to work in the morning and end up in jail by the end of their shift. Defunding the Police is a really stupid idea and a tragedy in practice.

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So then, there should be no unemployment benefits for anyone, Mort?  People should just starve if they lose their jobs?


Unemployment benefits are based on something, not given out because able bodied people would rather not work. You have to put something in to get something out! The fund comes from insurance policys paid by employers, if you didn't have an employer to file a claim on you are not covered.

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It needed an official declaration.  California finally supplied one after they had counted and recounted the votes.  Best to be sure, hey?  Count all the votes, hey?  You know the votes for Biden as well as for Trump.  How many votes did ex-el Presidente' Trump receive?  Fewer than Biden.


Did California have a recount? I don't know why they bothered to vote the first time, just assign the electoral votes to the Democrats in perpetuity. I expected them to officially call it for Biden before sunup the next morning.

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McCain stood for the Senate and won.  He was a Republican but he had honour.


McCain was a RINO who was the deciding vote in favor of Obamacare. He let his hatred of Trump decide we continue to have higher deductibles and monthly premium payments. He said after the 2008 election he should have chosen his friend Joe Liberman as his running mate rather than Sarah Palin. I don't know why since he didn't appear to want to win against Obama.

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"Liberal" funny how Americans have turned a word into an insulte.  Liberals used to be respected in the UK.  They believed in financial responsibility.  The word changed to one which denoted someone who was socially well, Liberal in their attitudes.  Today, Americans use it as an insult because well, most Americans are stuck-in-the-mud conservatives.  Downunder, "Liberal" means a supporter or member of the Liberal Party - our conservative party.  A small "l" liberal is usually a progressive, a supporter or member of the Labor Party.  I am a small "l" liberal.  I am proud of my liberal ideals.  I don't believe conservatives are worth an ouce of pooh.   They hold society back and they freeze it in aspic.


You want government to do too much, I want it to do much less. Government should protect our border, the only President trying to do that has been persecuted for the last four years. The government should support sound money but all we have are fiat dollars. It should respect our privacy but instead spys on us at will. We should all be left alone to do anything we please as long as it doesn't interfere with the Rights of others, they are too controlling for that. I agree with the quotes of Ayn Rand more than Ronald Reagan and not at all with quotes from the Left. When I am sure all future presidential elections are pre-decided I will vote libertarian. I voted for Ross Perot against "read my lips" Bush and considered voting for Gary Johnson against Obama and Romney. The Libertarians are the Liberals of old, the Republicans are the Democrats of old without the racism. The Democrats are the Elite and their greedy followers. You start with your own values and vote for the candidates who most represent them, there are no perfect candidates.

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