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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: ⮞ Americans Exercise Their 2A Right to Firearms ⮜ Reply #15 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 2:37am Happens every time a Democrat wins the White House Panther. And nothing changes. What’s the point of bringing up guns when the person you didn’t vote for wins? Other than to invoke fear mongering?
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Reply #16 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 2:46am

I think a few Republican sub-branches will try to 'retalliate' much like the Media/Lefties/BLM did for the Democrats - who tried to antagonise the Republicans/Right into something like an old cliche Civil War - with their tearing down of old Statues.

But most Republicans know its better just to sit back and watch the Media/Left/BLM & their Democratic puppets - self destruct and FAIL at running the USA at an International Level.

Putin & Jinping are laughing Grin

They now have to put up with a Party that is based on Hillary, Pelosi and now Harris - with Biden their 'Tool' male who just smiles for the camera and says really nice Media things like Obama did... and hold his wife's hand for the Women's Weekly magazines.

No. I don't think the majority of Republicans will 'lower' themselves to behave like the Left/Media/BLM & Democrats have.

At the most, the Republicans will just say "Ok 'wife' - clean the home up - because it's your Medical Industry that FAILED, not Trump or the Republicans"

Enjoy Wink

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Reply #17 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:02am

Raven wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 2:37am:

Happens every time a Democrat wins the White House Panther.

And nothing changes.

What’s the point of bringing up guns when the person you didn’t vote for wins? Other than to invoke fear mongering?

"When the People fear the government there is Tyranny;
when the government fears the People there is Liberty."

Plain & Simple..........Specifically why the American Founding Fathers inserted the Second Amendment........the Second Directive to the federal government....The Peoples Ultimatum......into the US Constitution. It wasn't just so Americans could hunt deer, or shoot at clay pigeons, or win medals at the Olympics......No, it was to take up those arms & fight off, destroy, & replace an oppressive, tyrannical government, a government who has decided not to respect the Rights & Liberties of FREE AMERICANS.........for which the US Constitution was written........written By the People For the People!!!!

The United States Constitution.......the People's Document!

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Reply #18 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:14am

Panther wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:02am:

Raven wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 2:37am:

Happens every time a Democrat wins the White House Panther.

And nothing changes.

What’s the point of bringing up guns when the person you didn’t vote for wins? Other than to invoke fear mongering?

"When the People fear the government there is Tyranny;
when the government fears the People there is Liberty."

Plain & Simple..........Specifically why the American Founding Fathers inserted the Second Amendment........the Second Directive to the federal government....The Peoples Ultimatum......into the US Constitution. It wasn't just so Americans could hunt deer, or shoot at clay pigeons, or win medals at the Olympics......No, it was to take up those arms & fight off, destroy, & replace an oppressive, tyrannical government, a government who has decided not to respect the Rights & Liberties of FREE AMERICANS.........for which the US Constitution was written........written By the People For the People!!!!

The United States Constitution.......the People's Document!

Currently the Media has been ruling your Politics for a very long time.
Oh, except that small 'glitch' called Trump who came in with nothing to lose and everything to gain in kicking the Media Hornet's Nest.

One day both Republican and Democrat will one day put Politics before 'Entertainment' Media. At the moment with the Democrats its hard to say who is the Politician and who is the 'Celebrity'?? Huh

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Reply #19 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:18am

And remember, the Media serves Europe, Asia, Africa & Oceania.

...not Namerica, Samerica, Middle-East and here in Sahul (Oz).

How's it feel to be 'Governed' by a foreign entity?

Only the 'Women' give any professional style to the Media and Entertainment Industry in the USA - while the males self-destruct with scandal, offences, drugs, violence, suicide, drowning in one's own vomit, sex addiction.

...much like the Men who play Sport in Australia. Thankfully the Women now show us a more 'Professional' side of Sport.

Starting to get the 'big picture'? Huh

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 20955 A cat with a view	Re: ⮞ Americans Exercise Their 2A Right to Firearms ⮜ Reply #20 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:22am Mortdooley wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 12:08am: The real cure for "gun violence" is not gun laws, it is a return to morals. The answer is simple, the implementation is all but impossible! "And all the people shall say, Amen." !!!
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Reply #21 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:59am

Yadda wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 1:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 12:09pm:

I can't wait to see how the Democrats deal with the Republican Protests, Marches and a more disciplined firepower than the hapless opportunism of the Democrat/Media supporters and their rioting, looting and undisciplined chaos.

If the Democrats get the House, the Senate, and the WH, then the Democrats will seek to deal with Republican opposition to the Democrats radical plans to change American society,
by moving to 'change' the U.S. Constitution, is my guess.

They'll justify their move, to [try to] change the U.S. Constitution by arguing that the U.S. Constitution is 'an archaic document' which needs wholesale reform and rewriting.

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by arguing that the U.S. Constitution is 'an archaic document' which needs wholesale reform and rewriting.

Arguing that would be 100% correct however the odds against the Democrats doing that would be 1 million to one, maybe 100 Million.

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Reply #23 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 12:43pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 12:08am:

The real cure for "gun violence" is not gun laws, it is a return to morals.

The answer is simple, the implementation is all but impossible!

"And all the people shall say, Amen." !!!

America: One Nation under God.
...until the Media took over and introduced us to the perverted, sex addicted (quote: Rachel Welsh), Porn Industry, sleaze, hedonism, Party-druggin, etc, etc, etc
- hence the amphetamines, counterfeit money, looting, riots, burning other people's 'businesses' down (Because Trump was a Business man by style), etc, etc.

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Reply #24 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 2:25pm

I am always amused by the way the American gun ownership advocates quote their constitutions second amendment as 'proof' of their 'right' to bear arms....but they always seem to forget this bit of the same amendment.... "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Now, what army reserve unit are all these gun advocates members of? Because it seems that only such people have this 'right' , not every Tom, Dick and Harry off the street who wants a gun regardless of his competence or fitness to own one.

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Reply #25 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 4:25pm

Belgarion wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 2:25pm:

I am always amused by the way the American gun ownership advocates quote their constitutions second amendment as 'proof' of their 'right' to bear arms....but they always seem to forget this bit of the same amendment.... "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Now, what army reserve unit are all these gun advocates members of? Because it seems that only such people have this 'right' , not every Tom, Dick and Harry off the street who wants a gun regardless of his competence or fitness to own one.

What I, a Lifetime Member of the NRA, an American Gun owner, user, & Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms Advocate is constantly amused by, is what a foreigner thinks or when they attempt to apply their 'personal opinions' about my Right to keep & bear arms.

Who actually gives a flying Royal Rat Mother's Snatch about your interpretations, personal opinions, & fantasies of what my American Constitution actual says & means?!

I can assure you, I don't.......

The American Constitution is the People's Document......the American People's Document......& we Americans care not what the World thinks of it, nor what the World thinks about any of it's contents.

I have gone as far as attempting to enlighten your lot on America's Supreme Law of the Land, but in the end, the United States Supreme Court is the sole arbiter when it comes to interpreting the Second Amendment's meaning, & regardless of what ANYONE, be they foreign or domestic, says......the United States Supreme Court's decisions & findings are absolutely final & not subject to any appeal.

That all said, I will respect your right to say what you do.....as you are entitled to your own "personal opinions"......

Now, if you wish to know what the Second Amendment means in U.S. Law, & who it applies to, I suggest you read the United States Supreme Court's decision regarding DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ET AL. v. HELLER No. 07–290... Argued March 18, 2008—Decided June 26, 2008 for starters.........

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Also the follow-up SCOTUS Decision MCDONALD ET AL. v. CITY OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, ET AL. No. 08–1521. Argued March 2, 2010—Decided June 28, 2010

........... https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1521.pdf

Any other "Personal Opinions", be they yours or others of your lot, are totally meaningless when defining America's Constitution regarding the Second Amendment...........period.

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Reply #26 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 5:13pm

One of the problems with a politically corrupt supreme court is that political decisions like this cannot be trusted.

The wording of the second amendment is crystal clear and the subversion of the words used bent in a unique manner to create a meaning different to how it was interpreted by using the words in a literal manner for the previous 200 plus years isn't easy to swallow or credible at all.

There was never the intention for the second amendment to be used to protect the right to murder children in schools or that gun ownership could not be sensibly controlled to minimise the risk to the community.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 20955 A cat with a view	Re: ⮞ Americans Exercise Their 2A Right to Firearms ⮜ Reply #28 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 5:22pm Panther, Here, is your argument..... Penn & Teller on the 2nd Amendment 01 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNsd3pztmfk
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Reply #29 - Nov 14^th, 2020 at 5:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 5:13pm:

One of the problems with a politically corrupt supreme court is that political decisions like this cannot be trusted.

The wording of the second amendment is crystal clear and the subversion of the words used bent in a unique manner to create a meaning different to how it was interpreted by using the words in a literal manner for the previous 200 plus years isn't easy to swallow or credible at all.

There was never the intention for the second amendment to be used to protect the right to murder children in schools or that gun ownership could not be sensibly controlled to minimise the risk to the community.

A Fact Any Law Abiding Gun Owning American Can Educate You On:

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