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Reply #60 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 6:19pm:
Nice to Brian celebrating the beheading of Samuel Paty with even more vapid spineless apologising for Islam.


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Reply #61 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


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Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here
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Reply #62 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


White flag accepted


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here


Many Islamists develop their views WRT to Islamism as they grow older and enter adolescence.  The often come under the sway of Imams who hold, shall we say, "peculiar" views WRT to Islam and how Muslims should interact with non-believers.  Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.  However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.   Then you have the group which sounds off bit never implements their beliefs.

I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.
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Reply #63 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


White flag accepted


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here


Many Islamists develop their views WRT to Islamism as they grow older and enter adolescence.  The often come under the sway of Imams who hold, shall we say, "peculiar" views WRT to Islam and how Muslims should interact with non-believers.  Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.  However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.   Then you have the group which sounds off bit never implements their beliefs.

I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.


Served with them? What do you pull pints wth them at the Uni bar?
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Reply #64 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:20pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


White flag accepted


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here


Many Islamists develop their views WRT to Islamism as they grow older and enter adolescence.  The often come under the sway of Imams who hold, shall we say, "peculiar" views WRT to Islam and how Muslims should interact with non-believers.  Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.  However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.   Then you have the group which sounds off bit never implements their beliefs.

I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.


Served with them? What do you pull pints wth them at the Uni bar?


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Reply #65 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


White flag accepted


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here


Many Islamists develop their views WRT to Islamism as they grow older and enter adolescence.  The often come under the sway of Imams who hold, shall we say, "peculiar" views WRT to Islam and how Muslims should interact with non-believers.  Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.  However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.   Then you have the group which sounds off bit never implements their beliefs.

I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.


Served with them? What do you pull pints wth them at the Uni bar?


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I had a baggy green skin for 10 years.  What have you ever done for Australia except to be a troll?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #66 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 1:24am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.



That's right, good on ya



Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.



They don't have to worry about religion because it's the potential for violence that is the concern, and that's why the AFP is on the job, tracking those guys who might commit terrorist acts


Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.



We don't need Islamist terrorists in Australia. Why would you want them here?


Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.



Don't assume I haven't interacted with Muslims, I worked with several, I was taunted when they found out I sent a sizable donation to Pauline's lawyers to help with her appeal against her shaky conviction. Of course you know she was successful in that. It was a test for those johnny-come-lately muslims, rather than maintain good workplace relations, they became hostile, all over a donation to help a woman out, but then again, we know what muslim men think of women, especially Aussie women, the Skaf brothers will tell you all about them


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Reply #67 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 1:59pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


White flag accepted


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here


Many Islamists develop their views WRT to Islamism as they grow older and enter adolescence.  The often come under the sway of Imams who hold, shall we say, "peculiar" views WRT to Islam and how Muslims should interact with non-believers.  Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.  However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.   Then you have the group which sounds off bit never implements their beliefs.

I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.


Served with them? What do you pull pints wth them at the Uni bar?


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I had a baggy green skin for 10 years.  What have you ever done for Australia except to be a troll?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Fuel requisitioner for the Reserves? You're my hero.


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Oh, dearie, dearie me.  You have failed to answer the question asked of you, Hammer.  Stop sneaking out from under your bridge and face up to what is required of you like a man, not a Troll.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #68 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 2:08pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 1:24am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.


That's right, good on ya


Why?  Because I recognise a small problem exists especially for Islamophobes who make no effort to differentiate Muslims from Islamists?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.


They don't have to worry about religion because it's the potential for violence that is the concern, and that's why the AFP is on the job, tracking those guys who might commit terrorist acts


When they are informed who needs watching by the ordinary, everyday, moderate, law- abiding Muslims who you seek to lump in with the Islamists.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.


We don't need Islamist terrorists in Australia. Why would you want them here?


Where have I suggested I want them here?  Erecting a strawman argument?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.


Don't assume I haven't interacted with Muslims, I worked with several, I was taunted when they found out I sent a sizable donation to Pauline's lawyers to help with her appeal against her shaky conviction. Of course you know she was successful in that. It was a test for those johnny-come-lately muslims, rather than maintain good workplace relations, they became hostile, all over a donation to help a woman out, but then again, we know what muslim men think of women, especially Aussie women, the Skaf brothers will tell you all about them

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You mean you donated a few dollars to the what was required by a millionairess  to avoid the consequences of her actions?  A woman who was so stupid she didn't understand the consequences of signing a piece of paper that lied about how many members her political party actually had?   A woman who was so pig ignorant that she needed the word, "Xenophobic" explained to her on TV?  A woman who has ridden a wave of Xenophobia and Racism which she managed to make it back into the Senate after not campaigning in several elections and pocketing the money the AEC gave to her?    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems you got done, Bias.  Funny that, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #69 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 4:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 2:08pm:
You mean you donated a few dollars to the what was required by a millionairess  to avoid the consequences of her actions?  A woman who was so stupid she didn't understand the consequences of signing a piece of paper that lied about how many members her political party actually had?   A woman who was so pig ignorant that she needed the word, "Xenophobic" explained to her on TV?  A woman who has ridden a wave of Xenophobia and Racism which she managed to make it back into the Senate after not campaigning in several elections and pocketing the money the AEC gave to her?    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems you got done, Bias.  Funny that, hey?



That response was predictable, just supposition and conjecture, and it means nothing coming from a hostile socialist as you are

You're no better than the hostile muslims I worked with
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Reply #70 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 4:44pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 4:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 2:08pm:
You mean you donated a few dollars to the what was required by a millionairess  to avoid the consequences of her actions?  A woman who was so stupid she didn't understand the consequences of signing a piece of paper that lied about how many members her political party actually had?   A woman who was so pig ignorant that she needed the word, "Xenophobic" explained to her on TV?  A woman who has ridden a wave of Xenophobia and Racism which she managed to make it back into the Senate after not campaigning in several elections and pocketing the money the AEC gave to her?    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems you got done, Bias.  Funny that, hey?


That response was predictable, just supposition and conjecture, and it means nothing coming from a hostile socialist as you are


Ah, so speaking the truth is something you don't like facing, Bias?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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I think Pauline started the hostility and you've just followed suit, Bias.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 5:56pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.



Some of the beheaders are on watch list but most aren't. So there is no 'baby', it's all bathwater.

Supporting the Mujahadeen IN Afghanistan because they are killing your enemy over their  is not the same as importing them here so they can kill us - who are just as much their enemy as our enemies were back then - infidels.


Adherence to Islam is incompatible with openness and freedoms. Samuel Paty would be alive today if it was compatible. So would countless other Western, African, Asian victims of Islamic barbarians who have been killed by Muslims  - yes, Muslims, not 'Islamists' - in 'defence' of Islam and Mohammed.

Just imagine what your reaction would be If Westerners defended their beliefs and values with the same conviction and intolerant fury and savagery as Muslims kill and terrorise non-Muslims in the name of defending their Islam.

But the West is not barbaric like Muslims. There would be NO Muslims in the West if Westerners behaved and reacted like Muslims. Yet you still blame the West and defend Muslim barbarity.  Muslims are not persecuted by anyone in the West. Disdain and criticism are not 'persecution'. Exaggerating like an eotionally incontinent Muslim doesn't make your charges of 'persecution' and 'Islamophobia' valid or credible.
BECAUSE there is no persecution and islamohobia is why nothing ever happens except more and more Muslim atrocities in the West.

Maybe it is time to make make Muslims accountable for what happens in their name. They facilitate Islamic terrorist - or is it you, Bbwian, white Western agitator for Islamic separatism??

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Reply #72 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 6:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 4:44pm:

Ah, so speaking the truth is something you don't like facing, [to OzPol poster]?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Here [below] we have Brian_Ross,     setting an example to other posters on OzPol, about the importance of truth and honesty.

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Reply #73 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 6:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.


Some of the beheaders are on watch list but most aren't. So there is no 'baby', it's all bathwater.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Typical blanket response, Soren.  Tsk, tsk.  I reckon all Immigrants should be expelled from Australia.  There is the gangway, off you go.  Remember, I grew here, you flew here, mate.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Supporting the Mujahadeen IN Afghanistan because they are killing your enemy over their  is not the same as importing them here so they can kill us - who are just as much their enemy as our enemies were back then - infidels.


Really?  And there I was always under the impression that the Mujahadeen were heroes.  Heroes that you supported, Soren.   BTW, the word is "there", not "their", your talking about a location, not a person.  I suppose that English isn't your native language, is it, mate.  Roll Eyes

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Adherence to Islam is incompatible with openness and freedoms. Samuel Paty would be alive today if it was compatible. So would countless other Western, African, Asian victims of Islamic barbarians who have been killed by Muslims  - yes, Muslims, not 'Islamists' - in 'defence' of Islam and Mohammed.


And yet it wasn't one of his students who murdered him, Soren.  It was one of your sort, a filthy Immigrant.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

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Just imagine what your reaction would be If Westerners defended their beliefs and values with the same conviction and intolerant fury and savagery as Muslims kill and terrorise non-Muslims in the name of defending their Islam.


They would be as ignorant and as foolish as Islamists are, Soren.  As ignorance and as foolish as Immigrants are about Australia's way of life.  You obviously need a massive transfusion of Australianness.   Roll Eyes

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But the West is not barbaric like Muslims. There would be NO Muslims in the West if Westerners behaved and reacted like Muslims. Yet you still blame the West and defend Muslim barbarity.  Muslims are not persecuted by anyone in the West. Disdain and criticism are not 'persecution'. Exaggerating like an eotionally incontinent Muslim doesn't make your charges of 'persecution' and 'Islamophobia' valid or credible.
BECAUSE there is no persecution and islamohobia is why nothing ever happens except more and more Muslim atrocities in the West.


What you do is persecution, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, remember you flew here, I grew here.  Time to think about that gangplank, hey?   Roll Eyes

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Maybe it is time to make make Muslims accountable for what happens in their name. They facilitate Islamic terrorist - or is it you, Bbwian, white Western agitator for Islamic separatism??


Some Muslims do.  Most Muslims don't.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Samuel Paty beheading, in the wake of.....
Reply #74 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 7:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 3:47pm:
we have excellent counter-terrorism efforts, they spend their time on the Islamists who might cause problems


White flag accepted


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well at least you're willing to admit there's Islamists who might cause problems, so that's a good start - but why do we need Islamists in Australia who might cause problems ?, that's the point we're making, and also why the police need to be searching for them day in day out. It would be better if those potential trouble makers weren't here in the first place. With the experience that the Immigration Dept has, it shouldn't be to hard to weed them out before they even come here


Many Islamists develop their views WRT to Islamism as they grow older and enter adolescence.  The often come under the sway of Imams who hold, shall we say, "peculiar" views WRT to Islam and how Muslims should interact with non-believers.  Now, if Immigration asked the right questions and weeded out the Imams with those views then the threat from Islamists would decrease markedly.  However, as the Federal Government is not allowed to interfere with religion or religious beliefs, it becomes a whole lot harder.   Then you have the group which sounds off bit never implements their beliefs.

I have always said that Islamist Terrorists are a problem but we should not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Most Muslims are mature enough and intelligent enough to not want what the Islamists are peddling.  We should cultivate those people, rather than just damn them all as Jihadi Terrorists.   I remember 30 years ago, most right-wingers were happy to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Guess what the root word for Mujahideen is?  It is Jihad.  Funny that, hey?

Unlike Agatha and yourself, I have had considerable interaction with Muslims.  I have served with/studied with/worked with them.  They have been in the main, law-abiding, well behaved, moderate people.  I do not see the reason to persecute them for their religious beliefs.


Served with them? What do you pull pints wth them at the Uni bar?


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I had a baggy green skin for 10 years.  What have you ever done for Australia except to be a troll?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Fuel requisitioner for the Reserves? You're my hero.


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Oh, dearie, dearie me.  You have failed to answer the question asked of you, Hammer.  Stop sneaking out from under your bridge and face up to what is required of you like a man, not a Troll.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Stop hiding behind faux patriotism. Playing army games in the Duke of Edinburgh doesn't make you more Australian, champ.
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