according to the Koran,
according to Allah,
according to ISLAMIC teachers [in mosques],
and according to the followers of ISLAM.


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Quote:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/islamic-scholar-the-quran-has-raised-us-to-be...



Jews are horrible, horrible people....
according to the Koran,
according to Allah,
according to ISLAMIC teachers [in mosques],
and according to the followers of ISLAM.


QUESTION;
Why is it do you think, that Western governments and the Western MSM never [i.e. refuse to] acknowledge those very HATEFUL attributions, made towards the Jewish person [towards EVERY Jewish person],
attributions which are found in the Koran, and in the PRIMARY religious precepts of mainstream ISLAM, and which are wholly accepted by the majority of the followers of ISLAM who are living today, within Western nations ?



n.b.
IN CONTRAST;
The words of the bible, particularly as stated by king David [O.T.] in many of the Psalms, confirm that the Jewish people are 'a peculiar people' and are a people especially BLESSED, by the God of Israel.

And 'ZIONISTS' ?

Psalms 87:2
The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.


Psalms 129:5
Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.







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Psalms 105:6
O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.


Isaiah 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
9  Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away.
10  Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
11  Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish.


Isaiah 44:1
Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:


Isaiah 54:15
Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16  Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.







That, is a stark warning.

QUESTION;
In the world today, who is being blessed by the God of Israel, and who is being cursed by him ?

Any Western nation ?

Really ?



Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.


Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35  But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

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See, even he blames Islam.

islam is a very evil, primitive death cult.

islam is a muslim supremacy death cult.

islam preaches hatred against a lot of different people.

islam is cited as the cause and motivation of muslim terrorism, by muslims themselves.

The sick leftwing supports this evil primitive death cult.

The sick leftwing wants to force all people to bow down, accept and embrace islam, as being a part of our 21st century civilization.

The leftwing has been brainwashing our children from preschool to university, with their psychotic social engineering programme.

We are in a very precarious position at the moment.

The leftwing is very close to destroying the west from within, as the Marxist Leninist movement gains a foothold around the globe.

Unless the lunatic leftards suddenly decide to be honest about just how depraved islam actually is, it will be very bad in the future, for our kids / grandkids etc..

Yadda wrote on Oct 10^th, 2020 at 7:24pm:


That's a bit harsh Yadda!

Where do Jews send their kids with ADHD?
Concentration camp.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 1:56pm:


More Jews fled to Israel from Muslim countries than from the Nazis. The only real difference was that the Muslims were less successful with their final solution, though not for want of trying.

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 1:59pm:


Different periods of time, FD.   In 1940-45 there were numerous Jews saved by Muslims from the Holocaust.  Once Israel was established, Jews were expelled, not murdered and forced to migrate to Israel (or the USA).   Muslims don't want to kill all the Jews for religious reasons.  Their reasons are anti-Israel and it's policies towards the Palestinians and aren't designed to kill them rather to make Israel a true Multi-religious state, rather than a Jewish one.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

Islamic scholar: ‘The Quran has raised us to be the enemies of the Jews. They are the most evil of creatures.’ OCT 8, 2020

The muzzies don't really want to slaughter the Jews, the infallible qur'an has been *misinterpreted* *misunderstood*, cos islams' not like that.

O.K. right gotcha.

five six seven eight:

pigs are going to fly tomorrow

cows are gunna jump over the moon

dishes will run away with all the spoons

the sun will rise in the west

cos allah knows best

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 3:44pm:

Multireligious like Iran, Saudi, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc?

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muslim Waffen-SS 13th division
&
How Nazis courted the Islamic world during WWII

Tens of thousands of Muslims fought for the Nazis in World War Two.

&
Hitler & Islam

by 1938, the membership of Muslim Brotherhood topped 200,000.

During World War II, members of the Muslim Brotherhood spied for Hitler's Nazis in the Middle East and fought for Hitler as Nazi troops in two specially formed Muslim Waffen-SS Handschar Divisions

The Muslim Nazi troops of the Waffen-SS Handschar Divisions:

Due to their large number of volunteers, Handschar Divisions were the largest of Hitler's 38 Waffen-SS Divisions.

Now I know that a few muslims did help some Jewish people in world-war 2.

But somehow I still get the feeling that the islamic hatred for Jewish people far outweighs any love and respect for the Jews.

The facts still are that today the 21st century, islam is a gigantic threat to the Jewish people.   
 
Hatred and slaughter of the Jews is a core teaching in islam.

Why do the snivelling leftards continually try and downplay the evil islam represents to non muslims, Jews and Christians in particular?

Is it because they themselves have a deep abiding hatred of the Jews and Christians and see muslims - islam as their ally, in their quest to destroy the Judaeo - Christian based west?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:


Left wing autistic nutjobs like you are actually the most antisemitic lot at the moment.  Yes Bwian, SOME mozwums were just there to help Jews escape the Nazis, but how many? 5? 10? Muslims on the whole joined Hitler to wipe them off the face of the earth.

The autism is strong today, eh?

https://www.dw.com/en/how-nazis-courted-the-islamic-world-during-wwii/a-41358387

Gordon wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 5:39pm:


That's right, folks - Gordon is making fun of people with autism.

What does he do for an encore?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 8:22pm:


You know Brian, shooting down the utter shyte you post is about as sporting as shooting a dairy cow with a sniper rifle. Friken hell you're a tard.

As of 2018, only 8,500 Jews still live in Iran[67] and they constitute 0.01% of Iranian population

Arab residents in Israel increased to 1,617,000 people, about 21% of Israel's population. The Arab population in 2019 was estimated at 1,890,000 people, representing 20.95% of the country's population.

Exodus of Iran's Jews[1] refers to the emigration of Persian Jews from Iran in the 1950s and the later migration wave from the country during and after the Iranian Revolution of 1979, during which the community of 80,000 dropped to less than 20,000.[1] The migration of Persian Jews after the Iranian Revolution is mostly attributed to fear of religious persecution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Iran%27s_Jews

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 5:32pm:


Answer my questions and I might answer yours, Freediver.   

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 8:22pm:

Really? Do the Jews know?
Substantial. Interesting word. Why dont you show what that means in Iran?

There are more muslims in the knesset than there are Jews in Iran's islamic parliament (zero Jews). Zero is not a substantial number.

Bertie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:


As of 2018, only 8,500 Jews still live in Iran[67] and they constitute 0.01% of Iranian population

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2020 at 1:59pm:


If the 'final solution' was to get rid of jews from their respective lands, I'd say the muslims were far more successful than the nazis wouldn't you say FD?

Also, Hitler used gas chambers, while the muslims loaded them on planes. But I can see how the two might seem the same. Maybe they turned the air conditioning off on the planes?

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2020 at 1:04pm:


Yes Gandalf. Even Hitler could have learned from the Muslims about getting rid of Jews.

I think Hitler had more in common with Muhammad than modern Muslims. Even though he lost WWII he was far more successful than the several attempts by middle eastern countries to drive the Jews into the sea. And they both slaughtered Jews.

Do you agree with Brian that the Muslims were just trying to create a true multi religious society in Israel?

So much crapola about the how the muslims treat the Jews with love and respect.

The Noble Qur'an 5:51: "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliya' to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya', then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong­doers and unjust)."
&
The Dhimmi is the Arabic term that refers to its non-Islamic embracing population that has the ignominious dishonor of living in Islamic conquered lands. In a similar manner to the Jewish reference to a non-Jew as being a goy, so too the term dhimmi refers to non-Muslims. However unlike the Jewish term, goy, and much more important, the dhimmi is a distinctly subjugated second class non-citizen almost slave who is subjected to dictatorial deprivation of any legal and human rights since he is a non-Muslim permanent resident in a Muslim state.

Bbbuuuttt ge whiz while ever the wife and two daughters of allah are under the lote tree in paradise (qur'an 53: 11 - 20), never never never ever, will muslims want to rape torture and kill Jews.

Yeah right gotcha.

----- and a one two three four:

pigs are going to fly tomorrow

cows are gunna jump over the moon

dishes will run away with all the spoons

the sun will rise in the west

cos allah knows best [/quote]

What's the difference between a Jew and a pie? A pie doesn't winge when you stuff it in an oven.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2020 at 3:19pm:


Sure Gandalf. Comparisons between Islam and Nazism are always enlightening.

Well, the Jews are horrible, horrible people...

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:


Who Brian is eager to spinelessly apologise for.

To all you people putting Israel down -
hypothetical -
if you lived in the Middle East and
a war broke out between Israel & the Muslims -
whose side would you want to be on?

I certainly wouldn't want to fight for any Muslims.
I'd be there with Israel giving the Muslims some justice.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 12^th, 2020 at 9:53pm:



Traitor.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:


In which way are we loyal to the rogue state, Israel?

The Moslems are fighting Jewish and American terrorists. What's your point?

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 11:43am:


I suggested they were inferior to the Nazis in many ways Gandalf. It's hard to find a clearer demonstration of the vast chasm in basic competence that separates Muslim nations from those that have their poo together. The Nazis achieved their holocaust. The Muslims achieved a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards corners of the earth. They are however more successful at propaganda, despite the brilliance of Goebbels. You don't see the spineless apologists making excuses for the Nazis the way they do when given examples of ethnic cleansing of Jews by Muslims. Can you give us a tough titties, off with their heads?

Is that a fair comparison?

Bertie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 5:43pm:


They lost, or rather the majority of Jews lost all claims to ownership of their "ancestral lands" when they left them in 63 BCE.   They were ejected by the Romans.   When the remainder converted to Islam they became Islamic lands.

Israel, as defined in 1948 has a right to exist.  However, since then they have been expanding their borders and expelling the Palestinians.  It appears the Jews have learnt little from their experiences throughout history when they were expelled from various lands...   

Sweden: Muslim-dominated Malmö ‘was once a safe haven for Jews, but today only 200 remain and are being harassed’ OCT 11, 2020.

Jewish institutions are under attack. Children in Jewish kindergartens have to play behind bulletproof windows,” Neuding pointed out.

Well you know they are just *misinterpreting* and *misunderstanding* the verses in the qur'an which cause and motivate this type of degenerate behaviour, *islam just isn't like that*.

O.K. right gotcha.

and a five six seven eight.

pigs are going to fly tomorrow

cows are gunna jump over the moon

dishes will run away with all the spoons

the sun will rise in the west

cos allah knows best

The reality of Israeli expansion explained so simply, even Bobby can understand it.   

The reality of Israeli expansion, explain so simply that even Yadda could, if he opened his mind, understand.   

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 6:34pm:




Before the Nazis who killed more Jews?   The Christians of course.  How bloody inconvenient, hey, FD?

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 6:38pm:


Hitler happened when the Nazis came to power.  I distinctly disallowed him and his crazies.  Funny how you've forgotten how to read, FD.   

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 6:34pm:



The reality that a 'Palestinian nation' has NEVER EXISTED.

So simple that even Brian could understand, if he opened his mind.



Yadda wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 12:08am:








http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1392646116/0#0

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 6:42pm:


You disallowed the Nazis? How did you do that Bwian?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 8:43pm:


How did you disallow the Nazis Bwian? Is this some kind of hero fantasy where you win WWII by spinelessly apologising on internet forums, or a spelling mistake?

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 8:46pm:


You do understand English, don't you, FD?  If English is your second language that is OK as well.  Now, you do understand what the word "before" means, don't you?

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 9:42pm:




Obviously, English is your second language, FD.  Tsk, tsk, you don't understand the mean of the word, "before".  Run along.  Stop wasting our time.   

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2020 at 4:36pm:


This is the strawman you always resort to: confating competence with intent.

You clearly set out out to depict the evil intent of muslims as being on par with the nazis. When pulled up on this, you pretend its really about competence.

I also never said the muslim world was or is a beacon of democracy. Another strawman. There is, however something in between "as evil as the nazis" and "beacon of democracy". The muslim world in their treatment of jews clearly sits somewhere in this space.

So, you see, the only point I am making is that your obvious attempts to equate the evil intentions of the muslims with the intent of the nazis - is complete BS - when you look at actual history:

- the jews lived and prospered under the muslims for 1400 years, while the nazis set out to eliminate them from the very beginning
- the muslims when they did eventually seek to rid them from their lands, sent them on planes, while the nazis sent them into gas chambers.

No comparison. But please, regale us once again, as I know you will, with the tale about how Muhammad executed ~800 of them and tell us how that is the be-all and end-all of the entire ~1400 year history of jews living under Islam.

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So Muslim nations from the middle east did not try to destroy Israel, after helping to create it by expelling the few remaining Jews?

Or are you saying the Nazis accidentally exterminated Jews in their efforts to make the trains run on time?

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So you are once again responding to things I did not actually say? After accusing me of using strawmen in the same post? Do you ever get tired of this hypocrisy Gandalf?

freediver wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 12:03pm:


They tried to destroy a racist, apartheid political entity called Israel that was already in the process of ethnically cleansing Palestinians before any arab army arrived. That is not the same as committing genocide, like say rounding up people and throwing them in gas chambers. And no, that doesn't mean they wanted to create a multicultural, democratic paradise in its place.

And I'm pretty sure the jewish exodus of muslims lands mostly happened after the arab invasions.

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I am accusing you of equating muslims and nazis as morally the same (or worse) in their attitude towards jews. You do this Godwin's Law game all the time when the morality of muslims come up. Oh look, it was you who first brought up nazis in this very thread. Fancy that. If you actually think muslims are morally superior to nazis, here's your chance to set the record straight.

yes, thought not.

Bertie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 11:57am:


Well, considering it occurred just three years after the end of the second world war, you would think that the victims of that war would think twice about enacting policies similar to what the Nazis did.  The Jews went around to all the Palestinian houses and demanded that the Palestineans leave.  This meant 3/4 of a million Palestinians fled Palestine.  They carried out the same policies, plus others just as bad and more and more Palestinians heeded them.  They depopulated over 400 Palestinian villages.  They massacred the inhabitants of several them.  Hardly a "de-populated land" which is what the Zionists claimed.   The Zionists are hardly innocent.

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Different circumstances.  In neither Spain or Greece were the majority of the population Muslim.  The majority of the population in Palestine was originally Muslim.  So, you have a majority Christian population ruled by Muslims versus a majority Muslim population ruled by Jews.   See the difference?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 1:23pm:



I don't ever see Muslims kissing Jewish bums -
have you?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 1:26pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  That would explain the many Muslims who hid Jews from the Holocaust, right, Bobby?   

Bobby. wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 4:36pm:


Yes.  There are entire books devoted to their efforts.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 5:17pm:




I'm guessing there was 11 of them.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Not quite. Judea and Samaria were conquered by the Jews. Then the Romans conquered them. Then the Arabs conquered them. Then the Jews conquered them.

Why is the muslim conquest of the area any more valid than the jewish RE-conquest of it?  In any case, there are more jews there now than arabs.
All sorts of ethic  Germans were booted out from various parts of Europe at the same time. Do they have the right to return? Give east prussia back to germany? Give Cyprus to Turkey? 
Should we have regarded the Soviet conquest of eastern europe as immurable? Japan's conquest of china and korea?

Different circumstances - aren't ALL circumstances different? How is that an argument, 'different circumstances'?