Jest wrote on Oct 20
th, 2020 at 5:20pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 20
th, 2020 at 4:29pm:
The only 'delusion' present is the Union belief system that every 'worker' is an ignorant Prole in need of their help... at a cost Yankee Unionists prey upon the Prole Workers.
The Superior Race of pure Australian Workers don't need 'Unions'.
Superior Workers are 'offered' like a Music Contract some pretty good deals by employers. Saw one on Australian Story once.
Unions only work for the crap Workers who need em.
Mostly crap companies hire crap workers.
Its a terrible situation.
I mean - look at how great guns the Shearing Industry is in
with its Union and the type of workers the Shearing Industry has: Junkies and Alcoholics, etc.
I don't work jobs that need a Union. They're crap jobs.
And if there is crap in the job - it tends to provide great 'bonk' encounters with female staff.
Only crap jobs need a Union rep to take his slice as well out of your pay.
Nobody is saying that a worker is too stupid to protect his own interests. We're saying that workers are stronger and better resourced to protect their interests if they protect themselves collectively. Most employers have human resources sections to advise & negotiate for them or they contact the small business unions to advise them. Its foolish to think you can fight that on your own
Most employers have human resources sections to advise & negotiate for them
Gee it would be nice if that were all.
The last direct negotiation I was in I had to face alone:
Department manager, HR executive, Finance head, Assistant to the CEO, External finance advisor and a random manager.
The average employee has no chance.
The first question was how much pay cut will you accept. I won't go into the details but I was not an easy target.
Within 6 months my advantage was gone as they employed additional people and I was redundant.
The following 3 months I got a number of phone calls to ask how something worked or how to fix a problem, unfortunately I didn't remember very much.
Individual negotiation is stacked against the employee, It works well for the few at the top where management wants to throw money away.
The average employee has no chance, it is mostly this is what you get don't like it there is the door.