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Sep 25th, 2020 at 7:31pm
 
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He said he was glad our race was stolen; it made us really angry," Hayley said.


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Reply #1 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 7:52pm
 

Okay, I'll bite.

Why the "Lol" - what's the point of this thread?

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Reply #2 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 8:54pm
 
Jeez- Bro - I'd have no trouble passin' as a brudder dere.... I's way darker than she is... red hair, freckles and white skin = Indigenous now... Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

The words were alleged to be that the teacher 'agreed' with the policy of removal of endangered children... I assume the rest is something to do with deliberate refusal to behave and abide by rules... which is a sort of group thing for some social groups...

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Reply #3 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm
 
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm
 
I dunno - DNA can clearly say that you were descended from one guy thousands of years ago... seems to me a simple matter to say someone was descended from some Darkie...
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Reply #5 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.

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Reply #6 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:27pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
I dunno - DNA can clearly say that you were descended from one guy thousands of years ago... seems to me a simple matter to say someone was descended from some Darkie...


They cannot tell you whether that person who you were descended from whether he was tinted or bone white, Graps,    Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?
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Reply #9 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I have just explained, "race" is a social construct, Soren.  Are you dim or something?  Find it difficult to accept that "race" doesn't exist except in your imagination?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
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Reply #11 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
I dunno - DNA can clearly say that you were descended from one guy thousands of years ago... seems to me a simple matter to say someone was descended from some Darkie...


They cannot tell you whether that person who you were descended from whether he was tinted or bone white, Graps,    Roll Eyes



Indeed - but when you can compare that with records of parents etc......

The question is and will remain - at what point does a person become more of one thing than another, when all they have to do is choose NOT to be simply Australian - and yet claim that anything anyone says that points out any difference is a racist, but they are not?

Declaring Koonism as a racial aspect yourself makes you the racist - not anyone else.

Seems to me the teacher was pointing out that certain kinds of misbehaviour and lack of discipline were not acceptable, and because The Aggrieved Group were Koons - THEY called it racist to be told to behave properly..

Well - even Mothra Superior will tell you that she works in the areas of trying to get Indigenous kids to go to school and in working on family violence etc in Indigenous communities, where the rate of offending is vastly under-reported (so the mantra goes) - yet still says the incarceration rate for acts of violence is disproportionate in those communities.....

Go figure the inability of the current educated zealot to arrive at simple conclusions based on facts.... even facts they themselves present....
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:25am
 
My second eldest daughter looks like she could pass for a couple different races, being that she is multiracial. Part aboriginal, part Maori, half caucasian (my side). Having seen her recently, she could dye her hair blonde and look white (with her blue eyes). Or she could retain her natural hair and go the ethnic angle.

Meanwhile, we have this ranga who wants to virtue signal aboriginality by claiming to be one, just for the sympathy for her and to fit in with her friends. Did her great-great grandmother have a bounce on one of the settlers and then let her biracial daughter follow suit for the sake of societal convenience? It appears that Hayley is trying to reverse the trend and go where the money is for her own financial sake.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  [highlight]It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods.[/highlight] Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What a load of leftard bullshyte.

Seems your eyes are blind.

Always with the "white people" blame game for everything.

Not all empire belonged to white people.

History has shown us that you racist twat.
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Reply #14 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 4:42am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?



https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I have just explained, "race" is a social construct, Soren.  Are you dim or something?  Find it difficult to accept that "race" doesn't exist except in your imagination?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Oh yeah everythings a social construct to numpties who lean too far left Grin Grin like gender ey Bwyan?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 4:44am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
I dunno - DNA can clearly say that you were descended from one guy thousands of years ago... seems to me a simple matter to say someone was descended from some Darkie...


They cannot tell you whether that person who you were descended from whether he was tinted or bone white, Graps,    Roll Eyes



Indeed - but when you can compare that with records of parents etc......

The question is and will remain - at what point does a person become more of one thing than another, when all they have to do is choose NOT to be simply Australian - and yet claim that anything anyone says that points out any difference is a racist, but they are not?

Declaring Koonism as a racial aspect yourself makes you the racist - not anyone else.

Seems to me the teacher was pointing out that certain kinds of misbehaviour and lack of discipline were not acceptable, and because The Aggrieved Group were Koons - THEY called it racist to be told to behave properly..

Well - even Mothra Superior will tell you that she works in the areas of trying to get Indigenous kids to go to school and in working on family violence etc in Indigenous communities, where the rate of offending is vastly under-reported (so the mantra goes) - yet still says the incarceration rate for acts of violence is disproportionate in those communities.....

Go figure the inability of the current educated zealot to arrive at simple conclusions based on facts.... even facts they themselves present....


In one Graps .... hypocrisy is Bwyans strongest suit.
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Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 8:37am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 4:38am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  [highlight]It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods.[/highlight] Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What a load of leftard bullshyte.

Seems your eyes are blind.

Always with the "white people" blame game for everything.

Not all empire belonged to white people.

History has shown us that you racist twat.


What will be interesting is to watch Brian do a total reversal on everything he has said here when he discovers that it's the absolute opposite of what the Left is now saying about race and racism. According to the bible of critical race theory ("White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo) race is defiantly not a social construct but something that is fundamental to our makeup as human beings and to suggest otherwise is to be racist.Its also racist to say there is no such thing as race and its especially racist to say that you dont see race. AND that Brat in the OP pretending that she's black or a POC is reviled by black people for her racism, primarily because she's trying to get herself a free ride on their victim train.

The latest orthodoxy issued by the Left to the faithful is that if you are white you are racist and there is nothing you can do about it. You can try to change it but you will never succeed because white people (not black people but white people) are inherently racist and are incapable of overcoming it. Also critical race theory took it upon itself to invent a new definition of racism so that now it is not possible for black people or POCs to be racist. Only white people can be racist. So if a black person says "Its a pity that Corona virus is not killing white people fast enough". Thats not racist. But of course if a white person said that about Black people then its highly racist.   

You have to ask yourself what impressionable moron would anyone have to be (especially a white person) to accept this BS as true and correct. One really has to be in brainwashed territory to advocate this tripe without being embarrassed.
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Reply #17 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 9:04am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 4:44am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
I dunno - DNA can clearly say that you were descended from one guy thousands of years ago... seems to me a simple matter to say someone was descended from some Darkie...


They cannot tell you whether that person who you were descended from whether he was tinted or bone white, Graps,    Roll Eyes



Indeed - but when you can compare that with records of parents etc......

The question is and will remain - at what point does a person become more of one thing than another, when all they have to do is choose NOT to be simply Australian - and yet claim that anything anyone says that points out any difference is a racist, but they are not?

Declaring Koonism as a racial aspect yourself makes you the racist - not anyone else.

Seems to me the teacher was pointing out that certain kinds of misbehaviour and lack of discipline were not acceptable, and because The Aggrieved Group were Koons - THEY called it racist to be told to behave properly..

Well - even Mothra Superior will tell you that she works in the areas of trying to get Indigenous kids to go to school and in working on family violence etc in Indigenous communities, where the rate of offending is vastly under-reported (so the mantra goes) - yet still says the incarceration rate for acts of violence is disproportionate in those communities.....

Go figure the inability of the current educated zealot to arrive at simple conclusions based on facts.... even facts they themselves present....


In one Graps .... hypocrisy is Bwyans strongest suit.



I prefer to consider it the fundamental inability of the ideologically driven to see the reality that what they seek so desperately to discuss as a one way issue is always a many-wayed issue.  I've mentioned Mothra Superior and the work in getting kids to go to school and to help with violence in 'certain' communities - and yet the simultaneous ability to say that the incarceration rate is way out of proportion - not because of higher offending rates or anything (in which most is allegedly unreported by up to 90%!) - but because of some ephemeral concept of 'racism' (even when the local authorities don't even go to the village/ghetto unless called).......

Amazing stuff - but this is what you are forced to deal with when attempting to discuss anything with the ideologically possessed.

They simply will not address facts even those assembled by themselves and their own organisations.

But woe betide the teacher who might suggest that because your parents, uncles, cousins, and so forth are suffering in society because they did not want to go to school or behave there - his/her arse is grass!  A classic case of the other crabs in the boiling pot dragging back down any who reach the lip and try to pull themselves out.

Even Len Waters, Aboriginal fighter pilot in WW II, who disgracefully was refused a civilian pilot's licence post-war so he could earn an honest living, was sometimes considered too 'flash' by his own group - as in acting too good to be an Aboriginal and 'up himself' ...   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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HBrian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?



https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I have just explained, "race" is a social construct, Soren.  Are you dim or something?  Find it difficult to accept that "race" doesn't exist except in your imagination?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So what do you tick on the census questionnaire? 'None of the above'?

All sorts of other species have different breeds - horses, cats, dogs. The difference between the breeds can be subtle but it is mostly very obvious. They are not just physical. Temperament, intelligence, friendliness and trainability also differ between breeds as well as individuals. And so with humans. It is not a social construct, nor a sin, to notice the difference  between the chineese, africans, aborigines and europeans.
Race is a word for breed, descent. If there was no such thing as race then ghere would be no BLM and people wouldn't  have lost their jobs by saying what you are: all lives matter because there is no such thing as blacks, whites, etc.



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Reply #19 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:13am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01am:
HBrian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I have just explained, "race" is a social construct, Soren.  Are you dim or something?  Find it difficult to accept that "race" doesn't exist except in your imagination?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So what do you tick on the census questionnaire? 'None if the above'?

All sorts of other species have different breeds - horses, cats, dogs. The difference between the breeds can be subtle but it is mostly very obvious. They are not just physical. Temperament, intelligence, friendliness and trainability also differ between breeds as well as individuals. And so with humans. It is not a social construct, nor a sin, to notice the difference  between the chineese, africans, aborigines and europeans.
Race is a word for breed, descent. If there was no such thing as race then ghere would be no BLM and people wouldn't  have lost their jobs by saying what you are: all lives matter because there is no such thing as blacks, whites, etc.





Yes ... so one would ask why on all the govt forms & census forms do they ask if you identify as Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander or Chinese/Asian, Middle Eastern or other?

Every racial ethnicity except "white". Roll Eyes

Race is a social construct  Grin Grin Grin

If it was there would be no need for any race specific GOVT programs .....

No Affirmative Action or expectations of reparations.

there should be no NITV or SBS

no Indigenous rounds in sports etc etc

We're all in this together  Grin

Except when we're not & it doesn't suit. Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:26am
 
How WUDE, doncha know race is a state of mind.
I remember the first white black feller that told us all that was that Tassie bloke back in the 70's.
Bugger me dead if he wasn't right though, I mean if yer can be a sheila, and still have all yer wedding tackle in full working order, like that Caitlyn Jenner bloke, then why can't ya be a white black?
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mozzaok wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:26am:
How WUDE, doncha know race is a state of mind.
I remember the first white black feller that told us all that was that Tassie bloke back in the 70's.
Bugger me dead if he wasn't right though, I mean if yer can be a sheila, and still have all yer wedding tackle in full working order, like that Caitlyn Jenner bloke, then why can't ya be a white black?
If I makes sense to you, then it makes sense to me.


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Reply #22 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:52am
 
You don't need to be Black to be 'Culturally' Aboriginal as if joining Aboriginal Inc.Com etc. Claiming 'racial' ties by none or just 1% is a bit of a far stretch.

Many 'blacks' in Europe consider themselves as 'European' or British. Those that, after many generations in other nations of other regions of the world, still consider themselves as 'African' are Racists in that they insinuate that Africa is for Black People ONLY.

These days - 'anyone' can be Aboriginal. Like many Australians still act 'American' or 'British', etc.
You can become an 'Ewok' and now part of that Tribe too.  Cheesy Warm Fuzzies all round.

Those 'outsiders' who now link themselves to the Aboriginal National Movement have every right like someone moving to another country to live like the masses of British and later others to here.

In a way, if Britain removed the Union Jack off the Australian Flag and relinquished all 'cultural' ties to Australia  to 'peacefully' leave the Convicts to fend for themselves under the RETURN of the Aboriginal cultural rulership.
That's the RIGHT thing to do. Like Britain giving back Hong Kong to the Chinese, like giving South Africa back to the Xhoi-Sans (not the Bantu from West Africa).

...but we know 'that' won't happen. Those Convicts, being under British rule, now won't settle to come under Aboriginal rule. They'll buy guns off the Americans and run their own 'Republican' show like a drunken brawl in a Pub.
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Reply #23 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:01pm
 
We know, JaSin - we've heard it all before... though why anyone would WANT to arbitrarily declare themselves part of some dreadfully oppressed group is beyond me.  If it's so bad why would you want to unless you have something wrong upstairs.
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[size=16]Neferti wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:41am:
mozzaok wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:26am:
How WUDE, doncha know race is a state of mind.
I remember the first white black feller that told us all that was that Tassie bloke back in the 70's.
Bugger me dead if he wasn't right though, I mean if yer can be a sheila, and still have all yer wedding tackle in full working order, like that Caitlyn Jenner bloke, then why can't ya be a white black?
If I makes sense to you, then it makes sense to me.


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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:01pm:
We know, JaSin - we've heard it all before... though why anyone would WANT to arbitrarily declare themselves part of some dreadfully oppressed group is beyond me.  If it's so bad why would you want to unless you have something wrong upstairs.


White people in employment or industry of things like Land Farming, Reserves and Park Management, Environmental Land Sciences and anything else 'associated' with the Land is 'closer' to the core essence of Aboriginal Culture than other things like Airlines, Fishing and Aquaculture of the seas. Medical, Political, Military, Religious, Sporting, etc, etc.
The Religion of Islam is much associated of all things the 'Land' (Holy) and is themed more on Africa than Asia or Europe from it's Middle-East home. Just like Judaism is on Asia (Holy City) and Christianity is on Europe (Holy Ghost).
Hence why many Africans find Islam easy to associate with.
Aboriginal Culture, like Islam, like African-Americans, like all 'Black' things like Mathematics (Economics: Black Market) and the Land point to Africa.
Aboriginalism is a gateway or 'Portal' to Africa over in that direction. Many 'portal' to Britain and America like Farcasters. Some to Asia, etc.

You can be White, Yellow, Green or Blue and still be 'Aboriginal' in culture like someone taking up Christianity from Terra Del Fuego.

Many people appear dark on the outside but are light on the inside, many are reverse.

Anyone can be Aboriginal. Like they can be Victorians. With Australia's appallingly apparent minimalistic low population growth now fully revealed without immigration. There is really no 'blood' to become an Australian. In fact, anyone 'domestically' or even white is looked down upon as Housos or Boguns if they pump out kids. Australia prefers being parents of white little fluffy dogs.

Anyone can be Aboriginal. It's not just for Black People anymore. Aboriginals are not Racist. They let anyone immigrate into their 'World'.
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Reply #26 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:48pm
 
Induced Borderline Personality Disorder requiring that the sufferer seek desperately to 'belong' to some group - see gang membership, ethnic identity, club/team affiliation, etc.  Induced Borderline Personality Disorder is a sub-set of the Borderline Personality Spectrum, in that the 'inducing' is created by peer pressures, educational 'authority' figures, and so forth, via a process of constantly harping on the vast merit of the noble savage in us all and on the comparative 'freedom' of being able to act without social constraint. 

Thus the sufferer seeks release from the straits of having to behave as a noble member of a civilised - or in their eyes constrained - society, and is 'empowered' by this new sense of 'identity' to rebel and to 'stand strong' against the claimed sea of oppression within that society, since to do so is to demonstrate the moral and fundamental superiority of the noble savage group to which the sufferer chooses to belong.

See also:- Pascoitus (sic) - a dire complaint in which the sufferer - the 'Pascoe' - is literally coitused in the head.  See also Transgenderitis or Alphabetitis.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
Induced Borderline Personality Disorder requiring that the sufferer seek desperately to 'belong' to some group - see gang membership, ethnic identity, club/team affiliation, etc.  Induced Borderline Personality Disorder is a sub-set of the Borderline Personality Spectrum, in that the 'inducing' is created by peer pressures, educational 'authority' figures, and so forth, via a process of constantly harping on the vast merit of the noble savage in us all.  Thus the sufferer seeks release from the straits of having to behave as a noble member of a civilised - or in their eyes constrained - society, and is 'empowered' by this new sense of 'identity' to rebel and to 'stand strong' against the claimed sea of oppression within that society, since to do so is to demonstrate the moral and fundamental superiority of the noble savage group to which the sufferer chooses to belong.

See also:- Pascoitus (sic) - a dire complaint in which the sufferer - the 'Pascoe' - is literally coitused in the head.



And in a way, I am a Blue Diver. A creature of the Water and all of its 'culture' that goes with it - shared with many others around the world. I am what I am. But I am still welcomed into the Aboriginal World in many ways like a visitor, a tourist, a worker and more. Am I aboriginal because of this? No. Like Monopoly - just visiting. Many Aboriginals are in my world of the Water, rather than the Land. The ones, that came from an Aboriginal start, but no longer consider themselves Aboriginal - rather another Spirit of the Sea, rather than Land. Seem to move on further than their others who cling to the Aboriginal title. People change and are allowed to change.
It's just 'worlds'.
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Reply #28 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:08pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:54pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
Induced Borderline Personality Disorder requiring that the sufferer seek desperately to 'belong' to some group - see gang membership, ethnic identity, club/team affiliation, etc.  Induced Borderline Personality Disorder is a sub-set of the Borderline Personality Spectrum, in that the 'inducing' is created by peer pressures, educational 'authority' figures, and so forth, via a process of constantly harping on the vast merit of the noble savage in us all.  Thus the sufferer seeks release from the straits of having to behave as a noble member of a civilised - or in their eyes constrained - society, and is 'empowered' by this new sense of 'identity' to rebel and to 'stand strong' against the claimed sea of oppression within that society, since to do so is to demonstrate the moral and fundamental superiority of the noble savage group to which the sufferer chooses to belong.

See also:- Pascoitus (sic) - a dire complaint in which the sufferer - the 'Pascoe' - is literally coitused in the head.



And in a way, I am a Blue Diver. A creature of the Water and all of its 'culture' that goes with it - shared with many others around the world. I am what I am. But I am still welcomed into the Aboriginal World in many ways like a visitor, a tourist, a worker and more. Am I aboriginal because of this? No. Like Monopoly - just visiting. Many Aboriginals are in my world of the Water, rather than the Land. The ones, that came from an Aboriginal start, but no longer consider themselves Aboriginal - rather another Spirit of the Sea, rather than Land. Seem to move on further than their others who cling to the Aboriginal title. People change and are allowed to change.
It's just 'worlds'.


If only it were that simple - without some making such a big fuss about it.  I, for one, would be happy to just go about my own peaceful business - but when they saw off Digger statues at a cenotaph in a country town....
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And the Aboriginals entered the White Politics - which claims to be the 'World' Politics with it, just like White people entered their continent.
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rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 4:38am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  [highlight]It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods.[/highlight] Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What a load of leftard bullshyte.

Seems your eyes are blind.

Always with the "white people" blame game for everything.

Not all empire belonged to white people.

History has shown us that you racist twat.

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Gnads wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 4:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I have just explained, "race" is a social construct, Soren.  Are you dim or something?  Find it difficult to accept that "race" doesn't exist except in your imagination?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Oh yeah everythings a social construct to numpties who lean too far left Grin Grin like gender ey Bwyan?  Roll Eyes


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Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01am:
HBrian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are an african aboriginal, Bbbwian?  Indian-chinese-mexican? Not a white man with a beknighted Sir, a speaker in the SA parliament for a gramps?  No, you are an aborigine, like Pascoe, a red indian, an amazonian indian, an arab and a chinese, maori japanese zulu.

And always, above all, an idiot.


Who cares what I am, Soren?  I don't.  I am me.  That is all that matters.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What race are you? Abo? African. Chinese? All of those? None?

White privileged boy? Proud Abo? You cant be everything and the op is site of everything.

You accept Pink Pascie is a proud abo. What are you?



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I have just explained, "race" is a social construct, Soren.  Are you dim or something?  Find it difficult to accept that "race" doesn't exist except in your imagination?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So what do you tick on the census questionnaire? 'None of the above'?

All sorts of other species have different breeds - horses, cats, dogs. The difference between the breeds can be subtle but it is mostly very obvious. They are not just physical. Temperament, intelligence, friendliness and trainability also differ between breeds as well as individuals. And so with humans. It is not a social construct, nor a sin, to notice the difference  between the chineese, africans, aborigines and europeans.
Race is a word for breed, descent. If there was no such thing as race then ghere would be no BLM and people wouldn't  have lost their jobs by saying what you are: all lives matter because there is no such thing as blacks, whites, etc.


Horses are horses, genetically, Soren.  Dogs are just dogs, cats are just cats.  All have been bred for specific traits desired by their owners building on what they had developed because of the environment that they came from.  Humans are humans, Soren.  There are no significant differences between various humans.  They can all interbreed justas all Horses, Dogs, Cats, etc. can.  Some are strong, some weak, some intelligent, some less so, some are black, some yellow, some white, some sallow.  Who cares, except Racists like you who create a whole rationale to explain what they look like and act as it if is real.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #34 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science. Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.
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Reply #35 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm
 
So what's  all the 'diversity is strength' bs about if not difference??!!  What's  black studies about?  Why is there a Department of Aboriginal Affairs if you cannot tell an Aborigine from an Irishman?

Can you be indigineous without any Aboriginal ancestry (not counting Pascoe)? If not, how many do you need and how far back to still be an Aborigine and not something else?
Are white Aborigines not racist by repudiating 3 of their 4 grandparent in favour of the 4th?

Why is there preferment of Aborigines if there are no races? Why have quotas for race and gender if they are just social constructs?
Where does this eyewatering idiocy end? ( not asking you, Bbbwian, you are one of the eyewateringly stupid, incoherent, self-contradictory bozos pushing the idiocies.)

Five years after Rachel Dolezal shocked the world with the revelation of her whiteness, we’ve seen three back-to-back cases of white women pretending to be black go viral.
The most recent, Satchuel Paigelyn Cole, was a community leader in Indianapolis who worked with groups like Black Lives Matter and Showing Up for Racial Justice. While ‘Satch’ had been white her whole life, she hadn’t always been named Satchuel. In 2010 she changed her name from Jennifer Lynn Benton to a mix of Satchel Paige, legendary pitcher of the Negro leagues, and Chantelle-Owens-Cole, Benton’s African American friend.

Before Satch was outed, there was C.V. Vitolo-Haddad (pronoun ‘they’), the graduate student at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who resigned from both their teaching position and their leadership role at the TAA, after they confessed that their roots were not black but Southern Italian/Sicilian. (There was a time in the US when being Sicilian might have been enough.)
And, of course, only days before C.V. came out, the woman who kicked off this hat-trick was none other than George Washington University’s Africana Studies professor Jessica Krug who, according to her confession on Medium, had ‘eschewed’ her ‘lived experience as a white Jewish child in suburban Kansas City under various assumed identities within a Blackness’ that she ‘had no right to claim: first North African Blackness, then US rooted Blackness, then Caribbean rooted Bronx Blackness’.  Duke University Press poses the question, now that Krug’s been found out, ‘What are we then to do with her scholarship, which, as it happens, has been widely praised and recognized as important?’
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
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Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Argh, aye - blacks have shrunken foreheads like apes, thus destroying any higher thinking ability.... and they sweat more...
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Neanderthals of Europe and the Middle-East were out-done by the smaller brained Sapiens.
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The White race is going extinct.
We could never out breed the:
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Africans.


We should be declared an endangered species.
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
The White race is going extinct.
We could never out breed the:
Chinese,
Indians and
Africans.


We should be declared an endangered species.

Bbbwian is going to roll his eyes at you.
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Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
The White race is going extinct.
We could never out breed the:
Chinese,
Indians and
Africans.


We should be declared an endangered species.

Bbbwian is going to roll his eyes at you.



Brian doesn't know.

There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.
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Neanderthals of Europe and the Middle-East were out-done by the smaller brained Sapiens.
Not at all. You  can put your dunce cap on and sit with Brian in the corner. Current DNA evidence shows that the ancestors of Europeans and Asians actually interbred with Neanderthals, in other words we absorbed them into our gene pool. Although Neanderthals generally had a larger brain than modern humans its not known if this equated to a higher intelligence. Its speculated from the shape of their skulls  that they may have been smarter but less aggressive than modern humans which contributed to their downfall.
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rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
Lol. Someone turn Brian over, hes done.
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Determination of ancestry
The determination of an individual's ancestry is typically grouped into three historical groups, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. However, the use of these classifications is becoming much harder as the rate of interancestrial marriages increases and markers become less defined.[41] By measuring distances between landmarks on the skull as well as the size and shape of specific bones anthropologists can use a series of equations to estimate ancestry. Typically, the maxilla is used to help anthropologists determine an individual's ancestry due to the three basic shapes, hyperbolic, parabolic, and rounded, belonging to the three historical ancestries, Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid respectively.[42] In addition to the maxilla, the zygomatic arch and the nasal opening have been used to narrow down possible ancestry.[43] A program called FORDISC has been created that will calculate the most likely ancestry using complex mathematical formulas.[44] This program is continually updated with new information from known individuals to maintain a database of current populations and their respective measurements. Determination of ancestry is incredibly controversial but often needed for police investigations to narrow down subject pool.


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rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science. Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.

Bbbwian is lying doggo.

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Reply #44 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science.


Where did I claim it was?   Roll Eyes

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Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


Generally, humans are humans.  Some have darker skin, some lighter, some have sallow skin tone, some yellow, all are humans though.  Some have a predisposition to disease, some don't.  Some have epicanthic folds above their eyes, some don't.   They can all interbreed.  This is what you appear not to understand.  You harp on about irrelevant ideas as if they were facts.  They are not, they are based on out of date and disproved theories.   Different "races" are all human, they can all interbreed with other "races".   Tsk, tsk, that must come very hard to a Racist like yourself.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
So what's  all the 'diversity is strength' bs about if not difference??!!  What's  black studies about?  Why is there a Department of Aboriginal Affairs if you cannot tell an Aborigine from an Irishman?

Can you be indigineous without any Aboriginal ancestry (not counting Pascoe)? If not, how many do you need and how far back to still be an Aborigine and not something else?
Are white Aborigines not racist by repudiating 3 of their 4 grandparent in favour of the 4th?

Why is there preferment of Aborigines if there are no races? Why have quotas for race and gender if they are just social constructs?
Where does this eyewatering idiocy end? ( not asking you, Bbbwian, you are one of the eyewateringly stupid, incoherent, self-contradictory bozos pushing the idiocies.)

Five years after Rachel Dolezal shocked the world with the revelation of her whiteness, we’ve seen three back-to-back cases of white women pretending to be black go viral.
The most recent, Satchuel Paigelyn Cole, was a community leader in Indianapolis who worked with groups like Black Lives Matter and Showing Up for Racial Justice. While ‘Satch’ had been white her whole life, she hadn’t always been named Satchuel. In 2010 she changed her name from Jennifer Lynn Benton to a mix of Satchel Paige, legendary pitcher of the Negro leagues, and Chantelle-Owens-Cole, Benton’s African American friend.

Before Satch was outed, there was C.V. Vitolo-Haddad (pronoun ‘they’), the graduate student at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who resigned from both their teaching position and their leadership role at the TAA, after they confessed that their roots were not black but Southern Italian/Sicilian. (There was a time in the US when being Sicilian might have been enough.)
And, of course, only days before C.V. came out, the woman who kicked off this hat-trick was none other than George Washington University’s Africana Studies professor Jessica Krug who, according to her confession on Medium, had ‘eschewed’ her ‘lived experience as a white Jewish child in suburban Kansas City under various assumed identities within a Blackness’ that she ‘had no right to claim: first North African Blackness, then US rooted Blackness, then Caribbean rooted Bronx Blackness’.  Duke University Press poses the question, now that Krug’s been found out, ‘What are we then to do with her scholarship, which, as it happens, has been widely praised and recognized as important?’


You sound upset, Soren.  You appear unwilling to accept new scientific thinking on the issue created by Genetics.  I suppose your mindset is what makes you so outdated in your thinking.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science.


Where did I claim it was?   Roll Eyes

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Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


Generally, humans are humans.  Some have darker skin, some lighter, some have sallow skin tone, some yellow, all are humans though.  Some have a predisposition to disease, some don't.  Some have epicanthic folds above their eyes, some don't.   They can all interbreed.  This is what you appear not to understand.  You harp on about irrelevant ideas as if they were facts.  They are not, they are based on out of date and disproved theories.   Different "races" are all human, they can all interbreed with other "races".   Tsk, tsk, that must come very hard to a Racist like yourself.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
You keep babbling on that humans can all breed with each other, however that doesnt prove the non existence of races. Modern humans bred with Neanderthals and other species as well. How about some actual science Brian because you arent looking good at this.
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Reply #47 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:25pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science.


Where did I claim it was?   Roll Eyes

Quote:
Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


Generally, humans are humans.  Some have darker skin, some lighter, some have sallow skin tone, some yellow, all are humans though.  Some have a predisposition to disease, some don't.  Some have epicanthic folds above their eyes, some don't.   They can all interbreed.  This is what you appear not to understand.  You harp on about irrelevant ideas as if they were facts.  They are not, they are based on out of date and disproved theories.   Different "races" are all human, they can all interbreed with other "races".   Tsk, tsk, that must come very hard to a Racist like yourself.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
You keep babbling on that humans can all breed with each other, however that doesnt prove the non existence of races. Modern humans bred with Neanderthals and other species as well. How about some actual science Brian because you arent looking good at this.


I'm looking a hell of a lot better than any of the Racists are.  Yes, Homo Sapiens interbred with Neanderthals and Devonians.   However, they were more than likely sufficiently alike Genetically for that to occur.  It would be like a Wolf interbreeding with a Dog.  Not impossible but unlikely.   They were not sufficiently genetically unlike each other for a baby to develop.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
The White race is going extinct.
We could never out breed the:
Chinese,
Indians and
Africans.


We should be declared an endangered species.

Bbbwian is going to roll his eyes at you.



Brian doesn't know.

There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.


What are they going to eat?  One another?  Soylent Black?
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Reply #49 - Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
The White race is going extinct.
We could never out breed the:
Chinese,
Indians and
Africans.


We should be declared an endangered species.

Bbbwian is going to roll his eyes at you.


Brian doesn't know.

There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.


There will not be another 1000 million Africans inside 30 years. I will struggle to believe that there will be any more than another 100 million Africans by the year 2050.

China's population will collapse. India will stabilise. We might see more Middle Eastern people, though.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:25pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science.


Where did I claim it was?   Roll Eyes

Quote:
Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


Generally, humans are humans.  Some have darker skin, some lighter, some have sallow skin tone, some yellow, all are humans though.  Some have a predisposition to disease, some don't.  Some have epicanthic folds above their eyes, some don't.   They can all interbreed.  This is what you appear not to understand.  You harp on about irrelevant ideas as if they were facts.  They are not, they are based on out of date and disproved theories.   Different "races" are all human, they can all interbreed with other "races".   Tsk, tsk, that must come very hard to a Racist like yourself.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
You keep babbling on that humans can all breed with each other, however that doesnt prove the non existence of races. Modern humans bred with Neanderthals and other species as well. How about some actual science Brian because you arent looking good at this.


I'm looking a hell of a lot better than any of the Racists are.  Yes, Homo Sapiens interbred with Neanderthals and Devonians.   However, they were more than likely sufficiently alike Genetically for that to occur.  It would be like a Wolf interbreeding with a Dog.  Not impossible but unlikely.   They were not sufficiently genetically unlike each other for a baby to develop.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
They were different species Brian, do you know anything?
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Waal - the way I read it, Pilgrims - it says that Aboriginal DNA can't be positively identified since the company does not have an adequate base to work from.... not that it can't be identified at all....

There is a helix of a difference there.....
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Reply #52 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 5:57am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
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We know, JaSin - we've heard it all before... though why anyone would WANT to arbitrarily declare themselves part of some dreadfully oppressed group is beyond me.  If it's so bad why would you want to unless you have something wrong upstairs.


White people in employment or industry of things like Land Farming, Reserves and Park Management, Environmental Land Sciences and anything else 'associated' with the Land is 'closer' to the core essence of Aboriginal Culture than other things like Airlines, Fishing and Aquaculture of the seas. Medical, Political, Military, Religious, Sporting, etc, etc.
The Religion of Islam is much associated of all things the 'Land' (Holy) and is themed more on Africa than Asia or Europe from it's Middle-East home. Just like Judaism is on Asia (Holy City) and Christianity is on Europe (Holy Ghost).
Hence why many Africans find Islam easy to associate with.
Aboriginal Culture, like Islam, like African-Americans, like all 'Black' things like Mathematics (Economics: Black Market) and the Land point to Africa.
Aboriginalism is a gateway or 'Portal' to Africa over in that direction. Many 'portal' to Britain and America like Farcasters. Some to Asia, etc.

You can be White, Yellow, Green or Blue and still be 'Aboriginal' in culture like someone taking up Christianity from Terra Del Fuego.

Many people appear dark on the outside but are light on the inside, many are reverse.

Anyone can be Aboriginal. Like they can be Victorians. With Australia's appallingly apparent minimalistic low population growth now fully revealed without immigration. There is really no 'blood' to become an Australian. In fact, anyone 'domestically' or even white is looked down upon as Housos or Boguns if they pump out kids. Australia prefers being parents of white little fluffy dogs.

Anyone can be Aboriginal. It's not just for Black People anymore. Aboriginals are not Racist. They let anyone immigrate into their 'World'.


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Reply #53 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 6:04am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
The White race is going extinct.
We could never out breed the:
Chinese,
Indians and
Africans.


We should be declared an endangered species.

Bbbwian is going to roll his eyes at you.



Brian doesn't know.

There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.


What are they going to eat?  One another?  Soylent Black?



They'll grow potatoes and eat them every day.
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Reply #54 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 6:08am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Just as there are no barriers to interbreeding different breeds of dogs, cattle, pigeons, chickens, horses, budgies, goats, sheep etc etc.

All genetic traits of each breed/variety/colour/race can be singled out & are identifiable.

None of which are social constructs.

If that applied to human beings then there would be no visible difference in colours or physical attributes.

All you do Bwyan is parrot "woke" theory to suit a utopian dream.
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rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science. Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


All put to Bwyan before..... many times.

But he only believes the woke BS.
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Reply #56 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 6:21am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science.


Where did I claim it was?   Roll Eyes

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Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


Generally, humans are humans.  Some have darker skin, some lighter, some have sallow skin tone, some yellow, all are humans though.  Some have a predisposition to disease, some don't.  Some have epicanthic folds above their eyes, some don't.   They can all interbreed.  This is what you appear not to understand.  You harp on about irrelevant ideas as if they were facts.  They are not, they are based on out of date and disproved theories.   Different "races" are all human, they can all interbreed with other "races".   Tsk, tsk, that must come very hard to a Racist like yourself.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No one is arguing that they can't dopey .... you seem to think that's the only point to make & it makes you right.

As for the rest I've highlighted ... that's you in a nutshell ...hypocrite.
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Reply #57 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 11:18am
 
And if you can't breed with another - then they are considered 'Alien'.

Each Race: Blue, Green, Brown, Grey, Black, White, Red & Yellow. Is providing enough to both mix with others and also keep a distinctive gene pool of purity where the 'sameness' folds over itself like the folding of a samurai sword. That's where you will find that 'common' appearance of the people, where they all look 'similar'.

Currently though, only the Browns, Yellows and Blacks have managed this. The Blues, Reds, Whites and Greys that existed squished together in Europe are still yet to find their 'pure gene pool' that strengthens the individual look of that race.

Although 'pure-breeding' brings out a distinctive shared look of similarities that sets one race apart from others. It is lacking in genetic variation unlike those that are of 'mixed' race relations between the 8 major gene pools that will emerge. Red is raising its head in North America with Trump the 'red herring'.

Mixed Race people have more robust immune systems and many health and intelligence advantages - even known for their own unique beautiful mutations.

Neanderthal, Denisovian & Tribe X (Ophirian) of Africa were all 'pure' distinctive 'gene pools' from each other due to a long period of isolationism because of climate. 400,000 years later, the Sapiens appeared like a mixed bunch of mongrels. The purity of the archaic previous inhabitants was  also a 'fragile' thing that brough about their end.
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Not in the race, mate .......
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Reply #59 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 1:24pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 6:21am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 10:01pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2020 at 1:47pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:01pm:
DNA cannot prove if the patient is one "race" or another.  DNA has destroyed the concept of "race".  It proves we are all from the only race, the human one.   It is what allows people to interbreed.   We are all one species of homo sapien sapiens.  All the Racists claims about how skin colour/eye shape/thickness of lips/shape of nose/etc. are based upon falsehoods.  It was designed to allow White people to dominate and control other peoples all based upon falsehoods. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Love to see you have that debate and lose within 60 seconds with a forensic anthropologist.
Brian; race doesnt exist
Forensic anthropology: A whole field of science and scientists disagree.
Brian:  Embarrassed


Genetics has proved that the concept of "Race" is a social construct.  There are no barriers to peoples from different "races" interbreeding.  I am unsure why you find this such a hard concept to grasp unless you subscribe to the non-scientific thought of the social construct.  The forensic anthropologist does that.  He comes from a faculty which is at best pseudo-science.  His role is to categorise people into a old system which was based upon the social construct.  He fails to use modern science like genetics and instead relies on physical description on the basis of bones, not genetic make up.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


you appear very muddled here. To start with the field of genetics is not a social science.


Where did I claim it was?   Roll Eyes

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Secondly genetics has proved beyond doubt the existence of disparate groups within humans. They are using this knowledge to develop treatments for people who are genetically predisposed to specific illnesses because they belong to disparate racial groups. Ever heard of the sickle cell mutation? You just dont have any scientific knowledge on this subject. And yes, despite your claim DNA can and does show the colour of a persons skin.


Generally, humans are humans.  Some have darker skin, some lighter, some have sallow skin tone, some yellow, all are humans though.  Some have a predisposition to disease, some don't.  Some have epicanthic folds above their eyes, some don't.   They can all interbreed.  This is what you appear not to understand.  You harp on about irrelevant ideas as if they were facts.  They are not, they are based on out of date and disproved theories.   Different "races" are all human, they can all interbreed with other "races".   Tsk, tsk, that must come very hard to a Racist like yourself.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No one is arguing that they can't dopey .... you seem to think that's the only point to make & it makes you right.

As for the rest I've highlighted ... that's you in a nutshell ...hypocrite.


That would explain the Racists' ideas about "pure bred" people would it, Gnads?  That would explain the various laws against Miscegenation that existed against (usually) Black and White people interbreeding, now would it?   Gnads what you might claim you believe as against what most Racists believe are perhaps two different things but you are a Racist.  Tsk, tsk.  History tells against your beliefs, just as Science proved them wrong.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Why is there a Race Commissioner on $340K a year if there are no races? Why isnt he the DNA Commissioner?
https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/race-discrimination

In Australia, it is unlawful to discriminate on the basis of a number of protected attributes including age, disability, race, sex, intersex status, gender identity and sexual orientation in certain areas of public life, including education and employment.
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Why is there mention of race in the law if there is no such thing?

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yes Brian, answer that.
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Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.
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Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool
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Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.

people also believe the laws of physics exist. You yourself might choose to not believe them but jump out of a 10 story building and you will quickly become aware of their validity.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   

nah, he is.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


Grin Nah ..... the truth would be that a racial group believe they are being discriminated against or oppressed.

The real social construct in all this is that all issues relating to racial conflict(there's that word again "race"), oppression & discrimination is the responsibility of one single group ... white people.

Academics - woke scientists & wankers like Bwyan espouse it as gospel.

Never been a bigger pack of self hating racists.

The fact is Unsub ...... races of humanbeings exist just as different varieties/sub species/breeds of the same animal do.

Vision & fact don't lie.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool

"a number of protected attributes including age, disability, race, sex"


An attribute is an inherent characteristic. The law identifies race as such.  Why do you insist that race is only an imaginary attribute in the law?
Also note that the law makes no mention of DNA. Why? Because it's irrelevant to this and ALL other attributes (inherent characteristics).



Is Pascoe mistaken to imagine himself Aboriginal when there is only one race, the human race? What does it mean to self-identify as Aborigine? Black?

Why is it wrong for whites to self-identify as Black?


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A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society. The term was first used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations.


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Well - let's be honest here - some Races™ are Superior™.  That's why we have Wars of Ethnic Group Inferiority Complex such as that raging in the Middle East/Afghanistan as we speak.

Ask an Ay-Rab or an Afghani if they consider themselves 'separate but superior'......... we are daily bombarded with the nonsense that the 'land husbandry'™ of small groups of semi-nomads who never farmed on a large scale or raised stock are Superior™ to other approaches which produce the results daily.

How much more proof do you want that each and every group thinks itself Superior™ in some way - in most cases The Noble Savage™ trumps(sic) the Civilised Man™ every time - just ask them!!  Then they lose in every way and become vassals of Old White Men™ ...
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In science we classify things all the time. We look for the similarities and differences in things and classify them as x, y, z species, primates and non primates etc. It doesn't mean that those differences and similarities are a social construct; made up by society. The differences are out there in the real world for all to see except if you're woke. 

You do know that SJWs are now saying that maths (eg 2+2=4) is a social construct devised by evil white people to suppress the other races especially black people.
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Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 6:59am:
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A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society. The term was first used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations.


https://7img.net/users/3715/71/50/82/smiles/1411396529.gif

In science we classify things all the time. We look for the similarities and differences in things and classify them as x, y, z species, primates and non primates etc. It doesn't mean that those differences and similarities are a social construct; made up by society. The differences are out there in the real world for all to see except if you're woke. 

You do know that SJWs are now saying that maths (eg 2+2=4) is a social construct devised by evil white people to suppress the other races especially black people.   


Yes..... that's the clincher.

The SJWs have short memories when it comes to maths ... because the Arabs had a big hand in it's development especially with Algebra, geometry & trigonometry.

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Mathematics during the Golden Age of Islam, especially during the 9th and 10th centuries, was built on Greek mathematics (Euclid, Archimedes, Apollonius) and Indian mathematics (Aryabhata, Brahmagupta). Important progress was made, such as the full development of the decimal place-value system to include decimal fractions, the first systematised study of algebra (named for The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing by scholar Al-Khwarizmi), and advances in geometry and trigonometry.[1]

Arabic works also played an important role in the transmission of mathematics to Europe during the 10th to 12th centuries.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.
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rhino wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   

nah, he is.


Well, I am quite a handsome guy. So, I would have to be an academic, according to that type of equivalency.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.


Oh he can say it. And he will keep saying it because that's what the ideology dictates. Its no different to a religious fanatic and its showing very similar traits to Nazism especially in academia. We have known for over a century that ideology and science don't mix but now in academia you determine what result you want according to your ideology and then compile the "scientific" data and formulate the arguments that fit with it. It really is barbaric and exactly what the Nazies did to conclude that it was scientifically proven that Jews are a sub-spices of humans. And thats what brainwashed automatons like Bwyan don't understand. He thinks he's being super noble by making up science to fit in with his woke ideology but its just opening the door for others to do the same only for real oppressive ends, not the bogus pretend "look at me everybody aren't I just dripping with virtue" oppression Bwyan talks about.
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Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 6:38am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool

"a number of protected attributes including age, disability, race, sex"

An attribute is an inherent characteristic. The law identifies race as such.  Why do you insist that race is only an imaginary attribute in the law?
Also note that the law makes no mention of DNA. Why? Because it's irrelevant to this and ALL other attributes (inherent characteristics).

Is Pascoe mistaken to imagine himself Aboriginal when there is only one race, the human race? What does it mean to self-identify as Aborigine? Black?

Why is it wrong for whites to self-identify as Black?


Why is it wrong, Soren?  It is a matter of personal choice I suspect.  You have no direct evidence that Pascoe does not have indigenous Australian parenthood.  You're just going off what has been claimed in the media.  Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

The law does not mention DNA because DNA was not understood when the law was framed.   Even if it had, it would more than likely get it wrong.   DNA can prove who you are, not who you believe you are, Soren.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 6:59am:
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A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society. The term was first used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations.


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In science we classify things all the time. We look for the similarities and differences in things and classify them as x, y, z species, primates and non primates etc. It doesn't mean that those differences and similarities are a social construct; made up by society. The differences are out there in the real world for all to see except if you're woke. 

You do know that SJWs are now saying that maths (eg 2+2=4) is a social construct devised by evil white people to suppress the other races especially black people.   


There are numerous examples where standard taxonomy got it wrong, based as it was on the person preferences/beliefs of the taxonomist.  DNA as corrected that.  It allows scientists to look "under the skin" and determine animal X is to related to animal Y but to animal A instead.   Taxonomy was a means of categorising animals based on how they looked rather than what they were.   Roll Eyes
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.


All part of the social construction of the concept of "race".  "Race" exists because people believe it exists.  You said it yourself.  It has no scientific basis.  DNA has proved it effectively does not exist.   There is only one race and that is the Human one.
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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 1:21pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.


Oh he can say it. And he will keep saying it because that's what the ideology dictates. Its no different to a religious fanatic and its showing very similar traits to Nazism especially in academia. We have known for over a century that ideology and science don't mix but now in academia you determine what result you want according to your ideology and then compile the "scientific" data and formulate the arguments that fit with it. It really is barbaric and exactly what the Nazies did to conclude that it was scientifically proven that Jews are a sub-spices of humans. And thats what brainwashed automatons like Bwyan don't understand. He thinks he's being super noble by making up science to fit in with his woke ideology but its just opening the door for others to do the same only for real oppressive ends, not the bogus pretend "look at me everybody aren't I just dripping with virtue" oppression Bwyan talks about.   


It is not an ideology, it is science.  To suggest otherwise just shows how ignorant you really are.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect
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I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #81 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 3:25pm:
the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect


Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with.   


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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Whats the difference between selfish and self-centered.

Glad to see your reading closely. All the best
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Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Is that your way of saying you wouldnt?
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Reply #86 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:13pm
 
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:09pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Is that your way of saying you wouldnt?


No. Just wondered what Brian's answer would be.  Wink

Many years ago, I was asked that very question by my husband's American boss' wife when they were visiting Australia.  My reply to her was "I would have to meet him first".  Smiley
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Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:15pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:09pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Is that your way of saying you wouldnt?


No. Just wondered what Brian's answer would be.  Wink

Many years ago, I was asked that very question by my husband's American boss' wife when they were visiting Australia.  My reply to her was "I would have to meet him first".  Smiley


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Reply #89 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:34pm
 
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 3:25pm:
the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect


Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with.   




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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:05pm:
Whats the difference between selfish and self-centered.

Glad to see your reading closely. All the best



So you don't know?
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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:31pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:15pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:09pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Is that your way of saying you wouldnt?


No. Just wondered what Brian's answer would be.  Wink

Many years ago, I was asked that very question by my husband's American boss' wife when they were visiting Australia.  My reply to her was "I would have to meet him first".  Smiley


Yes I think that's what Bobbie is missing in his post. I wouldn't want my daughter marrying any of those blokes either


I'd have to meet him first, but it daughter wanted that - it's her choice... she's old enough and brought up to have her own mind.
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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:05pm:
Whats the difference between selfish and self-centered.

Glad to see your reading closely. All the best



So you don't know?
I think its more like I dont care. You might or you might not be right but its not that important enough to me to do a study to find out. I tell you what. You do the study tell me what you find and if one of those expressions I used superfluously just leave it out the next time you read it.    
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People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists.



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aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:34pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 3:25pm:
the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect


Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with.   




wow,
thats a really good post



Thats a Lou Richards kiss of death right there from the genius of the forum.
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aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:34pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 3:25pm:
the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect


Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with.   




wow,
thats a really good post

Ohh shucks, now I'm embarrassed.  Smiley
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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:45pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:34pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 3:25pm:
the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect


Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with.   




wow,
thats a really good post

Ohh shucks, now I'm embarrassed.  Smiley



You should be.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:38pm:
People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists.



Lets pick on this point then.
Why you got 2 days to chase your tail arguing in circles. Im not in sorry. Thats my view. But you know, thats OK, you can have a different view. Which touches on another thing I forgot to mention about the Left. We believe in free speech and resent those who try to take it away with their woke "hate speech" BS    
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Reply #99 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:57pm
 
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:38pm:
People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists.



Lets pick on this point then.
Why you got 2 days to chase your tail arguing in circles. Im not in sorry. Thats my view. But you know, thats OK, you can have a different view. Which touches on another thing I forgot to mention about the Left. We believe in free speech and resent those who try to take it away with their woke "hate speech" BS    



Actually I only believe in consequences. Sure say what you like, but don't sook when you get the consequences.

Or to put it another way, I agree with your right to free speech as long as you follow the duty of thinking before you say something stupid.
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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with. 



Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  If I have "made up science" prove I have made it up, don't just (as usual for my critics) rubbish me personally.   I have made nothing up.  It is all genuine, real science.  Now run along, little lad and find something real to criticise me over, rather than your imagined slights.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Wouldn't worry me, Neferti.  I would respect her choice in partner and I would hope it would occur for the right reasons.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:00pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Wouldn't worry me, Neferti.  I would respect her choice in partner and I would hope it would occur for the right reasons.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What about a Mussie?

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Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:00pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Wouldn't worry me, Neferti.  I would respect her choice in partner and I would hope it would occur for the right reasons.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What about a Mussie?


A who, Bobby?

What do you care about who my daughter would choose to marry or not, Bobby?   What business is it of yours?  What business is it of anybody?  Not everybody shares your Racism, Bobby.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:59pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with. 



Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  If I have "made up science" prove I have made it up, don't just (as usual for my critics) rubbish me personally.   I have made nothing up.  It is all genuine, real science.  Now run along, little lad and find something real to criticise me over, rather than your imagined slights.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No that time has passed now. Its been explained to you over and over and over (not by me but by others) and its clear no matter how much more we go over the same ground your ideology wont allow you to admit the obvious. So frankly I think its time for some self reflection on your part. Ask yourself "Why am I making up all this BS", "Is it something that will hurt science in the long run", "Is it something that will be used to hurt the very groups I'm claiming to champion" "Did I really think about these things or did I just automatically embrace them because they came from popular culture". You know, those sorts of questions.
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Reply #105 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:17pm
 
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:59pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with. 



Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  If I have "made up science" prove I have made it up, don't just (as usual for my critics) rubbish me personally.   I have made nothing up.  It is all genuine, real science.  Now run along, little lad and find something real to criticise me over, rather than your imagined slights.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No that time has passed now. Its been explained to you over and over and over (not by me but by others) and its clear no matter how much more we go over the same ground your ideology wont allow you to admit the obvious. So frankly I think its time for some self reflection on your part. Ask yourself "Why am I making up all this BS", "Is it something that will hurt science in the long run", "Is it something that will be used to hurt the very groups I'm claiming to champion" "Did I really think about these things or did I just automatically embrace them because they came from popular culture". You know, those sorts of questions.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You refuse a direct challenge to your claims?  Seems you have nothing, except ad hominem debate.  You attack me, rather than disprove the ideas I have presented.  That makes you very much a "troll" IMO.  Run along, I am sure there is a bridge you can take up residence of, somewhere.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no relation to science.  Science has shown that "race" as used by Racists is false.  DNA has shown that it does not exist.  There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #106 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:36pm
 
jest , dont argue with bwian.
the ideologically possessed members of the left arent amenable to arguement.
it is a religion and so it just doesnt work that way

you might as well try to convince a jew that pork is very nutrituous or convince a christian that abortion is preferably done in a safe medical environment or convince a muslim that muhamed loved people making cartoons of him and had a wicked sense of humour.

you should not speak to the woke left because 'your speech" itself is blaspheny to the woke left.

speech from someone like yourself or myself is an "expression of our priveleged position of power" and as such is blasphenous.
they could not engage with you or me because there is zero legitimacy to our existence.(in their opinion)

its important not to take it personally.

its also important if you work in a woke company to not speak your mind.
the organisation cannot accept any opinion contrary to doctrine.

i write on topics like this to try to express my thought process for other like minded individuals,

i dont read the replies.

you dont have to.

the ideologue has a crank in the side of his head and it turns and out comes the ideology.

if you are speaking to any of the woke left, the answer is the same.
you dont need to look at who is replying.
they all have the same crank and the same group speak.

its a much better way to deal with the woke left.

as a farmer i someimes come across a snake.

i dont try to reason with it.
it has a snake like personality and reasoning with it is quite rediculous.

its the same with a woke left opponent.

look at them as a snake with a snake like set of characteristics and then say to yourself

'oh thats a snake, if youve met one, youve met them all, they arent really evil, they are just possessed of snake like behaviours. i could never train one. i could kill it but best to just leave it alone. probably someone will come along and try to have a rational discussion with the serpent.
they wil fail and get bit.  thats all the serpent knows how to do.
it has no nuance  Wink

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aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:36pm:
jest , dont argue with bwian.
the ideologically possessed members of the left arent amenable to arguement.
it is a religion and so it just doesnt work that way

you might as well try to convince a jew that pork is very nutrituous or convince a christian that abortion is preferably done in a safe medical environment or convince a muslim that muhamed loved people making cartoons of him and had a wicked sense of humour.

you should not speak to the woke left because 'your speech" itself is blaspheny to the woke left.

speech from someone like yourself or myself is an "expression of our priveleged position of power" and as such is blasphenous.
they could not engage with you or me because there is zero legitimacy to our existence.(in their opinion)

its important not to take it personally.

its also important if you work in a woke company to not speak your mind.
the organisation cannot accept any opinion contrary to doctrine.

i write on topics like this to try to express my thought process for other like minded individuals,

i dont read the replies.

you dont have to.

the ideologue has a crank in the side of his head and it turns and out comes the ideology.

if you are speaking to any of the woke left, the answer is the same.
you dont need to look at who is replying.
they all have the same crank and the same group speak.

its a much better way to deal with the woke left.

as a farmer i someimes come across a snake.

i dont try to reason with it.
it has a snake like personality and reasoning with it is quite rediculous.

its the same with a woke left opponent.

look at them as a snake with a snake like set of characteristics and then say to yourself

'oh thats a snake, if youve met one, youve met them all, they arent really evil, they are just possessed of snake like behaviours. i could never train one. i could kill it but best to just leave it alone. probably someone will come along and try to have a rational discussion with the serpent.
they wil fail and get bit.  thats all the serpent knows how to do.
it has no nuance  Wink



Im a little different. I do think you try at the start to see if you get a sensible discussion but soon as its obvious, as it is in this thread, that no amount of logic or reasoning will displace the ideologically embedded orthodoxy then its clearly a waste of time to persist.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:00pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Wouldn't worry me, Neferti.  I would respect her choice in partner and I would hope it would occur for the right reasons.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What about a Mussie?


A who, Bobby?

What do you care about who my daughter would choose to marry or not, Bobby?   What business is it of yours?  What business is it of anybody?  Not everybody shares your Racism, Bobby.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



But there are no races according to you.

A Mussie is a Muslim.


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If Bwyannnnnnn let his daughter to marry into an abusive and controlled marriage where she woukd be beaten every day, act as nothing more than a p,measure bot and baby maker.
Forced to wear a tent and never, ever answer back.

The baboon in the picture woukd be the perfect partner for her.

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Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 5:00pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
I wonder how red heads think of that Aqua?  They come in for a lot of ribbing, "Ranga" and so on.   Seems to me, some people treat it far more seriously than you do.

I'd love everybody to ignore what colour skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/size of their nose/frizziness of their hair/etc. a person had,  There is no basis in science for Racism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Would you like your daughter to marry an African American?


Wouldn't worry me, Neferti.  I would respect her choice in partner and I would hope it would occur for the right reasons.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What about a Mussie?


A who, Bobby?

What do you care about who my daughter would choose to marry or not, Bobby?   What business is it of yours?  What business is it of anybody?  Not everybody shares your Racism, Bobby.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But there are no races according to you.

A Mussie is a Muslim.


And yet you used the full word when asked to explain it.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I refuse to call Muslims anything other than Muslim because to do so is to disrespect them without justifiable cause.  It is like calling an Indigenous Australian an "Abbo".   Again, without cause other than to try and insult them.

Now, why didn't you address the other questions, Bobby?  Are you that shallow?  Really?  I am disappointed in you.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Im a little different. I do think you try at the start to see if you get a sensible discussion but soon as its obvious, as it is in this thread, that no amount of logic or reasoning will displace the ideologically embedded orthodoxy then its clearly a waste of time to persist. 


No, you are troll.  You failed in to address the points I have made, instead haring off about the non-scientific claims that Racists make.  Genetics is an exact science.  It does not allow mistakes.   DNA determines who are person or an animal is.  The previous efforts at Taxonomy failed because they relied upon external factors.  The result is that some animals and indeed some humans were considered to be members of different species compared to what they actually were.  Racism relies upon external factors to classify humans as being something other than they are.  It is all determined by the amount of melanin in an individuals skin cells, by the shape of their eyelids, the thickness of their lips, the shape of their nose, not by their DNA.   

Racists don't like talking about Genetics, except in a superficial eugenics way because it reveals that humans all share the same genetic pool.  A black man is simply a human who has evolved to live in the tropics.  An Asian man, to live on the steppes.  A white man to live in the arctic.  They are all humans, their ancestors were humans and their descendants are humans.  They can all interbreed.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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None of that disproves the existence of races Brian. Thats why you are derided here, you continually post off topic statements which do not support your claims. No one claimed different races of humans cant interbreed. No one claimed different races of humans arent humans.
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Brian,
you never answered me.
Would you let your daughter marry a Muslim?



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rhino wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
None of that disproves the existence of races Brian. Thats why you are derided here, you continually post off topic statements which do not support your claims. No one claimed different races of humans cant interbreed. No one claimed different races of humans arent humans.


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rhino wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
None of that disproves the existence of races Brian. Thats why you are derided here, you continually post off topic statements which do not support your claims. No one claimed different races of humans cant interbreed. No one claimed different races of humans arent humans.


Appears you didn't read what I wrote, Rhino.  Shame really.  I'll repeat myself again, just for your benefit, OK?

"Race" is a social construct.   A social construct is one that was created by people and has no science to back it, in the way that it is used by Racists.   Genetics has an awful lot of science to back it's findings.  DNA is the building blocks of life itself.  DNA determines who or what an individual is, how they look, how they talk, how they think.  There are no genetic markers that denote what "race" a person is.   There are no genes that make an African an African and not a European.   Africans, Asians, Europeans all the various "races" share the same genes.   Despite what many Racists might prefer to believe, there is nothing in their claims about the differences between the various "races".

Is that clear, Rhino?  I won't be repeating it.  You keep on living in your social construct world.  I prefer to live in a Scientific one.  Beliefs are not science.  QED.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #116 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 11:08pm
 
yet again Brian, you are wrong. There are DNA markers which tell us which race a person is from. You are just making stuff up because you dont understand science.
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As human migration progressed throughout the world, genetic isolation led to the development of distinct populations that shared common DNA and other genetic material. Race is defined as a group related by common descent or heredity. Often, these groups also share similar phenotypic traits. Outside of genetic characteristics, race can also include cultural and ethnic similarities of a people.

https://knowgenetics.org/dna-and-race/
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Reply #117 - Sep 29th, 2020 at 1:34am
 
Well - to put an end to this fruitless argument - the Ranga herself, young and gullible, started the discussion of 'our race' - but those who claim Pascoism are not racist, eh?  I mean - shutting down Ayers Rock to suit some ancient myth that the locals can't even tell about, is hardly an assertion of some aspect of a superior culture, is it?

Anyway - SHE brought the subject up of 'race' - so it seems that her 'race' see 'race' as a real issue....

Now make  sure you get to school and learn and raise yourself above the victimhood status, girlie, and stay away from drugs, violence and crime..... and from blokes who want to live that way.... I'm absolutely positive there are countless young losers of many hues out there who don't bow down to Old Wharte Man's schooling and his demands they do things his way, who steal cars under-age and kill people on the roads driving madly to show their rebellion against Old Wharte Men, with drug habits and criminal records and tattoos and a penchant for settling any disagreement with their fists even if they are arguing with a woman or child .... I just don't want my daughter or grand-daughters anywhere near them...

A fine young redhead like you can do far better... now grow up and be Australian or go bush forever without bothering us.

**dusts off hands**

... and if you play up - I'll get Mothra Superior in to make you go to school and cut your criminal ways.... even if she does pay lip service to the idea that the incarceration rate is purely based on racism and has nothing to do with actual criminal behaviour, even that which she says is vastly under-reported in 'those' communities...

I think we're on a winner here, Igor! First we winged her about it actually being women these days who are desperately trying to hold on to their now enforced 'birthright' to everything for no effort - then we cop her a beauty over this rational look at her own work and what it actually means!!  She's been quiet for a while...... hope she's all right.... don't want her fretting..... d'ya think she'll support women giving up enough jobs etc in women-controlled work areas, so as to achieve the quota of 50:50 that Labor is trying to shove down our throats?  Wonder why Labor can't get elected in a no real contest situation then????
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Jest wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 3:25pm:
the ideal situation will be when we treat skin colour like hair colour.
of no significance.

it is the left who keep this crap alive though.

black lives matter they shreik Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

could you imagine a world where people shreiked

brunettes lives matter?

nope.

if they shreiked that, you would think they were a weirdo.

and i think most non racists think anyone screaming black lives matter is a weirdo.

wtf is wrong with them.

why do they even notice.

they must be racist, i suspect


Please dont keep associating people like Bwyan with the Left. For all the reasons you have said he is not the Left. People on the Left think for themselves rather than absorb dogma handed down to them from above and then repeat it uncritically like performing seals. People on the Left respect science and dont make science up to fit in with their ideology and most of all people on the Left are not racists. They recognise the differences in people and accord them equal value instead of pretending that the differences do not exist, which as you rightly point out is the ultimate in disrespect and racism. And you're most certainly right that its them who are keeping the flames of racism burning, by looking for racism in every act, every gesture and every statement just itching to call someone racist on the slightest pretext, so that it will never never leave our social consciousness and will remains eternally part of human existence. Just so some selfish self-centered arse holes have something they can signal their virtue with.   




Well said.
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rhino wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
None of that disproves the existence of races Brian. Thats why you are derided here, you continually post off topic statements which do not support your claims. No one claimed different races of humans cant interbreed. No one claimed different races of humans arent humans.


He thinks he has a point..... because it allows him to use his favourite word ..."racists".

By his logic ..... races don't exist.(So neither should racists)

Yet they do .....& they are referenced in all sorts of ways by govt, by media, by police & criminal record etc.

Bwyan parrots woke theory like verbal diarrhea, even when he's told "no one is arguing" that humans of all different types can't interbreed.

He just likes denying the physical evidence that is demonstrated in the existence of many varieties/sub species/breeds of THE SAME animal that can do exactly the same thing ............

genetics may say they are all the same animal ....

but genetics can also say they are different

& it's those selectively chosen genes that make the differences. FACT.
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rhino wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
None of that disproves the existence of races Brian. Thats why you are derided here, you continually post off topic statements which do not support your claims. No one claimed different races of humans cant interbreed. No one claimed different races of humans arent humans.


Appears you didn't read what I wrote, Rhino.  Shame really.  I'll repeat myself again, just for your benefit, OK?

"Race" is a social construct.   A social construct is one that was created by people and has no science to back it, in the way that it is used by Racists.   Genetics has an awful lot of science to back it's findings.  DNA is the building blocks of life itself.  DNA determines who or what an individual is, how they look, how they talk, how they think.  There are no genetic markers that denote what "race" a person is.   There are no genes that make an African an African and not a European.   Africans, Asians, Europeans all the various "races" share the same genes.   Despite what many Racists might prefer to believe, there is nothing in their claims about the differences between the various "races".

Is that clear, Rhino?  I won't be repeating it.  You keep on living in your social construct world.  I prefer to live in a Scientific one.  Beliefs are not science.  QED.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yours is the belief......

your science is base generalisation that also denies fact. QED.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.


All part of the social construction of the concept of "race".  "Race" exists because people believe it exists.  You said it yourself.  It has no scientific basis.  DNA has proved it effectively does not exist.   There is only one race and that is the Human one.


I said that "you CAN'T say that race has no scientific basis. If I banged your wife and she got pregnant with my baby. You would probably notice that the baby does not resember a baby version of you and your wife.

I could father the child of people from a very different race than I. I have actually done that. My daughter is living in Townsville right now. She looks more white than her what her Maori mother's DNA could give her.
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rhino wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 11:08pm:
yet again Brian, you are wrong. There are DNA markers which tell us which race a person is from. You are just making stuff up because you dont understand science.
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As human migration progressed throughout the world, genetic isolation led to the development of distinct populations that shared common DNA and other genetic material. Race is defined as a group related by common descent or heredity. Often, these groups also share similar phenotypic traits. Outside of genetic characteristics, race can also include cultural and ethnic similarities of a people.

https://knowgenetics.org/dna-and-race/


If I post a genetic map for an African person and then one for an Asian and one for a European, can you spot the differences?  I doubt it.  Why?  Because while there are minor differences they are not unique to one "race" or another.  Africans have a predisposition to have sickle cell anemia but it is not unique to them, white people can also suffer from it as can Asians and even Indigenous Australians.  That is the problem, anything one group can suffer from other groups have examples of the same conditions/propensity.   You can have White people who are darker of skin than what is considered "normal" for White people.  Just look a the examples from South Africa under Apartheid: Sandra Laing. Born to white parents who in turn were born to white parents, she was judged "coloured" by the authorities because she had darker skin than they were willing to accept.   You have Indigenous Australians with blonde or red hair.   You have American blacks with lighter skin.  In Africa you have a broad range on of what is considered "black".   Humanity has a wide variety of people in it, a variety that the narrow bands that constitute "race" according to racists doesn't take into account.  Your own quote gets around that because it doesn't reference DNA.  It looks at the physical external aspects of peoples and groups them together.  Tsk, tsk.  Race is a social construct and you seek to play that game.  I don't.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 6:03am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 11:01pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
None of that disproves the existence of races Brian. Thats why you are derided here, you continually post off topic statements which do not support your claims. No one claimed different races of humans cant interbreed. No one claimed different races of humans arent humans.


Appears you didn't read what I wrote, Rhino.  Shame really.  I'll repeat myself again, just for your benefit, OK?

"Race" is a social construct.   A social construct is one that was created by people and has no science to back it, in the way that it is used by Racists.   Genetics has an awful lot of science to back it's findings.  DNA is the building blocks of life itself.  DNA determines who or what an individual is, how they look, how they talk, how they think.  There are no genetic markers that denote what "race" a person is.   There are no genes that make an African an African and not a European.   Africans, Asians, Europeans all the various "races" share the same genes.   Despite what many Racists might prefer to believe, there is nothing in their claims about the differences between the various "races".

Is that clear, Rhino?  I won't be repeating it.  You keep on living in your social construct world.  I prefer to live in a Scientific one.  Beliefs are not science.  QED.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yours is the belief......

your science is base generalisation that also denies fact. QED.


Is it?  And you know this, how?  As usual you fail dismally to address the scientific points that I keep making to instead attack me personally.  Why?  Is it because science is too hard for you to understand?  Really?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, ignorant Gnads.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 12:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.


All part of the social construction of the concept of "race".  "Race" exists because people believe it exists.  You said it yourself.  It has no scientific basis.  DNA has proved it effectively does not exist.   There is only one race and that is the Human one.


I said that "you CAN'T say that race has no scientific basis. If I banged your wife and she got pregnant with my baby. You would probably notice that the baby does not resember a baby version of you and your wife.

I could father the child of people from a very different race than I. I have actually done that. My daughter is living in Townsville right now. She looks more white than her what her Maori mother's DNA could give her.


If you "banged my wife" and she fell pregnant, you would be proving my point for me, UnSub.  Why?  Because as I keep pointing out, all humans share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed.  Idiot.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
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Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.
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Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


He'd be wrong.
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Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?


No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?


No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Rubbish.  Do you have something to hide?  The Police have used the Ancestry DNA results for catching criminals via their rellies.

Why would you be worried about the Mormons, only the Baptists have a special place in Heaven, just ask them.  Wink
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Nah - I've got a fair idea of most of my ancestors.. going back about 3000 years in one line... not sure about some though... there's a Lewis in there who I can't trace, and a Booth or two... and there is some degree of some tint in there from my gorgeous olive skin and lack of sunburning... gotta be a Wop in there somewhere... maybe Chinee from back in the 1800s or so...
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 1:51pm:
If you "banged my wife" and she fell pregnant, you would be proving my point for me, UnSub.  Why?  Because as I keep pointing out, all humans share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed.  Idiot.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I would probably be fulfilling a fantasy of yours, BrianBot. I would probably be proving that other guys are better than you, too. My DNA would leave quite an impression on a hypothetical pregnancy.
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rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


I think Brian is scared that he might find out that he has a Neanderthal rellie, way back.   Grin
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Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.
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Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?


No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Rubbish.  Do you have something to hide?  The Police have used the Ancestry DNA results for catching criminals via their rellies.

Why would you be worried about the Mormons, only the Baptists have a special place in Heaven, just ask them.  Wink


Not interested in the theological debate, Neferti.  The Mormons own ancestry.com.  What do you think they do with the data gathered by people willingly provide it?

I have nothing to hide.  The police weren't looking for what "race" an individual supposedly was.  They were looking for links between the culprit and their families.   Tsk, tsk, you do talk twaddle.    Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 1:51pm:
If you "banged my wife" and she fell pregnant, you would be proving my point for me, UnSub.  Why?  Because as I keep pointing out, all humans share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed.  Idiot.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I would probably be fulfilling a fantasy of yours, BrianBot. I would probably be proving that other guys are better than you, too. My DNA would leave quite an impression on a hypothetical pregnancy.


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You can believe whatever fantasies you want, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk, still no effort by anyone refute the scientific points I have made.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.    Roll Eyes
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


In none of those tracings do they attempt to claim a culprit is one "race" or another, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:02pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


I think Brian is scared that he might find out that he has a Neanderthal rellie, way back.   Grin


Wouldn't worry me, Neferti.  Neanderthals are long gone.  Only a Racist would even mention the topic as if the Neanderthals were dirty or something.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Brian,
you never answered me.
Would you let your daughter marry a Muslim?



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Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.


No such place geographically, JaSin.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian,
you never answered me.
Would you let your daughter marry a Muslim?


Run along, Bobby.  I wouldn't worry who my daughter chose to marry.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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you never answered me.
Would you let your daughter marry a Muslim?


Run along, Bobby.  I wouldn't worry who my daughter chose to marry.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Thanks Brian,
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Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.


No such place geographically, JaSin.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You know the Rift Valley is the Vagina of the world.
Every Species has popped out of there in waves over millenias.
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Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:13pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.


No such place geographically, JaSin.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You know the Rift Valley is the Vagina of the world.
Every Species has popped out of there in waves over millenias.


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Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:13pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.


No such place geographically, JaSin.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You know the Rift Valley is the Vagina of the world.
Every Species has popped out of there in waves over millenias.



There is a new theory that humans evolved out of Europe.

https://www.c21media.net/screenings/albatross/out-of-europe-a-new-story-of-human...
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Not remotely.

Nah - it's the Vaginal Rift Valley where each 'evolution' has emerged from. There's a Monolith down there.
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Not remotely.

Nah - it's the Vaginal Rift Valley where each 'evolution' has emerged from. There's a Monolith down there.



Of course there is:

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It's a giant erect black penis.
Adam was a black man.
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It's a giant erect black penis of worship.
Just like the American Media.  Grin
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


In none of those tracings do they attempt to claim a culprit is one "race" or another, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Oh yes they do my friend.
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The Statistical Strength of a 13-STR Profile
Within the U.S., the 13-STR profile is a widely used means of identification, and this technology is now routinely employed to identify human remains, to establish or exclude paternity, or to match a suspect to a crime scene sample.

In order to utilize STR information as a means of human identification, the FBI established the frequency with which each allele of each of the 13 core STRs naturally occurs in people of different ethnic backgrounds. To this end, the FBI analyzed DNA samples from hundreds of unrelated Caucasian, African American, Hispanic, and Asian individuals. Assuming that all 13 STRs follow the principle of independent assortment (and they should, as they are scattered widely across the genome) and that the population randomly mates, a statistical calculation based upon the FBI-determined STR allele frequencies reveals that the probability of two unrelated Caucasians having identical STR profiles, or so-called "DNA fingerprints," is approximately 1 in 575 trillion (Reilly, 2001).

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Oh yes they do my friend.
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The Statistical Strength of a 13-STR Profile
Within the U.S., the 13-STR profile is a widely used means of identification, and this technology is now routinely employed to identify human remains, to establish or exclude paternity, or to match a suspect to a crime scene sample.

In order to utilize STR information as a means of human identification, the FBI established the frequency with which each allele of each of the 13 core STRs naturally occurs in people of different ethnic backgrounds. To this end, the FBI analyzed DNA samples from hundreds of unrelated Caucasian, African American, Hispanic, and Asian individuals. Assuming that all 13 STRs follow the principle of independent assortment (and they should, as they are scattered widely across the genome) and that the population randomly mates, a statistical calculation based upon the FBI-determined STR allele frequencies reveals that the probability of two unrelated Caucasians having identical STR profiles, or so-called "DNA fingerprints," is approximately 1 in 575 trillion (Reilly, 2001).

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Based on statistical probability, Rhino not one proves that such a relationship actually exists.   It proves only that an individual from a population has that relationship.  It does not prove they are "African" or "Caucasian" or "Asian" or any other supposed "race".  You really are grasping at straws.  First year statistics students are taught, "correlation does not denote causation."  It is something too many ignorant people assume. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Yes, I know big words werent they Brian?
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Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:53pm:
It's a giant erect black penis of worship.
Just like the American Media.  Grin




You need to watch -  2001 a Space Odyssey -
that will explain it.

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Not remotely.

Nah - it's the Vaginal Rift Valley where each 'evolution' has emerged from. There's a Monolith down there.



Of course there is:

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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.



The husband would only NOTICE if he was a wacist like you.

Take Bbwian, for example. If he had a wife and she gave birth to an African or Asian kiddie rather than a blonde and blue eyed one, Bbwian wouldn't notice because there is no such thing as race and so there is nuffin' to notice! Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Race is a distinction as simple as the difference between a car and a motorbike.I wonder why Bwian struggles, so?
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Race is a distinction as simple as the difference between a car and a motorbike.I wonder why Bwian struggles, so?


Because Woke SJWs feel no shame about corrupting science to fit in with Woke ideology, which really is the road to barbarism and stupidity.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:37am:
Race is a distinction as simple as the difference between a car and a motorbike.I wonder why Bwian struggles, so?


Because Woke SJWs feel no shame about corrupting science to fit in with Woke ideology, which really is the road to barbarism and stupidity. 


This is what Orwell meant by 'Freedom is being able to say 2 plus 2 equals four'. When eveeything is boiled down to a social construct, a person becomes unable to state the most evident truths. Ultimately we become like Bwian. Noone wants that.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 12:26pm:
Jest wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 11:15am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:37am:
Race is a distinction as simple as the difference between a car and a motorbike.I wonder why Bwian struggles, so?


Because Woke SJWs feel no shame about corrupting science to fit in with Woke ideology, which really is the road to barbarism and stupidity. 


This is what Orwell meant by 'Freedom is being able to say 2 plus 2 equals four'. When eveeything is boiled down to a social construct, a person becomes unable to state the most evident truths. Ultimately we become like Bwian. Noone wants that.


Well - 2 plus 2 is a social construct set in place by Old White Men to oppress Blacks... nothing to do with literacy and numeracy there... or even fundamental differences in IQ within any social group..

To... to... errrr.. errr.. keep.,... my.. my.. m-m-m-ind active - I... arrrgggh... do quizzes on some US thing - I persistently get 100% or close to in things where they say only 54% of the US population can get over 75% in this - and sometimes it's their own geography and cities and such...

So there ARE fundamental differences in IQ - and I did not say Blecks were lower in IQ - I said with social groups meaning of equivalents as self-decreed.. say, Bro - dat Niggruh dere say he jes' part o' 'Murika o' he sayin' he one Slick Black Dude an' Black Is Bewdiful, yo?
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Never noticed an individual was a Niqqer until he/she got in my face and called me a racist and they'd never yet met me... just on the street passing by..
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When we wuz Kingz and she-et.
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I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 1:51pm:
If you "banged my wife" and she fell pregnant, you would be proving my point for me, UnSub.  Why?  Because as I keep pointing out, all humans share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed.  Idiot.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I would probably be fulfilling a fantasy of yours, BrianBot. I would probably be proving that other guys are better than you, too. My DNA would leave quite an impression on a hypothetical pregnancy.


You can believe whatever fantasies you want, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk, still no effort by anyone refute the scientific points I have made.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.    Roll Eyes


You would be the only forum member at ozpolitic that has said that I can believe whatever fantasy I wish. I will re-read the subject that you have written to this topic and get back to you on what it was that you were trying to convey as an argument.
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


In none of those tracings do they attempt to claim a culprit is one "race" or another, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


DNA markers can determine my ancestry. I would suggest that it would determine my ethnicity.
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:13pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.


No such place geographically, JaSin.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You know the Rift Valley is the Vagina of the world.
Every Species has popped out of there in waves over millenias.



There is a new theory that humans evolved out of Europe.

https://www.c21media.net/screenings/albatross/out-of-europe-a-new-story-of-human...


I think it is a matter of having three distinct racial groups developing in different areas of the world and cut off geographically until they evolved to explore further.
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Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 9:29am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.



The husband would only NOTICE if he was a wacist like you.

Take Bbwian, for example. If he had a wife and she gave birth to an African or Asian kiddie rather than a blonde and blue eyed one, Bbwian wouldn't notice because there is no such thing as race and so there is nuffin' to notice! Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yeah, I saw something that reminded me of Brian. A white couple posing for a photo, with a black toddler between them. Captioned as "owned".

And, yes, I would wonder if Brian would snap had his wife given birth to a baby that did not resemble partly like him, especially if the baby was of a different race.

I would be pissed off like you would not believe if my wife or girlfriend (neither of which exist at the moment) gave birth to a different race from either of us. Why anyone would not feel any kind of betrayal would be beyond me. And I would be sure Brian would not claim that race does not exist had the circumstances happened to him.

Go woke, go broke, Brian.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
When we wuz Kingz and she-et.


"Too many chiefs, not enough little Indians" mindset. Resting on someone else's laurels. Overcompensating for the sake of concealing inferiority.
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I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your scientific points on DNA and interbreeding are irrelevant because they are completely beside the point. That is why you parrot them - you are unable address the points.

There is such a thing as racism. There would be no racism if there were no races and no differences between them. Sexism exists because there are two different sexes and everyone can readily perceive the differences - despite the two sexes being able to interbreed... Shocked

There is age discrimination because people can readily see the difference between a 30 and a 60 year old despite their ability to interbreed if the firmer is a woman and the latter a man, and have no DNA difference between them beyind their sex difference.

There are all sorts of ways people differ from other groups or categories of people. Race is just one kind of difference between people. To insist that the differences everybody sees and experiences every day do not exist because this or that difference is not at the DNA level is idiotic - and so you have made that stance your own, Bbwian.
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I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Brian, there was a movie released in the year 2002 called "Rabbit Proof Fence". Have you seen that movie? In the opening chapters, A.O Neville (played by Kenneth Brannagh) has a scene where he is discussing how to breed out the aboriginality over a matter of 4 generations so that they can look like white Australians. I do not know what the true facts of the matter were. But, if a liberal like Noyce can direct a movie like that and include the racial dilution theory, surely you could admit that RACE exists.
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Reply #172 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:11pm
 
I wish there was a "LIKE" function, because heaps of these comments I would enjoy giving a thumbs up, but couldn't be bothered replying to them all, because it destroys the flow of the thread.
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   "Race" as used by Racists, is a social construct, Soren.  You are so completely under it's spell that you fail to understand the point that is being made.  Racism exists because Racists believe in the social construct.   Science shows there is no basic different between the so-called "Races".   That you fail to understand that shows how much the social construct of "race" plays in your thinking.   Non-Racists don't care what "race" a person is.  Their minor, physical, external differences are just that, minor, physical external differences and should play no part in how you or other people treat one another.   That you refuse to see or understand that simply shows how far you are removed from your fellow humans.   If you're son or daughter brought home a person who was black and declared that they were going to marry them, I am sure you would disown them rather than celebrate their decision.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #174 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Okay, I'll bite.

Why the "Lol" - what's the point of this thread?


Christ almighty, "virtue signal" much?

She is a white, red haired, freckled girl, identifying as another of the poor downtrodden black man.
Handy that, you can flit from world to world at a whim.
If they are gender fluid tey can choose a myriad of genders at the same time, just to keep it all interesting.

The "lol", was obviously because this is all patent bullshit.
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Reply #175 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:16pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:28pm:
I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Brian, there was a movie released in the year 2002 called "Rabbit Proof Fence". Have you seen that movie? In the opening chapters, A.O Neville (played by Kenneth Brannagh) has a scene where he is discussing how to breed out the aboriginality over a matter of 4 generations so that they can look like white Australians. I do not know what the true facts of the matter were. But, if a liberal like Noyce can direct a movie like that and include the racial dilution theory, surely you could admit that RACE exists.


What people may believe is immaterial.   Neville actually stated that.  It ignored what science reveals about the issue.   Genetics proves that there is no real difference between the various "races".    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #176 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:18pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


In none of those tracings do they attempt to claim a culprit is one "race" or another, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


DNA markers can determine my ancestry. I would suggest that it would determine my ethnicity.


Well, can you point where in the Genetic literature where it discovers those genes which do that, UnSub?  I doubt it because Geneticists can't.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #177 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:23pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?


I am concerned because it would be done without my permission using data that I can provided for completely different purposes. UnSub.  It would be akin to using my car driver license to determine who I supported in Footbrawl or Thugby.   I support neither sport and I would be very sorry to see my name misused in that way.   What about you?  Would you be happy to see your name used in such a manner?

My family has never been associated with the Church of the Latter-Day Saints.   I don't wish them to make assumptions, without my permission.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #178 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Have you had your DNA done via Ancestry?
According to Brian, impossible. Must a a big con all that DNA ancestry tracing.


The British have been lying to him for years. And those DNA matches that convict or exonerate the accused have been nothing but a big deception to Brian.


In none of those tracings do they attempt to claim a culprit is one "race" or another, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


DNA markers can determine my ancestry. I would suggest that it would determine my ethnicity.


Well, can you point where in the Genetic literature where it discovers those genes which do that, UnSub?  I doubt it because Geneticists can't.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


DNA can determine age. Surely, you could understand that DNA can determine racial background? My entire ancestry is caucasian. We would have to go back 1500 years before there could be any possibility that some Roman played around with my great x 50 grandmother.
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Reply #179 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:26pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 4:13pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Aboriginals, Adaman Islanders, Tibetans, Ainu and long gone Clovis Amerindians are all related to Denisovians.
Middle-Easterners and Europeans (both Caucasoid) both have Neanderthals. Xhoi-San Africans have the early Ophirian mix as they were the first Sapiens out of the Vagina Rift Valley.


No such place geographically, JaSin.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You know the Rift Valley is the Vagina of the world.
Every Species has popped out of there in waves over millenias.



There is a new theory that humans evolved out of Europe.

https://www.c21media.net/screenings/albatross/out-of-europe-a-new-story-of-human...


I think it is a matter of having three distinct racial groups developing in different areas of the world and cut off geographically until they evolved to explore further.


According to current theory, all "races" originally developed and moved out of the continent which we now know as Africa.   They did not develop until after they had migrated away.   Humanity is a species, a "race" if you like.   There is some evidence that alternative groups may have developed elsewhere but that is very slight.  They tended to be small groups, absorbed or overwhelmed. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #180 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:31pm
 
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   "Race" as used by Racists, is a social construct, Soren.  You are so completely under it's spell that you fail to understand the point that is being made.  Racism exists because Racists believe in the social construct.   Science shows there is no basic different between the so-called "Races".   That you fail to understand that shows how much the social construct of "race" plays in your thinking.   Non-Racists don't care what "race" a person is.  Their minor, physical, external differences are just that, minor, physical external differences and should play no part in how you or other people treat one another.   That you refuse to see or understand that simply shows how far you are removed from your fellow humans.   If you're son or daughter brought home a person who was black and declared that they were going to marry them, I am sure you would disown them rather than celebrate their decision.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So when a non-white guy (is there such a thing?? ) says he's a proud black or Aboriginal, inuit, Asian, Arab etc man - he is perpetuating his racism? ? Is he, the racist he is, emphasising the 'minor physical differences',  expecting  them to be acknowledged, not ignored? Is it not a central part of how he sees himself?

Should they all say, with you, 'I am NOT a proud black, Aboriginal etc man - don't try to social contruct me as being any different to anyone else'.

Is that it?


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Reply #181 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:34pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:00pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 9:29am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 27th, 2020 at 8:34pm:
Racial discrimination acts exist because people believe that races exist.


BINGO!!!!

You are not as silly as you look, UnSub.   What a shame no one else understands the problems with humanity as well as you do. Soren, despite being a Trick-Cyclist never will.

"Race" is a social construct.  It has no scientific basis.  All mentions of the concept of "race" buy into the concept of the social construct.   I don't.   Cool Cool


BrianBot, you can't say that race has no scientific basis when people can see race in action every time a new baby is born with certain racial features. If I banged an Asian wife and she fell pregnant with my baby, you could imagine how race becomes an issue when her Asian husband finds out that his wife has given birth to a Eurasian baby.



The husband would only NOTICE if he was a wacist like you.

Take Bbwian, for example. If he had a wife and she gave birth to an African or Asian kiddie rather than a blonde and blue eyed one, Bbwian wouldn't notice because there is no such thing as race and so there is nuffin' to notice! Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yeah, I saw something that reminded me of Brian. A white couple posing for a photo, with a black toddler between them. Captioned as "owned".

And, yes, I would wonder if Brian would snap had his wife given birth to a baby that did not resemble partly like him, especially if the baby was of a different race.

I would be pissed off like you would not believe if my wife or girlfriend (neither of which exist at the moment) gave birth to a different race from either of us. Why anyone would not feel any kind of betrayal would be beyond me. And I would be sure Brian would not claim that race does not exist had the circumstances happened to him.

Go woke, go broke, Brian.


You like most Racists are only reacting to the minor, external differences which are immaterial.  The baby would still be a person.  Do not create another Sandra Laing like case.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #182 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?


I am concerned because it would be done without my permission using data that I can provided for completely different purposes. UnSub.  It would be akin to using my car driver license to determine who I supported in Footbrawl or Thugby.   I support neither sport and I would be very sorry to see my name misused in that way.   What about you?  Would you be happy to see your name used in such a manner?

My family has never been associated with the Church of the Latter-Day Saints.   I don't wish them to make assumptions, without my permission.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was a Broncos fan until 1995 when the North Qld Cowboys made their appearance in the NRL. If people made assumptions that I was still a Broncos supporter to this day because of my initial childhood fan support of the team, then I would consider it their problem, not mine.

My mother is an Anglican and my father was a Methodist. I attending church from as far back as I remember until I was about 17 years old. The very fact that I considered myself non-religious and even atheist by the time I was 12 years old is not negated by going to church until I was 17.

What your parents and grandparents do is not a reflection of who you are.
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Reply #183 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:43pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?


I am concerned because it would be done without my permission using data that I can provided for completely different purposes. UnSub.  It would be akin to using my car driver license to determine who I supported in Footbrawl or Thugby.   I support neither sport and I would be very sorry to see my name misused in that way.   What about you?  Would you be happy to see your name used in such a manner?

My family has never been associated with the Church of the Latter-Day Saints.   I don't wish them to make assumptions, without my permission.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was a Broncos fan until 1995 when the North Qld Cowboys made their appearance in the NRL. If people made assumptions that I was still a Broncos supporter to this day because of my initial childhood fan support of the team, then I would consider it their problem, not mine.

My mother is an Anglican and my father was a Methodist. I attending church from as far back as I remember until I was about 17 years old. The very fact that I considered myself non-religious and even atheist by the time I was 12 years old is not negated by going to church until I was 17.

What your parents and grandparents do is not a reflection of who you are.


Why should the Mormons be allowed to believe otherwise and "baptise" them into their church without my permission? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #184 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?


I am concerned because it would be done without my permission using data that I can provided for completely different purposes. UnSub.  It would be akin to using my car driver license to determine who I supported in Footbrawl or Thugby.   I support neither sport and I would be very sorry to see my name misused in that way.   What about you?  Would you be happy to see your name used in such a manner?

My family has never been associated with the Church of the Latter-Day Saints.   I don't wish them to make assumptions, without my permission.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was a Broncos fan until 1995 when the North Qld Cowboys made their appearance in the NRL. If people made assumptions that I was still a Broncos supporter to this day because of my initial childhood fan support of the team, then I would consider it their problem, not mine.

My mother is an Anglican and my father was a Methodist. I attending church from as far back as I remember until I was about 17 years old. The very fact that I considered myself non-religious and even atheist by the time I was 12 years old is not negated by going to church until I was 17.

What your parents and grandparents do is not a reflection of who you are.


Why should the Mormons be allowed to believe otherwise and "baptise" them into their church without my permission? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Who are you - who is anyone? - to decide what someone is allowed to believe, Bbwian?

Your 'jokes' are indistinguishable from your seriously held stupidities.
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Reply #185 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:55pm
 
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You like most Racists are only reacting to the minor, external differences which are immaterial.  The baby would still be a person.  Do not create another Sandra Laing like case.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Oh, my goodness, Brian. I made a passing reference to the topic of cuckoldry and the implications that the betrayed husband would face. But you have just buried your feelings on the subject for the sake of trying to sound woke.

I don't believe anything you say any more on this topic, Brian. A bit of understanding on the topic of genetics would do you more favours than you realise. If all the Africans moved to Europe and all the Europeans moved to Africa, would you then say that after 1000 generations had passed the European descendants would look black African and the African descendants look white European?
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Why should the Mormons be allowed to believe otherwise and "baptise" them into their church without my permission? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was baptised Anglican when I was a baby, without my expressed permission. I just renounced my religion and deny having any affiliation with any religion, ever since I turned 12 years of age.

And who are you to object to what your parents and grandparents legally do? If the Mormons made fraudulent claims against your parents and grandparents, it is up to your relatives affected to make amends. You can feel insulted all you want. But, it really is not your problem.
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Reply #187 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 3:07pm
 
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Do not create another Sandra Laing like case.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy
Another!!! Because there is such a case every, what? 70 years.


Elsewhere in race news

For Russians, Alexander Pushkin inhabits a space beyond taste, where nationalism has given subjective art the patina of fact. He is the undisputed father of their literature in the way Shakespeare is for Brits. His great-grandfather, Ibrahim Petrovich Gannibal, was probably born in what is now Cameroon in 1696. Gannibal was kidnapped as a child and taken to Constantinople, where, in one of those confounding literary footnotes, one of Tolstoy’s ancestors “rescued” him (this is Pushkin’s own word – vïruchiv – in a 1824 note) and presented him to Peter the Great.
Following a military education in France, he rose to the nobility and died a general-in-chief with hundreds of serfs: a black aristocrat with white indentured servants in 18th-century northern Europe.

Systemic wacism.

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Funny to see Brian getting all hot under the collar about the Mormons.  Perhaps he suffers from ecclesiophobia, theophobia, or uranophobia?  Wink

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Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?


I am concerned because it would be done without my permission using data that I can provided for completely different purposes. UnSub.  It would be akin to using my car driver license to determine who I supported in Footbrawl or Thugby.   I support neither sport and I would be very sorry to see my name misused in that way.   What about you?  Would you be happy to see your name used in such a manner?

My family has never been associated with the Church of the Latter-Day Saints.   I don't wish them to make assumptions, without my permission.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was a Broncos fan until 1995 when the North Qld Cowboys made their appearance in the NRL. If people made assumptions that I was still a Broncos supporter to this day because of my initial childhood fan support of the team, then I would consider it their problem, not mine.

My mother is an Anglican and my father was a Methodist. I attending church from as far back as I remember until I was about 17 years old. The very fact that I considered myself non-religious and even atheist by the time I was 12 years old is not negated by going to church until I was 17.

What your parents and grandparents do is not a reflection of who you are.


Why should the Mormons be allowed to believe otherwise and "baptise" them into their church without my permission? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Who are you - who is anyone? - to decide what someone is allowed to believe, Bbwian?

Your 'jokes' are indistinguishable from your seriously held stupidities.


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They can believe what they like about sky fairies, Soren.  They do not have permission to believe they can "baptise" my ancestors without my permission first.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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You like most Racists are only reacting to the minor, external differences which are immaterial.  The baby would still be a person.  Do not create another Sandra Laing like case.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Oh, my goodness, Brian. I made a passing reference to the topic of cuckoldry and the implications that the betrayed husband would face. But you have just buried your feelings on the subject for the sake of trying to sound woke.


My views on this long predate the concept of "wokeness", UnSub.  Time you climbed down off of your Racist hobbyhorse and faced the Science.  Roll Eyes

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I don't believe anything you say any more on this topic, Brian. A bit of understanding on the topic of genetics would do you more favours than you realise. If all the Africans moved to Europe and all the Europeans moved to Africa, would you then say that after 1000 generations had passed the European descendants would look black African and the African descendants look white European?


Genetics would sort them out.  Those that produced less vitamin D, from their skin cells exposure to the suns rays would survived longer and in theory breed more than those that did the reverse.   That is why black people have darker skin than white people.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #191 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 5:22pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 3:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Why should the Mormons be allowed to believe otherwise and "baptise" them into their church without my permission? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was baptised Anglican when I was a baby, without my expressed permission. I just renounced my religion and deny having any affiliation with any religion, ever since I turned 12 years of age.

And who are you to object to what your parents and grandparents legally do? If the Mormons made fraudulent claims against your parents and grandparents, it is up to your relatives affected to make amends. You can feel insulted all you want. But, it really is not your problem.


My parents?  Well, one is deceased and cannot make decisions for himself.  The other is quite well and living and I think any Mormon knocking on her door and be best prepared for her reaction if he told her that she had been "baptised" in their church.  All my grandparents are deceased and cannot be asked what they would have like - either way.   This where the Mormons break down, they believe everybody wants to be "saved".   I doubt my grand or great-great grandparents would want to become Mormons.   Better to leave sleeping dogs lie, I think.  Something neither you or the Mormons understand...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #192 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 5:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 3:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
Do not create another Sandra Laing like case.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy
Another!!! Because there is such a case every, what? 70 years.


Are you denying that it occurred, Soren?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Neferti wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 4:16pm:
Funny to see Brian getting all hot under the collar about the Mormons.  Perhaps he suffers from ecclesiophobia, theophobia, or uranophobia?  Wink


None of the above, Neferti.  You appear to not understand, perhaps deliberately, the falsehood of "baptising" a person, long after they have died...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #194 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 7:19pm
 
Anyway - if we're all the same why did the red-haired white girl with maybe a small percentage come up with that term in the discussion at all?  I guess it's trendy to be a Black Lesbian In A Wheelchair with Limited English - that's four PS promotions without even starting these days .....
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 5:25pm:
Neferti wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 4:16pm:
Funny to see Brian getting all hot under the collar about the Mormons.  Perhaps he suffers from ecclesiophobia, theophobia, or uranophobia?  Wink


None of the above, Neferti.  You appear to not understand, perhaps deliberately, the falsehood of "baptising" a person, long after they have died...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I have just performed a mikvah on you, Bbwian, while you are alive.

You are now a Jewess. Cleansed.

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Reply #196 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 11:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 5:18pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:55pm:
I don't believe anything you say any more on this topic, Brian. A bit of understanding on the topic of genetics would do you more favours than you realise. If all the Africans moved to Europe and all the Europeans moved to Africa, would you then say that after 1000 generations had passed the European descendants would look black African and the African descendants look white European?


Genetics would sort them out.  Those that produced less vitamin D, from their skin cells exposure to the suns rays would survived longer and in theory breed more than those that did the reverse.   That is why black people have darker skin than white people.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yet dark people have made a hash of their lives, societies - while white people made the world as it is with all its comforts and sweetness.



Bbwian - go and live like an abo in 1769. Do it, go on. Abandon all Western, white 'privilege'. Do it.  You won't, nor would any of the vocal abos.
Explain why you wouldn't, spineless, two-faced old liar. Why are you not abandoning your hated Western ways in favour of pure, non-western ways of living?
Sell all your worldly, Western possessions and follow Pascoe and his pure aboriginal ways. Don't let his UTS professorship hold you back from living by your principles, Bbwian.






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Reply #197 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 11:34pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 5:15pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
No.   I don't want to wake up one morning and discover all my ancestors have been "baptised" in the Church of the Latter Day Saints without my permission.   Nor are they very accurated.   They can be up to 20% incorrect if they are compared to other DNA tracing companies.  The reality is, they merely show where one's ancestors came from, not what "race" they were.   Assumptions are made on that basis and that is all they are - assumptions, Neferti.   If you have had your ancestry "traced" by ancestry.com you've wasted your money.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Whilst we are on the subject, why are you concerned about whether your ancestors were Church of Latter Day Saints or not? Or are you worried that ancestry.com were going to give false information for the sake of fraudulently inflating their church numbers?


I am concerned because it would be done without my permission using data that I can provided for completely different purposes. UnSub.  It would be akin to using my car driver license to determine who I supported in Footbrawl or Thugby.   I support neither sport and I would be very sorry to see my name misused in that way.   What about you?  Would you be happy to see your name used in such a manner?

My family has never been associated with the Church of the Latter-Day Saints.   I don't wish them to make assumptions, without my permission.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I was a Broncos fan until 1995 when the North Qld Cowboys made their appearance in the NRL. If people made assumptions that I was still a Broncos supporter to this day because of my initial childhood fan support of the team, then I would consider it their problem, not mine.

My mother is an Anglican and my father was a Methodist. I attending church from as far back as I remember until I was about 17 years old. The very fact that I considered myself non-religious and even atheist by the time I was 12 years old is not negated by going to church until I was 17.

What your parents and grandparents do is not a reflection of who you are.


Why should the Mormons be allowed to believe otherwise and "baptise" them into their church without my permission? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Who are you - who is anyone? - to decide what someone is allowed to believe, Bbwian?

Your 'jokes' are indistinguishable from your seriously held stupidities.


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

They can believe what they like about sky fairies, Soren.  They do not have permission to believe they can "baptise" my ancestors without my permission first.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Who the ffbuggerk are YOU? The permission fairy?




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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #199 - Oct 1st, 2020 at 12:28am
 
Brian, making false claims that someone is a certain religion is an act of religious persecution/discrimination. No church or its adherents have the right to do that to someone else.
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Is Brian still carrying on about the Mormons?  You can get your DNA tested without using Ancestry. 

Why would dead people be worried about being "baptised" any way?

I have not had my DNA done but my sister has.
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 12:09am:


Another win for Soren

When bwyannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn uses his emoji and tsk tsk, its his way of saying "YOU BEAT ME"

And to achieve the "Oh Dearie dearie me" as well means you really have him stumped good.


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Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 11:28pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 5:18pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 2:55pm:
I don't believe anything you say any more on this topic, Brian. A bit of understanding on the topic of genetics would do you more favours than you realise. If all the Africans moved to Europe and all the Europeans moved to Africa, would you then say that after 1000 generations had passed the European descendants would look black African and the African descendants look white European?


Genetics would sort them out.  Those that produced less vitamin D, from their skin cells exposure to the suns rays would survived longer and in theory breed more than those that did the reverse.   That is why black people have darker skin than white people.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yet dark people have made a hash of their lives, societies - while white people made the world as it is with all its comforts and sweetness.



Bbwian - go and live like an abo in 1769. Do it, go on. Abandon all Western, white 'privilege'. Do it.  You won't, nor would any of the vocal abos.
Explain why you wouldn't, spineless, two-faced old liar. Why are you not abandoning your hated Western ways in favour of pure, non-western ways of living?
Sell all your worldly, Western possessions and follow Pascoe and his pure aboriginal ways. Don't let his UTS professorship hold you back from living by your principles, Bbwian.









Never gonna happen.

Bwyannnnnnnnn with his 765 doctorates, man of the world and all round superhuman.

could, in no way, survive for more than an hour in the bush away from his latte.

He is an armchair warrior who has never seen anything but the parks and city.

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And the European was raised up on a Cross to be crucified by the Middle-East. On the hill with Europe was two other being crucified. On one side was Asia, on the other was Africa.
Asia renounced Europe as the 'son of God' (Son of Middle-East) and 'copied' Religion, rather than live the myth. While Africa accepted the love of Europe (Jesus on the hill) and followed Europe's lead... as 'Britain' (unlike Germany, soon France, then Italy) dies and is reborn by it's 'Colonies' in other parts of the world. Germany, France & Italy remain as European. Britain is the crucified sacrifice in servitude to the Religion of the Middle-East as it eats from the Tree of Life (New Worlds) and learns to live 'forever'.
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As for skin colours...

Well, after the 3rd generation I've seen many Australian parents with kids whose 'skin' is adapted to take the sun better than a new Australian from, say - Russia.
It's a physical 'adaption' much like people become barrel chested like the Sherpa in the Himalaya or lung capacities in Free Divers to dive 100m down for 10 mins.
So too do generations of dark skin people have 'changes' after 1-to-many generations living in 'darker' climates.

Yellow, Olive and Brown skins too 'change' of the darker,  as does the Light, Fair, White and Pale skins too. Everything is transient to the environment and circumstances.

Middle-Easterners, Indians and Europeans are all 'Caucasoid' - but there is a 'difference' between the majority Blue Brunette Europeans and the Brown Mid-Easterners. Indians are Black Aryan-Caucasoids. African Negroid and Asian Mongoloid are only different.
...then you have the older races of older Haploid Groups like Tibetans, Aboriginals, Ainu, Xhoi-San and more, scattered around the world. Aboriginals derived from the early manifestation of Caucasoid long before Mid-Easterner Browns and Europeans came into being and definition.

Things always 'change'.
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[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1601026313/163#163 date=1601436517]I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes[/quote

Your complaints about personal attacks don't fool me. You prize your special position as being the Enlightened One. The 'personal attacks' serve only to reaffirm your position as an authority of one.Open your mind up to other peoples' opinions and, undoubtedly the 'attacks' will stop.
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Hammer, until you work out how to use the quote function, I cannot understand what point you're trying to make.  Keep on the argument ad hominem, it just shows you've lost the argument even before you've begun, as have all the Racists (except Rhino).   Rhino at least tried a scientific argument...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:28pm:
I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What does your scientific theory say about cases like this?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1598924672/43#43
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Reply #208 - Oct 1st, 2020 at 2:31pm
 
Ah, yes - 'the science' has become a dirty word and a term of derision after the global warming/climate change debacles... sort of a malleable term to suit the argument....... rather than the argument suiting the terms....

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Frank wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 2:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:28pm:
I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What does your scientific theory say about cases like this?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1598924672/43#43


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Sure your real name is not "Yadda", Soren?  Tsk, tsk, links to what you've claimed in other threads don't cut it.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian, who is this "Soren" you keep referring to? Roll Eyes
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Brian, who is this "Soren" you keep referring to? Roll Eyes


Soren is the username's "Frank's" real name, Neferti.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 6:03pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 2:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 1:28pm:
I note as per usual there is basically no effort to refute the scientific points I have raised.  Instead all the Racists as per usual, resort to attacks on me personally.   Makes me wonder why they bother.  They do not have anything to refute me on the science so they instead attack me personally, engaging in argument ad hominem.   Tsk, tsk.   "Race" is a social construct.  There is nothing Genetically which separates the various "races".   There is in reality only one "race", the human one, which we are all members of.  Racists refuse to admit that, instead choosing to focus on the minor, physical, external differences between humans to differentiate them.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What does your scientific theory say about cases like this?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1598924672/43#43


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Sure your real name is not "Yadda", Soren?  Tsk, tsk, links to what you've claimed in other threads don't cut it.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why doesn't it count? A black Sudanese murders a Swedish teenager, in Sweden, rapes his girlfriend on the bed soaked by the victim's blood - because he accused them of being racists for having a Swedish Democrats cap in their flat - to which he, the African, was invited for an after-party event. They denied being racists but the black monster still killed him and raped her and then grinned and showed the V sign.

Race killing BY an African, and proud of it. How is that irrelevant, Bbwian? Black man is soooo motivated by race that he kills and rapes in the name of racisms. In a country that took his sorry black arse in, gave him a chance to make something of his life, to people who were so non-racists as to invite his primitive, murderous, rapist demon into their flat for an event.

Well, it's not irrelevant - it just doesn't fit your stupid crap, Bbbwian. You are talking nonsense and not even old devil's hoof (Paki Bugger), nor your son, Gweggy McTurdface, are supporting your stupidity. EVEN they are smarter than that - and god knows, they are really stupid and tendentious.

What does DNA science say about cases like this?






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Brian, who is this "Soren" you keep referring to? Roll Eyes


Soren is the username's "Frank's" real name, Neferti.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Frank wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 7:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 6:36pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Brian, who is this "Soren" you keep referring to? Roll Eyes


Soren is the username's "Frank's" real name, Neferti.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Frank, Soren, Schmoren
What's the difference
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and exposes Aunty Bbwian's - karnal's, duck's, sack's Turd's etc, etc
Piss-soaked stupidity.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren is that really your level of thinking, hey?  You can't take the Viking out of the Danes, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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So - which race are we talking about here?  The human race or the Aboriginal race who see themselves as separate from the rest?

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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 1:57pm:
Hammer, until you work out how to use the quote function, I cannot understand what point you're trying to make.  Keep on the argument ad hominem, it just shows you've lost the argument even before you've begun, as have all the Racists (except Rhino).   Rhino at least tried a scientific argument...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Reply #219 - Oct 2nd, 2020 at 3:03pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 8:20am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 1:57pm:
Hammer, until you work out how to use the quote function, I cannot understand what point you're trying to make.  Keep on the argument ad hominem, it just shows you've lost the argument even before you've begun, as have all the Racists (except Rhino).   Rhino at least tried a scientific argument...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Old poofter.


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As usual, unable to marshal a proper argument without resorting to ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk, Hammer, why do you even bother posting at all?  Your education level is so poor, it is complete waste of time and effort responding to you...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #220 - Oct 2nd, 2020 at 3:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 3:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 8:20am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 1:57pm:
Hammer, until you work out how to use the quote function, I cannot understand what point you're trying to make.  Keep on the argument ad hominem, it just shows you've lost the argument even before you've begun, as have all the Racists (except Rhino).   Rhino at least tried a scientific argument...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Old poofter.


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

As usual, unable to marshal a proper argument without resorting to ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk, Hammer, why do you even bother posting at all?  Your education level is so poor, it is complete waste of time and effort responding to you...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Well spotted, Nef! Then again, we should be patient with him. His confused sense of reality, his humourlessness...his dementia. It's not his fault.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 11:30pm:
Well spotted, Nef! Then again, we should be patient with him. His confused sense of reality, his humourlessness...his dementia. It's not his fault.


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No money is involved, dumb ass.
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I would like to see Hammer and Nails get into a debate
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No money is involved, dumb ass.


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Reply #226 - Oct 3rd, 2020 at 1:11am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2020 at 12:12am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 11:30pm:
Well spotted, Nef! Then again, we should be patient with him. His confused sense of reality, his humourlessness...his dementia. It's not his fault.


https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  What  WOFTAM you, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Oo-oooh! Watch the ad hominem......
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Jasin wrote on Oct 3rd, 2020 at 12:52am:
I would like to see Hammer and Nails get into a debate


I'd like to see Je'Sin debate unionism..... properly without empty rhetoric...
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Not even speaking english.

Out of Africa.  Grin
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China, Russia, Saudi Arabia set to join UN Human Rights Council.

Is there anything that is NOT deformed and corrupted by identity politics and 'inclusiveness' and 'diversity'?

Anything?


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Gnads wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 12:45pm:
Bertie wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 12:08pm:


Not even speaking english.

Out of Africa.  Grin

The caring professionals of the Niger, Nigeria, Niggeria.  The days of our Black Lives Mattering.
Or something.



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Not even speaking english.

Out of Africa.  Grin


Lout Of Africa - learn your lines, Jack!
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Gnads wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 12:45pm:
Bertie wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 12:08pm:


Not even speaking english.

Out of Africa.  Grin


Lout Of Africa - learn your lines, Jack!


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Reply #234 - Oct 15th, 2020 at 9:55pm
 
There is no race - except when talking fried chicken. At the Guardian, of course.

Bwian must be really confused.

I've always loved fried chicken. But the racism surrounding it shamed me

It should be a source of pride for black people. It’s complicated, though …

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/oct/13/ive-always-loved-fried-chicken-but-...

Black people?? Pride? Fried chicken pride??

Shocked Shocked

What's next?? White people's pride for creating civilisation for all???

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