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400,000 People Could Wait Months For JobSeeker
Sep 25th, 2020 at 7:46am
 
400,000 Australians could be forced to wait months for JobSeeker payments   Sad





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SEPTEMBER 24, 2020

Workers who lose their jobs as a result of COVID-19 in coming weeks could be forced to wait for months before claiming JobSeeker.   Sad

Tough new rules for when you can claim the dole come into force today in a move that will force thousands to rely on their savings for longer.

An estimated 400,000 workers who face retrenchment in coming months could now be forced to wait up to 12 weeks for unemployment payments under the changes.

A tough new “liquid assets” test to be reintroduced from today is set to force the newly unemployed to live off their savings before they can claim JobSeeker.

The liquid assets test applies to anyone who has more than $5,000 in the bank but it includes redundancy pay that is yet to be received.



Labor’s social services spokeswoman Linda Burney warned the asset test even includes money parents have lent to children.

“So, as of today, the Government is bringing back the Liquid Assets Waiting Period,” Ms Burney said.

“What that really means is if you’ve got, like you said, a redundancy payment, if you’ve accessed your superannuation, and that money is sitting in the bank.

If for example, you might have some shares, or you might have lent some money to your children, you’re waiting for it to be paid back. That’s all considered a liquid asset.”


The liquid assets test was scrapped in March when the COVID-19 pandemic first hit but are being reintroduced from today.

A separate assets test for cars and investment property being re-introduced is also expected to boot 37,000 people off the dole entirely.

There’s serious concerns that workers who access their super early under COVID-19 hardship grounds could be stung by the little-known rule. It means many workers facing redundancy might be better off to keep their super nest egg untouched and simply apply for the dole.

Ms Burney is urging the Morrison Government to reconsider the decision.

“Labor is arguing that this is not the time to bring back that test.The fact is that we are going to see, as I said, an additional 400,000 people on the unemployment queues,” she said.

Ms Burney said workers should not be penalised for having a modest amount of savings when they are losing jobs as a result of government ordered shutdowns.

“You know, your car blows up, your car needs new tyres, your fridge, your fridge packs it in - that is the money that you rely on for emergencies,” she said.   Sad


“And for the Government to expect people to use up all that money before they can access, access JobSeeker is really a false economy.”   Sad

The decision to slash the value of JobSeeker by $300 a week will also create hardship.

“Come the end of this week, people who are on JobSeeker will have their Coronavirus Supplement halved. There will be $300 less in people’s bank accounts come the end of the week,” she said.

“And at the moment, the fact is that between now and Christmas, there will be 400,000 people additional who are on JobSeeker who cannot get a job.”

But Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said the budget would offer more support to help get people into jobs.

“We recognise that people are doing it tough,” he said.

“This money is really important to them. But we also know the best thing we can do to help people who are on JobSeeker is to get them into a job. So you’ll see other initiatives in the budget in two weeks’ time designed to help create more jobs across the economy.”
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Reply #1 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 8:30am
 
The party always had to come to an end

Obviously when a nation decides to hide in it's bedroom
It produces nothing

And so the standard of living will inevitably drop

Is a constant source of amazement to me
That people believe they can
Stay at home on the couch
And that somehow the universe is going to provide them with
Electricity
Three meals a day
The internet
Running hot and cold water
White goods
iPhones
Air conditioning
A functional motor vehicle

Do people not realise how much you have to produce
In order to attain that standard of living

Are people really that naive
That they believe
They have a right to these things
Because
Because
Well just because

tell me what the 5 million Victorians are currently producing
That justifies the standard of living

They are all the same producing nothing
In fact all-they are producing is
A $125 debt for society
Every time they have a covert test


Their industries which did produce things.....
Tourism finished
Higher education finished
Dairy beef and fruit and vegetable production
Sold overseas interests or close down
Sport and the arts demolished

On the output side
Every Victorian is probably entitled to
A mud hut
Which they will have to construct for themselves
And one bowl of gruel per day

So don't be whining about your Centrelink
Things are going to get way way worse
Thanks to the ridiculous decisions that such a mediocre and fearful society has made


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Reply #2 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:45am
 
What an overly simplistic view of the world explained in far too many words.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:09am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:45am:
What an overly simplistic view of the world explained in far too many words.



Sorry
Bojack thinks he is entitled to a miraculous incredible
Standard of living
Which no previous society has ever had
And which is entirely based upon borrowing from other productive countries

He is entitled to this
Because
Because
Well just because

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 11:01am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:09am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:45am:
What an overly simplistic view of the world explained in far too many words.



Sorry
Bojack thinks he is entitled to a miraculous incredible
Standard of living
Which no previous society has ever had
And which is entirely based upon borrowing from other productive countries

He is entitled to this
Because
Because
Well just because

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



I'm working dipshit.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 11:04am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:09am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:45am:
What an overly simplistic view of the world explained in far too many words.



Sorry
Bojack thinks he is entitled to a miraculous incredible
Standard of living
Which no previous society has ever had
And which is entirely based upon borrowing from other productive countries

He is entitled to this
Because
Because
Well just because

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



PLus as well you're the one banging on about how the economy is suffering and we need people to start workjing again. Well what makes the economy tick is people with money b uying  goods  and services. If people don't have enough money to do that, the economy grinds to a halt. That was the whole philosophy being Job Keeper.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 11:45am
 
These arent new rules about liquid assets, from memory the Hawke/Keating government introduced the liquid assets test for unemployment benefits.
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Reply #7 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 12:20pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 11:45am:
These arent new rules about liquid assets, from memory the Hawke/Keating government introduced the liquid assets test for unemployment benefits.

It used to be four weeks. It was the Howard government that increased it to 13 weeks. It is the Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison government that has bills before Parliament that would increase it to 26 weeks.

The threshold for the liquid assets test has hardly increased since 1994, yet the cost of living has doubled since then. If you lose your job, you're expected to live on about $400 a week of your own money.

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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 12:40pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 11:04am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 10:09am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 9:45am:
What an overly simplistic view of the world explained in far too many words.



Sorry
Bojack thinks he is entitled to a miraculous incredible
Standard of living
Which no previous society has ever had
And which is entirely based upon borrowing from other productive countries

He is entitled to this
Because
Because
Well just because

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



PLus as well you're the one banging on about how the economy is suffering and we need people to start workjing again. Well what makes the economy tick is people with money b uying  goods  and services. If people don't have enough money to do that, the economy grinds to a halt. That was the whole philosophy being Job Keeper.


just keep watering that money tree



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