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Reply #15 - Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:26pm
 
Where I live electricity is still delivered with horse and cart.

I suffered with ADSL for years with lightening speeds up to 4mbps.

The copper NBN dragged those speeds right up there to nearly a massive 14mbps.

On a good day, I can now get up to 28mbps.

In other words, it's total shite.

My mate in Finlad gets a minimum 100 mbps .

He pays far less and his mobile phone costs a fraction of what we pay.

Same for friends in the US, Canada, UK and even China, mind you the Chinese internet is restricted somewhat considerably.

We pay far too much for far too little.

Too many public servants own shares in telecommunication businesses, and just like housing they want to maximise their profits at the people's expense.

I envision, in 20 years time, my electricity will be still delivered by horse and cart.

And my internet speed will max out at 50 mbps......maybe.
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Reply #16 - Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:40pm
 
Great article here.


Today, even where there is fibre-to-the-premises, the take-up of plans with download speeds greater than 50 Mbps among those premises is in the mid-teens. There’d be a lot of very expensive and wasteful unused capacity if every premise in the network were connected to fibre.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/the-nbn-upgrade-isn-t-a-backflip-it-s-...
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Reply #17 - Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:48pm
 
That is because speed tiers are still a thing, they would have been removed well before now in the original plan. It is also to do what people expect to pay for internet, about $60/month. With the copper rubbish being such a large part there is a lack of confidence in the network. Cementing that is the fact NBN Co does not provide enough bandwidth for the tiers.

Nah, rubbish, forget it. Hook everyone (bar the remote places) to 1Gpbs symmetric via FTTH. Then charge for data downloaded. It is the data puts the load on the system.

Read the Chattanooga experience.
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Reply #18 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 5:46am
 
Have you activated your NBN connection yet?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #19 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 6:34am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 24th, 2020 at 7:26pm:
Where I live electricity is still delivered with horse and cart.

I suffered with ADSL for years with lightening speeds up to 4mbps.

The copper NBN dragged those speeds right up there to nearly a massive 14mbps.

On a good day, I can now get up to 28mbps.

In other words, it's total shite.

My mate in Finlad gets a minimum 100 mbps .

He pays far less and his mobile phone costs a fraction of what we pay.

Same for friends in the US, Canada, UK and even China, mind you the Chinese internet is restricted somewhat considerably.

We pay far too much for far too little.

Too many public servants own shares in telecommunication businesses, and just like housing they want to maximise their profits at the people's expense.

I envision, in 20 years time, my electricity will be still delivered by horse and cart.

And my internet speed will max out at 50 mbps......maybe.


At one stage, we owned a property in a Latin Amercian country. Had the previous owners rent it from us for a while.

Thing is, the Estate in which the house was built had been set up ffrom the get go with proper pits etc. so that Fibre cabling could be retrofitted easily, when the technology became widely available.

One day, we get an email from the tenants. "The local internet providers are running fibre past the front of the estate. Would you like them to run fibre to the house while they're there? Cost about $USD250"

Hmm...let me think about it.

A couple of days later, 100Mb to the house.

Meanwhile, back in Australia... Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:03pm
 
I don't have any complaints about my NBN connection. I can stream, etc no problem.   What do you want to do with 1gbps?
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Reply #21 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 7:59am
 
Neferti wrote on Sep 25th, 2020 at 4:03pm:
I don't have any complaints about my NBN connection. I can stream, etc no problem.   What do you want to do with 1gbps?


Until you experience super fast internet, you don't know what you are missing.

In Canada I experienced seriously fast internet.
No waiting for a page to load, it was "just there"

No pauses, no booting, no little blue circle.

You could download a full movie, at HD, in about 7 seconds.

Communications between sites was lightning fast.
In Sweden, Finland and the US, all very fast.
In most countries free wifi at restaurants and in shopping centers was fast and secure.

When I came home, it was like going back into the stone age.

We are being sold a dud by dud grubberment hand wringers.

Our lazy, incompetent and greedy grubberment will drip feed us and pocket as much as they can in the process.

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Reply #22 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 11:27am
 
The Coalition believe that building an obsolete network and then having to replace it before it is even finished is good management....This is an admission that the mangled network Abbott and Turnbull threw together is an expensive failure and typical of a party philosophy that puts vested interests before good public policy....The Coalition and it's pathetic supporters should hang their heads in shame over this disgraceful admission of failed policy by the Coalition "again"!!!

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