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Reply #15 - Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:50pm
 
I have read his remarkable trio of books. The 2nd one is titled "Homo Deus,"  not Home Deus.
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Reply #16 - Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:56pm
 
The real question is not how many starved to death, but how many died from illnesses that a better nutritional lifestyle would have prevented or controlled.
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Reply #17 - Sep 20th, 2020 at 11:01pm
 
AiA wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:50pm:
I have read his remarkable trio of books. The 2nd one is titled "Homo Deus,"  not Home Deus.

Do tell, what is your remarkable take.
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Reply #18 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 1:37am
 
Johnnie wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 11:01pm:
AiA wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:50pm:
I have read his remarkable trio of books. The 2nd one is titled "Homo Deus,"  not Home Deus.

Do tell, what is your remarkable take.


There are plenty of fine reviews of the trio of books (which I suspect FD hasn't actually read). My favourite is the final one of the three, "21 Lessons for the 21st century."


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Reply #19 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 9:35am
 
8 Regions of the World: Sahul, Oceania, Namerica, Samerica & Africa, Mid-East, Europe, Asia.

8 Races of the World: White, Grey, Red, Green & Black, Brown, Blue, Yellow.

Each of the 8 Regions has a representation of each of the 8 Races. Each Race doing a different 'role' in each of the 8 Regions.


EQUALITY.
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Reply #20 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:12pm
 
AiA wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 1:37am:
Johnnie wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 11:01pm:
AiA wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:50pm:
I have read his remarkable trio of books. The 2nd one is titled "Homo Deus,"  not Home Deus.

Do tell, what is your remarkable take.


There are plenty of fine reviews of the trio of books (which I suspect FD hasn't actually read). My favourite is the final one of the three, "21 Lessons for the 21st century."



What would be your summary?
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Reply #21 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:29pm
 
Sometimes I feel we've already had too many homos on the dais....
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Reply #22 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:29pm:
Sometimes I feel we've already had too many homos on the dais....

Cheer up Ye, its a whole new world now.
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Reply #23 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:56pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:29pm:
Sometimes I feel we've already had too many homos on the dais....

Cheer up Ye, its a whole new world now.


**blinks twice**   Is it a Brave one?  With Big Brother and all!!
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Reply #24 - Sep 21st, 2020 at 11:33pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Johnnie wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:29pm:
Sometimes I feel we've already had too many homos on the dais....

Cheer up Ye, its a whole new world now.


**blinks twice**   Is it a Brave one?  With Big Brother and all!!

Its a brave new world and we need to adapt face masks and all or get left behind.
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Reply #25 - Sep 22nd, 2020 at 1:52am
 
Johnnie wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 11:33pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:56pm:
Johnnie wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:29pm:
Sometimes I feel we've already had too many homos on the dais....

Cheer up Ye, its a whole new world now.


**blinks twice**   Is it a Brave one?  With Big Brother and all!!

Its a brave new world and we need to adapt face masks and all or get left behind.


Must be a great market for Hannibal Lecter masks....
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Reply #26 - Sep 22nd, 2020 at 2:31am
 
Johnnie wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 10:12pm:
AiA wrote on Sep 21st, 2020 at 1:37am:
Johnnie wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 11:01pm:
AiA wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:50pm:
I have read his remarkable trio of books. The 2nd one is titled "Homo Deus,"  not Home Deus.

Do tell, what is your remarkable take.


There are plenty of fine reviews of the trio of books (which I suspect FD hasn't actually read). My favourite is the final one of the three, "21 Lessons for the 21st century."



What would be your summary?


Forget George Orwell - Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" is our likely future in the next century, at least for the very wealthy. Everyone else will be irrelevant.
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Reply #27 - Oct 3rd, 2020 at 9:08am
 
Johnnie wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 10:38pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 7:17pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 7:07pm:
FD wrote: Harari anthropomorphises broad human institutions, such as religion, science, and modernity, and ascribes them with personal agendas such as the pursuit of power or social order. He occasionally reminds me of Jasin, making these claims without sufficient context.
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Now, now. I can't help it if I have the best strike rate of predictions on this Forum.


Aye, you are right twice a day.

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 7:08pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 20th, 2020 at 6:35pm:
It makes sense with code. Not so sure about DNA, as it is both an algorithm and a chemical compound. You cannot write it with another material, because the chemical reaction and the algorithm are inseparable. Code on the other hand requires you to first break everything down into entirely human constructs (integers, floating point values, logicals etc). Only after this step is completed can the algorithm be treated as platform agnostic.

An algorithm is an exact thing, it's maths, an organism requires chemical and electrical actions and interactions, i would like to see an algorithm take that into account.


DNA is an exact algorithm. At least, when it works.

We could for example create a computer model of DNA, predict all the chemical reactions it would create, etc. If the computer had enough power, we could theoretically create an entirely simulated, yet also real, human.

You could never call DNA an exact algorithm, that would mean there are are no variables.


All Algorithms have variables.

AiA, you are right, I read the book, not the reviews.
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