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Gordon Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 20226 Gordon Gender:	When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:30am Labor says sorry https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-19/victoria-coronavirus-casey-cluster-under-... And Dan won't even fine them https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-australia-live-v...
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Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic
Reply #1 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:35am

There are currently 101 active coronavirus cases in the Casey and Dandenong area
with 34 infections linked to five households in the

Afghan community.

We brought the Afghans here.
We knew that they couldn't speak English.
We knew their only skill was to stick their bums in the air
and pray to Allah.
What did we expect with our complicated lockdown laws?
Did we think they would obey laws they didn't understand?
It's our fault.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8747825/How-new-coronavirus-cluster-thr...

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Gordon Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 20226 Gordon Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:39am Bobby if you want to get around Dictator Dans curfew, just put a tea towel on you head.
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Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic
Reply #3 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:40am

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:30am:

Labor says sorry

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-19/victoria-coronavirus-casey-cluster-under-...

And Dan won't even fine them

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-australia-live-v...

good old double standards Labor.....look at Anna a prime example....she looks after the rich.. Wink

.. while claiming to look after everyone... Grin

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #4 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:41am Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:39am: Bobby if you want to get around Dictator Dans curfew, just put a tea towel on you head. or wear mums nighty..
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Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic
Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:45am

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:30am:

Labor says sorry

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-19/victoria-coronavirus-casey-cluster-under-...

And Dan won't even fine them

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-australia-live-v...

Within non-moslem jurisdictions, followers of ISLAM present themselves as an oppressed, persecuted minority.

Therefore in our 'Progressive' societies, our government authorities become too frightened to hold members of the moslem community to the same standard of behaviour, as other citizens.

As doing that, would be, 'racist' [i.e. 'discriminatory'].

IDENTITY POLITICS.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1600131184/0#0
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.....if i as a citizen, choose to break/transgress the common law [i.e. one law, applying to every citizen],
that act can be expected to attract the lawful attention of police officers.

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Peace, in any society of men ?

What is required to achieve that ?

It isn't rocket science.

Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #6 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:45am Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:39am: Bobby if you want to get around Dictator Dans curfew, just put a tea towel on you head. Now - that's an idea.
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Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic
Reply #7 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 9:41am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:45am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:39am:

Bobby if you want to get around Dictator Dans curfew, just put a tea towel on you head.

Now - that's an idea. Grin

It's true they aren't getting fined. That is extremely annoying but understandable as Dan is right and getting honest answers as to contacts is more important at this stage than collecting a fine.

What worries me more is one of the ministers mentioned the word Afghanis and has since been brought to task and had to apologise.
But it is about time a bit of plain talking was allowed.
This whole virus spread started when muslim guards disregarded the rules in place and celebrated Eid in big family get togethers.

We were told then it was the government's fault as they didn't give grants to get the message across to multicultural communities.
The spread in April was also in Hallam. It's the next suburb to me. The muslims here understand English just fine, or most of them do. there would be someone in every family who does, at any rate.

Now we have a doctor reporting that she is getting cases where the very sick people refuse to be tested for covid as they don't want to cause restrictions on the rest of their family. In other words they know very well they are likely to have covid but don't care if they spread it.

I'll just report one conversation. Prep child, Afghani, talking about big muslim get together
Teacher: Yes, I know of it. Shame you can't have it this year.
Child: Yes we will, mum says she will just shut the curtains.
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The group isn't going to be honest if they think they will cop fines, but no one should get in trouble for pointing out what group is causing the trouble and tell them to lift their game.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47366 At my desk.	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #8 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 9:43am From the ABC article: Quote: Some local community leaders expressed concern the remarks targeted the Afghan community, and warned the comments may make some community members feel "ashamed". Surely feeling a sense of shame at breaking the rules and killing people in the process is a good thing.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10958 Australia Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #9 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 9:45am Lab or Lib, state or federal, Both get their orders from the same source. Lab or Lib created to divide and conquer. Because the people as one would be a fierce some creature to behold.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46487 Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #10 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 11:37am Jews rule USA Moslems rule Australia
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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #11 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 11:40am The usual bigots have been dying to be able to find a way to blame covid-19 on the Muslims Ignore the 26,000 infections Australia has had, just focus on the ones the Muslims might have spread It's fascism 101
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20700 ACT Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #12 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 12:14pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:45am: Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 8:39am: Bobby if you want to get around Dictator Dans curfew, just put a tea towel on you head. Now - that's an idea. Yeah get a David Jones pattern tea towel and change your name to Yasser CrackAFat
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Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic
Reply #13 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 12:17pm

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 9:43am:

From the ABC article:

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Some local community leaders expressed concern the remarks targeted the Afghan community, and warned the comments may make some community members feel "ashamed".

Surely feeling a sense of shame at breaking the rules and killing people in the process is a good thing.

Not so.

Not in moslem culture, not in Arab culture, not in ISLAMIC culture.

SHAME CULTURE VERSUS HONOUR CULTURE

Western culture emphasises the [moral] importance of feeling shame, for wrongdoing.

Western culture emphasises the [moral] importance of accepting personal responsibility.

ISLAMIC culture, does not.

ISLAMIC culture, emphasises the importance ....OF HIDING PERSONAL SHAME.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1326491993/16#16
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IMO, our Western society is superior because it is willing to scrutinise itself, and when necessary, it is willing to be self-critical of shameful aspects of the conduct of some among us.
.....well, that was a predominate aspect of our Western culture [i.e. a willingness to acknowledge 'uncomfortable' truths], before the influence of the 'blinkered' PC brigade!

[in ISLAMIC culture]....exposure is often shameful, and can destroy a persons/family's honour.

Whereas, if you can successfully hide the persistent, and bad conduct of yourself or a family member, your honour and the honour of your family/society remains 'intact'.

WWW search;

shame culture versus honour culture, the arab psyche

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20700 ACT Gender:	Re: When Muslims spread Rona in Vic Reply #14 - Sep 20^th, 2020 at 12:19pm sherri wrote on Sep 20^th, 2020 at 9:41am: That is extremely annoying but understandable as Dan is right and getting honest answers as to contacts is more important at this stage than collecting a fine. Very good point! No point alienating them when we need to know who they have interacted with!
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