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If Capitalism is so great........
Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am
 
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years
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Reply #1 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:33am
 
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Corporate socialism is great, as long as it does not benefit the people it is all ok ?
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Reply #2 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:37am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years


The oligarchy want to manipulate capitalism while the rest of us live under communist laws.

I say bring back Keynesian capitalism and away with this neo-liberalism that is strangling the people in this world.
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Reply #3 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:56am
 
Capitalism: A Love Story   Smiley
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Capitalism: A Love Story is a 2009 American documentary film directed, written by, and starring Michael Moore. The film centers on the late-2000s financial crisis and the recovery stimulus, while putting forward an indictment of the then-current economic order in the United States and of unfettered capitalism in general. Topics covered include Wall Street's "casino mentality", for-profit prisons, Goldman Sachs' influence in Washington, D.C., the poverty-level wages of many workers, the large wave of home foreclosures, corporate-owned life insurance, and the consequences of "runaway greed".[3] The film also features a religious component in which Moore examines whether or not capitalism is a sin and whether Jesus would be a capitalist;[4] this component highlights Moore's belief that evangelical conservatives contradict themselves by supporting free market ideals while professing to be Christians.

The film was widely released to the public in the United States and Canada on October 2, 2009. Reviews were generally positive. It was released on DVD and Blu-ray on March 9, 2010.
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Reply #4 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?


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Reply #5 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?




If you look at the US they recently threw 2 trillion dollars of socialist support to bail out big business and the failed market. They took it from tax payer's money but did virtually nothing for the tax payers - no socialist support for the average person, just corporate socialism.
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Reply #6 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 1:14pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?




If you look at the US they recently threw 2 trillion dollars of socialist support to bail out big business and the failed market. They took it from tax payer's money but did virtually nothing for the tax payers - no socialist support for the average person, just corporate socialism.


That corporatism 101.
Capitalise your profits but socialise your losses
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Reply #7 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 1:17pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?



Its from the money the Govt already holds on behalf of all the people or its printed and all the people (except those bailed out) pay for it after the crisis is over. Either way its the socialist solution that capitalism uses whenever it gets to that time in its cycle when it dies and the rich bring back the corps so that they can remain at the top of the tree.

Dont be fooled, co-operation not competition is what accounts for 99% of human achievement. Its what built the pyramids and sent man to the Moon.
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Reply #8 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 1:26pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 1:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?




If you look at the US they recently threw 2 trillion dollars of socialist support to bail out big business and the failed market. They took it from tax payer's money but did virtually nothing for the tax payers - no socialist support for the average person, just corporate socialism.


That corporatism 101.
Capitalise your profits but socialise your losses


"Corporatism" is the term capitalists use to pretend that what we're going through is not capitalism but an abomination of it. No its not. Its what Capitalism is. Corporatism is spawned by capitalism just as surely as wheat seeds spawn wheat. Its all part of the capitalist growth cycle.
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Reply #9 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 1:52pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:37am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years


The oligarchy want to manipulate capitalism while the rest of us live under communist laws.

I say bring back Keynesian capitalism and away with this neo-liberalism that is strangling the people in this world.


Im not a Communist or Marxist but its funny how everything we don't like equals Communism or Marxism now. 
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Reply #10 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 4:15pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?




If you look at the US they recently threw 2 trillion dollars of socialist support to bail out big business and the failed market. They took it from tax payer's money but did virtually nothing for the tax payers - no socialist support for the average person, just corporate socialism.



Obama and pelosi
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Reply #11 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 5:24pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years


It doesn't need socialism to bail it out. I gets bailouts because politicians want minimal unemployment, so it's to save jobs and keep money circulating. Bailouts can achieve this in a shorter time than waiting for the near collapsed businesses to build up a again


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Reply #12 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 5:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 4:15pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years

Where does this supposed 'socialism' get the bailout money from?




If you look at the US they recently threw 2 trillion dollars of socialist support to bail out big business and the failed market. They took it from tax payer's money but did virtually nothing for the tax payers - no socialist support for the average person, just corporate socialism.



Obama and pelosi

Yeah that's right. That's what we've been saying. You ever heard of Good Cop, Bad Cop? They play for the same team only the Good Cop pretends he's on your side. That's what's happening in every so called Modern Democracy in the developed world. AustralianLabor/UKLabour/Democrats. They just pretend but offer no real alternative. Its all about convincing us we have a choice when we don't.
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Reply #13 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 6:01pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years


It's Keynesianism, not socialism.
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Reply #14 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 6:43pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 6:01pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:19am:
.......why does it need socialism to bail it out every 10 years


It's Keynesianism, not socialism.


I wouldn't have thought so. Keynes would be giving the money to those that would grease the wheels and make the blood of the economy flow. The whole reason we have a market economy is the spending power of the many, not the few, that's what makes it tick over.
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